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Benzo Discussion Vol. 2

Are docs quite reluctant to script lormetazepam? I used to get 14 or 28 7.5 mg zopiclone every two or three months, but it became a bit rubbish & i was sick to death of that infamous foul taste it produces, which i mentioned to my doc who said he'd had the same pills before & agreed it was awful, so he gave me 14 20 mg temazepam.
A few months later i went back & hinted at getting some more temaz but he told me doctors are under pressure not to prescribe it anymore because people sell them, inject them etc. So i asked isn't there any sedatives beside zopiclone & temaz & he sort of avoided the question & gave me a zopiclone script & said 'have a go with these again & if they dont work let me know'.
I was tempted to go back in a couple days & say hell no they suck but he's a fine doc thats been in practice since 1978 so i had the respect not to. But damn, i sure as hell wouldn't mind trying loprazolam or lormetazepam.

I've read a website called 'clinical knowledge summarys' & see that - zopiclone, zolpidem, temazepam, lormetazepam & loprazolam are indicated for insomnia but was suprised it didn't mention nitrazepam as many on here appear to be prescribed them. Is that 'cos you've been getting them on/off for several years?
 
^^Lormetazepam is really rarely prescribed , i had it many years ago when they did the 2mg tabs but i was on aquest to get liquid temazepam at the time , which i did , the doc i had then was so easy to munipulate it was unreal & i really regret it know.
If u check the BNF u will see that nitrazepam is a sleeper , Temazepam is probably one of the hardest to get now cos its a Schedule 3 Controled drug the only benzo in that cat. bar midazolam.
yeah fukin ages i been nitrazepam it i think i was first prescribed it in 2001ish
 
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Give me some halcion, please..

Tranced, i think i know what do U mean..My first chem. drug was flunitrazepam. I got such an euphoria, i could never forget it. And in someway, i connect the sun with the benzo's, esp. flunitrazepam. When the day was shinny, i wanted some rophynols to take, and after 15-20 min that i take them, was feelin a lot of euphoria. But after some times i took a lot, or i took them with booze, waking up the next day and didn't remember anything, i disliked them... The benzo that i wanna get my hands to is triazolam (halcion)..fuckin great, i think:)..


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So if alprazolam's your thang, what do you recommend to ease up on that and get off it? My taper programmes are very slow, bit chaotic due to not knowing whats what really what with my supply (sometimes branded blister sometimes loose etc ock ya know, which doesn't help :|)...Is there anything else I should be considering shifting to to ease this process?

Pretty fed up of my benzo thing, so tedious... :(
 
Switch to diaz, maybe? With a short transitonal period of half your alpraz dose and say 5mg diaz? I don't know. Then taper from there?

I'm bannned from alprazolam for its fiendishness and my tendnecy to act the goat.
 
SamhainGrim said:
Switch to diaz, maybe? With a short transitonal period of half your alpraz dose and say 5mg diaz? I don't know. Then taper from there?

I'm bannned from alprazolam for its fiendishness and my tendnecy to act the goat.
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I'm scared to move over to diaz honestly, cause of it's longlife and my tendency to addiction-weakness, which means I slip - I feel more in control of my alpraz taper cause I'm so familiar with it's shelflife and too used to dealing with it to date so far :( However in RL this is a "management" issue in itself is a major hassle, especially cause I'm working n' what not. You can imagine...

I don't want to swap one thing for another, but want off the alprazolam. All advice welcome.
 
Kate , Switching to diaz and tapering is the easiest way of getting rid of your alprazolam problem. Easy maybe the wrong word.
Although it does have alonger half/life its no way near as addictive as the shorter acting benzo's like alprazolam. apart from going cold i really can't think of a better way to manage this problem.
 
Kate I'm sure you've read this already but just in case :-

http://www.benzo.org.uk/manual/

I've only been at the benzo thing for a couple of years so o great expert and only messed with Diaz in any quantity, but the Diaz taper I did earlier this year wasn't that bad and I came off the booze 2 weeks before I finished the Diaz taper to avoid having to go back onto Librium to come off the booze, which would of kinda defeated the point !.

TBH I'm back on the Diaz but at about 20-30mgs a day, it helps my anxiety so much, I mainly take it in the evening and find it gets me a much better nights sleep than Zopiclone.

When I did the taper I hadn't been using for only about 8-10 weeks but had got to 100-180Mgs (based on fairly good illicit tabs) I drew up my own taper and did it in a month it was a bit tough towards the end especially when I dropped the booze but I wouldn't say it was unbearable I guess the time period I was using like that played a big part as well.

If you write up you plan based on the link and you start to have problems you can always hold the current dose for a extra day or so and then start lowering again, at least with the Diaz there isn't a sudden drop off in effects and WD due to the half life and if you taper down to a few Mgs the final WD should be mild.

Best Wishes
 
Yeah so i saw my Gp today and got switched from 17.5mg of nitrazepam to 2.5 mg of Lormetazepam.
When i proposed it he said "which one is it you want this time !"
Anyhow i'm happy with this as it is a reductiuon of sorts but Nitrazepam just wasn't doing anything after 9 years n iknow for a fact that this will.
I'm not gonna take it every nite though just when really necessary .
I don't get switched for another 2 weeks so i can save 350ml of moggy juice for a rainy day .
A result i think.
 
just had 3mg of Etizolam, gotta say seeing as you can grab it online for so cheap i dont see the need to chase down valium anymore!
 
3 msj's , 2 big bottles of becks and nepali hash and a khole dose of ketamine makes me a very happy wonky sedated chappy :D
 
SamhainGrim said:
A very bruised chappy in the morrow too. Naughty boy. ;)
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not a wobble related breakage yet ill have you know! :) im in bed now so just polishing off a beer and contemplating another v before thos khole kicks into gear, whayta reckin? arm reduction at its best :)
 
Only just got access to benzos, xanax were my first about 5 years ago and did wonders for social anxiety but I overdid it and didn't remember stuff but don't think I did anything stupid. A week's worth of prescribed 5mg valium was amazing a couple of years ago, not in a fun way but it helped me get stuff done in the house while I was withdrawing from antidepressants that made me crazy.

Last year I took phenazepam mixed properly so I could dose it, that really helped me at the time with anxiety and even just getting out the flat but I couldn't have taken it long term as my plans were to return to uni as a mature student and I couldn't have studied on it. I don't have any of the same sources anymore and it's weak as hell from UK legal high sites.

Recently I was prescribed 5mg valium for about a week for anxiety, they were very subtle, I didn't feel anything until I literally felt them wear off. This was just a stop gap while I researched an anti psychotic they wanted to put me on. They work better for me than antidepressants, those came off the table after psychotic, self harming reactions after years of okay use. So if you want off AD's you need to develop bad reactions and have GPs that trust you.

Though I am trying and keeping benzos around, they never get me high so I don't think there'll ever be a problem. I'm thinking of taking xanax for a bit when I have to restart uni for the extra social anxiety fix. We'll see. I don't want to go against what the doctors say but I'm also kinda terrified of going back and starting again.
 
weevil said:
Recently I was prescribed 5mg valium for about a week for anxiety, they were very subtle, I didn't feel anything until I literally felt them wear off. This was just a stop gap while I researched an anti psychotic they wanted to put me on. They work better for me than antidepressants, those came off the table after psychotic, self harming reactions after years of okay use. So if you want off AD's you need to develop bad reactions and have GPs that trust you.
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I got prescribed chlorpromazine for insomnia once. I was a total mess in the surgery, through lack of sleep and general anxiety, and told him that I'd just started a new job (I had) moved out of my long-term girlfriend's place (check) and wanted to hold it together without resorting to alcohol or weed (didn't mention the heroin, but at that time I thought it was completely under control, which it kind of was).

So what does he give me? The fucking chemical cosh, because he has me down as a drug-seeker. I was actually far less able to function when I was on that than I had been when I was getting an hour-or-so of very interrupted 'sleep' a night.

Not even a Z-drug, but an anti-psychotic. All because of a condition that affects my daily life but I've learned to live around. Apparently 'my sort' can't be trusted with potentially addictive drugs.

The same guy put me on tricyclics when I was an obvious suicide risk. Yeah, give a self-harming and very fucked-up young man enough dothiepin to off himself. Nice one.

Ironically that summer I was listening to Nick Drake all the time. Know how Nick Drake died? Beyond irony.

I know being a GP must be difficult and often thankless - I know one and see her occasionally and it sounds stressful to say the least. Worst thing is, she admitted to having had a crush on me through most of her student days. She was beautiful too.

I could've had her feeding me everything under the sun... though of course she wouldn't have done. :)

But yeah - back on topic - you sound like responsible benzo user, weevil. Just try not to make it long-term.
 
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Chlorpromazine for insomnia, that is a wierd call to say the least, as you know i ws on it for a few months and didnt find it made me want sleep at all.

Z drugs dont really work for me either, maybe for the first 2-3 days the there just a waste of time, at least i dont get the nasty taste thing with them, Tried Zopliclone agian recently as they basicalkly insisted I had it with the new AD for a couple of weeks ...i tookm them becuase they wrer there but they are shite

Same as you they wont give me anything like Temaz or Diaz as I've admitted to drug use in the past
 
I use cyamemazine for insomnia when I don't want to take my benzos. It gives me nightmares, but at least I can sleep a little bit.
 
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