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Stimulants Being turned to a Zombie by recreational ADHD script.

Catsuit_Chastity

Catsuit_Chastity

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I hear people saying that ADHD stimulants makes them more social, more chatty, more motivated. Ritalin and Adderall being the most widely used "party drugs". Are these effects common to just non-ADD'ers?

I'm ADHD-PI predominantly inattentive (not the "hyper type") and I'm asking because my experience is totally different each and every time I used my script recreationally. Be it Generic methylphenidate, Dexedrine, Adderall in the past or my current Novartis brand Ritalin IR.

Anything over will indeed make feel "amped" out, euphoric and feel a phenomenal amount of energy building up BUT it will turn me into a Zombie. That excess of energy gives me a very strong urge to go out ALONE jogging/inline skating/cycling or waking around outside to burn it. I become untalkative, non-participatory, socially awkward. When I return 2 hours later, I'm hyper-focusing, withdrawn, somber, quiet, still, isolated and will seek spending time alone and discover fetishes (BDSM), that otherwise I wouldn't be interested. I would even avoid answering the phone!! If anyone talks to me, I would give him a 1 or 2 word response... and literally avoid him. If I'm stuck into a conversation, my speech will eventually become slurred.

I'm now I'm on a Ritalin IR script 10mg x 3 daily. This morning I plugged as little as 20mg (Rectal ROA)... Escapism felt awesome!! BUT I quickly became untalkative!

It's beyond my comprehension how taking MPH and/or Amphetamines recreationally preps people for clubbing and making them more social.
 
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Sounds like you're taking too much. The focus shouldn't become obsession.

I'm prescribed a relatively small amount, also for ADHD-PI, as well as SAD... I find it helps but it's hardly a miracle cure.
 
I've found that for pure medical use - the lowest effective dose is ALWAYS best.

You minimize the side-effects and while it's not anywhere near as "fun" it's not supposed to be! This medication is prescribed to you in order to TREAT an illness, not be used as a recreational drug. I'm no better than you, I would be lying if I didn't say that I hadn't abused my Adderall prescription. However, with that being said, if you take too much an AMP, the side-effects are god-awful.

You need to take your prescribed dose - not more than your supposed to.
 
Sounds like you're taken to much, when I use to take speed (weak speed) and use it just as a social booster I would be able to talk to people easier and pay attention. But if I took to much I would become to euphoric and get an overwhelming sex drive etc
 
It's beyond my comprehension how taking MPH and/or Amphetamines recreationally preps people for clubbing and making them more social.
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Drugs effect everyone differently, too. Some people get excessively focused on amphetamines, some people get more social.
 
My adderall script (prescribed for ADD) also makes me somewhat asocial, focused on solitary activities, and outwardly zombie like (but nothing too bad). I've never had amphetamine turn me into an exuberant, lovey-dovey guy totally incapable of shutting up as some people seem to experience. In fact, at higher doses, I get dysphoric and anxious, and if combined with caffeine, motor disturbances and a complete inability to focus at all (not even hyperfocus -- just totally scatterbrained) so I obviously had to keep the dose down. I think the way stimulants affect you largely depends on 1) your personality and 2) neurobiological factors outside of your control.

There's nothing wrong with this at all. But if you find the zombie like effects troubling then you should try a different drug/approach towards your condition.
 
I've never had amphetamine turn me into an exuberant, lovey-dovey guy totally incapable of shutting up as some people seem to experience.
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Come to think of it - this is more common with MDMA, or occasionally cocaine, than amphetamine. Typically serotonin releasers are more empathogenic whereas meth/amphetamine are more egocentric. (Of course there are exceptions.)
 
Moredopamine said:
I've never had amphetamine turn me into an exuberant, lovey-dovey guy totally incapable of shutting up as some people seem to experience.
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Take out the "lovey-dovey" and you've got me. I've only used amphetamines for recreational purposes a few times, but each turned me exactly into what you described. Usually I take them to study and make exams, or clean up every inch of my apartment. I just love solving algebra equations or scrub every tile in my shower when I'm on it. I could probably enjoy watching paint dry, if you'd give me a magnifying glass.
However, if I take too much or go on a ~24h binge, the negative side effects start to take over and I can't really focus on anything, or just feel like crap in general. And I can't sleep for like 12 hours after doing my last line, unless I knock myself out with something else. It's funny how the same substance can be so different for everyone.
 
You are indeed taking too much.

If you are doing an activity with a repetitive motion that is unbearable to think about stopping, even if you are about to catch the most major cramp on planet earth, and heating of friction (and you still just don't want to stop)....

...You are taking too much.
 
Adderall made me pretty chatty when I was first prescribed it, but that changes pretty quickly. Now I tend to stay away from recreational and medicinal use just because while yes it does improve my focus, it also strips away most of my personality.
 
Ksa said:
Bad sources. Get over it sir, you were badly informed or did poor research. This could not be further away from the truth.
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No.

You're the one who's incorrect here. People say this all the time. That's what he's referring to. He's not saying there have been studies done that say this, he saying that users of these drugs say that.

I also feel WAY more empathogenic on Amphetamine, then when I'm not. This may be subject to certain people, however, telling him that he has bad information, especially when drugs affect everyone differently, is an idiotic statement.

Ksa said:
MDMA is a party drug sir...bad information.
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Please reread his post. He does not claim that Adderall and Ritalin ARE party drugs. He claims that they are the most widely used "party drugs". Adderall and Ritaline - when taken in the right mindset, can definitely be used as party drugs.

Anyone who says otherwise has never taken these drugs before. ಠ_ಠ
 
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Ksa said:
Bad sources. Get over it sir, you were badly informed or did poor research. This could not be further away from the truth.



MDMA is a party drug sir...bad information.
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To you they may not be 'party' drugs. But for most people they certainly are.
Some people love doing ketamine at parties. I don't however, to me its a psychedelic that deserves respect. For you to say he has bad sources or whatever is very arrogant of you.
 
opiatekrzy said:
speed can cause anti social tendencies, overwhelming anxiety, isolating. its a very nasty drug when used I ur not familiar with it
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True. So I take it I'm not alone. But when, how and perhaps why would one choose Speed since it's known to be nasty?
 
Catsuit_Chastity said:
I hear people saying that ADHD stimulants makes them more social, more chatty, more motivated. Ritalin and Adderall being the most widely used "party drugs". Are these effects common to just non-ADD'ers?
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I was also diagnosed ADHD-PI, and I too got basically nothing recreational from methylphenidate, which I took for about eight years. There are many people who believe that ADHD significantly modifies the natural response to amphetamines. I suggest you stop trying to abuse your medication, and, if you want to get high, find something else. Amphetamine isn't really a habit worth having.
 
You know that your situation isn't that bad.

SSRI's have a somewhat permanent "zombifying" effect on reducing the emotional spectrum of an individual.

Meth/amps (Rx or not) shouldn't cause permanent "zombifying" effects in otherwise mentally/physically healthy people. Just my 2cents. Unless you count dead overdose victims.

P.S. if this post came off as harsh or crude I apologize. I was on Zoloft for a whole year, the majority of the time at 100mg once per day. I don't really have much tact anymore.
 
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