Benzo Discussion v4

[Myshkin]

I have no idea why - I don't make them.

Liar.

 

[mattnotrik]

I imagine theres a fair good amount of money in the benzo trade, I mean you can get pure diazepam and alprozam extremely cheap, and in larger bulk I cant imagine even how cheaper it would get. You wouldd need a quality mixer and press for such small amounts, those blister packaging machines cost a few grand but theres no point in them really.

Anyway does anyone go down the route of just buying the powder, id always imagined Its something that wouldnt last very long or, generally be a good idea.

 

[effie]

My only experience with diazepam powder involved myself and Evad dabbing some then sleeping through the last night of Boomtown festival, missing our coach back to Bristol and having to pay £100 for a taxi to take us home (£100 was a bargain actually, the driver wasn't going to take us all the way but that was the only money we had in the world and I started crying in the back of his taxi - he ended up taking us all the way home and letting me smoke his cigarettes in an attempt to get me to stop :D)

I am not a fan of powdered benzos. So much potential for disaster.. Liquid dosing is pretty essential, especially important for alprazolam/etizolam/phenazapam. Powder active in the mg range is probably never going to end well I suppose the main advantage is knowing your dose, if the powder is pure and your liquid dosing skills are accurate.

(Let's stay off the topic of pressing your own benzos, please )

 

[Ismene]

Been using 2-4, 1mg tablets of etizolam over christmas and they've really poisoned my mood. Very depressed with it - tho it's not real depression, it's purely down to the effects of the drug. I stopped 3 days ago and am slowly getting back to normal. I struggle to see how people can stay on them for long and cope with the mental effects.

 

[Dr_Robotnik]

I think that has more to do with supplies from Pakistan being cut off, and I think a lot of the Indian diazepam actually comes from (wait for it) India. Though admittedly I've never seen Indian blues before - they've always been white, whatever brand.

Which is not to say your counterfeiting conpiracy theory isn't plausible at a stretch, but if so, why don't they just put them in Actavis strips and charge three times the price?

Then again, not much surprises me about the illicit benzo trade.

Pretty sure these blue "Dizapam" (its spelt wrong on the scripts) are indian made. The guy who gets me benzos says they're indians. He had that 20mg blues which he reckoned were a uk operation but I was floored off 2 of the 20's. Just a 10mg diaz a smoke of green and a beer is a nice head. Benzos are better with other substances or for sleep heaps of them just make me slurry. That temaz were kind of like that, good hit at the time I guess!

 

[Mailmonkey]

I only had 1 of those indian 10 mg with "Dizapam"

someone sent me a strp of the once, very very nice they were

 

[Dr_Robotnik]

Stong too I had 10 strrips of them, 10 of those green eggs and 10 of those supposedly 20mg vals. Had a bit of a slurry week managed to do all of them bar a strip of the "Dizapams", I've realsed now its better to just eat 1 than try getting mad fucked on benzos just end up forgetting everything/struggling to get things done. Tbh those indian scipts were better value than the temaz or the 20's I thought too

 

[backroll]

When you guys talk about fake strips do they appear as up there?? I got burned just the once with two stips which were both nitraz 5s and 10s.

And the same time I got a fake strip of zepose. Both strips looked similar to above^shown by my lady tribal.

Pukka packaging like with the blistered label and blue in-date stamps, yet a whole strip would do nothing!
Oh well thats what you get for shopping on a bl's instruction,I guess it was only once.

On a side note I have just taken 12mg flubromazepam, long come up so some etizolam to keep me going til then...and work eventually.
still got 4 hours to kick back%)

 

[blondin]

I use to get 10mg white valium from serbia that were ace about 1/2 the size of blues.

 

[Kronos]

aye i remember them, bensedine brand by any chance? 1st lot i got were way over 10mg, second lot way under. afaik theres none from serbia these days. yaay pyraz and etiz powder arrived today, been a small break off benzos but got a few to help with a rattle

 

[Dr_Robotnik]

Ts what happened with msj diazepams I found they used to be really cheap and strong now they're always weak/iffy and not so cheap. The guy who sells them locally seems to always have good blues and other benzos but pricey compared to what I've seen online.

 

[SpecialK_]

Noticed this myself too Robotnik, also a friend of mine who is a bit more into them than me also commented on this. Although I still found them better than the loose D 10s I had a few weeks back, where I could only taste the diaz once they'd either been chewed to the middle or fairly dissolved.

 

[God Almighty]

Can anyone suggest if benzos help with delusions of grandeur?

 

[Mailmonkey]

And the same time I got a fake strip of zepose. Both strips looked similar to above^shown by my lady tribal.

Zepose were iffy,genuine generics, lol , but some batches were reasonable strength,not 10mg, but over 5-7mg....other batches seemed less effective, i stopped buying them, not worth the risk of getting from a bad batch.

 

[eclipsedesign]

I am not a fan of powdered benzos. So much potential for disaster.. Liquid dosing is pretty essential, especially important for alprazolam/etizolam/phenazapam. Powder active in the mg range is probably never going to end well I suppose the main advantage is knowing your dose, if the powder is pure and your liquid dosing skills are accurate.

(Let's stay off the topic of pressing your own benzos, please )

Hah aye. I had powdered alprazolam at one point, caused some pretty big concern with friends as I always ended up overdoing it and having cheeky matchstick head sized dabs which invariably ended up getting consumed whilst drinking alcohol. Having said that I still prefer powdered benzos because of purity and cost really, I just make sure to only get small bits every now and then!

 

[Kronos]

Powdered zopiclone, jesus by far the worst tasting thing i have/will ever taste, did teh trick for insomnia like a dream though

 

[kace]

I fucked up and now will have to go cold turkey/ try and live with benzo withdrawals.

I just took my last doseage of valium- after 3 months of trying to taper, had a bad experience at the G.P- I messed up when they gave me a 2 week supply over Xmas and got through it under 2 weeks, then my GP said the substance misuse team I'm seeing outside said I've been binging on my val as well as other drugs (I'm NOT binging on other drugs ffs).

 

[ColtDan]

Get some etizolam to ease it off x

assuming that would work, its not a benzo but similar

 

[kace]

Problem resolved.

 

[Kronos]

Permanent answer to a temporary problem, get help as soon as you can, just keep trying even if its fucking hard, ther'l be someone who knows their shit somewhere, hopefully the etiz will arrive today and you can try and maintain, or even better if you can convince the doctor that you're clearly tapering too fast and s/he'l slow it down, a decent doctors taper can work well if you stick to it. Last resort? i'm not sure, is there a local addiction service you can contact? CT nearly killed me, and i ended up completely crackers, lost 5 months of my life and i would've loved to take a dirt nap at several points but i'm past it now, and glad i didn't.. just try and hold on. Hope that makes sense, clucking off opiates so my heads scrambled atm