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Being a junkie & Having junkie friends.

JunkieDays

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Does not work.
Or does it?
How many of you have junkie friends or acquaintances who you get along with?

For me, it doesn't work. I'm already an introvert so it's bad enough trying to build a relationship with people.
There's always someone trying to plot and someone getting their shit robbed. It's hectic.
My junkie 'friends' are so fucking needy, always wanting a favor done for them, but give nothing back in return.
Fuck. That. I'm done giving them rides, and catering to their needs.

How about you? What are your junkie friends like?
 
Well, I'll refrain from using the word junkie to describe my opiate/heroin using buddies, as I'm not sure how they'd feel about that, but I do like the subject of this post..

Having friends and/or partner's who use narcotics can be difficult. At times it can be downright fucking horrible, sad, depressing, angering, frustrating etc.. And at other times it can be nice, as you don't have to hide your "big dark secret". On a whole, I've found that I end up getting along really well with most other opiate users, and while these relationships may start on our similar addictions, the good ones turn into something much bigger than that. The main issue that I've run into is, get ready for this.....DRUGS & MONEY!

Now, neither my friends nor I are money loving, materialistic, superficial pricks..quite the opposite actually, IME. However, in order for the friendship to really work, either both people have to be high on something, or both have to be sober. Otherwise, no matter how hard anyone tries, resentments will arise. Another issue I've found usually occurs due to the following situation:


Its friday and youre going down to pick up some Xanax and your friend from the clinic puts down some cash so you can buy 3 for him as well. You say, "okay, no problem", take the money and have no intentions of doing anything but right by your friend. So you end up copping your pills, 3 for you, 3 for him. You call up your friend at the agreed upon time, and tell then that you're at such and such street, and where can they meet up. They tell you that something has come up, and can you hold on to them 'till the next day when you'll be seeing them at the clinic. Once again, you say, "sure no problem", and hold onto the pills with no thoughts of taking any but your own.

Okay, so it's the next day, you've managed to only consume 1 of your Xanax bars, so you got two left for yourself and 3 for your friend. You go to meet up with your friend at the clinic to get medicated and to pass off the benzo's but due to some unforeseen weather/train problems, this becomes impossible. You call/text your friend saying that at the moment it's not going to work for you to meet up there, and that you're fucked 'cause you cant get dosed. Can they come to you? They respond that
No, they have a job to work on, and since they don't have a habit, they can wait until Monday, so just bring them then.

Now things become hard. You've missed your Methadone/suboxone, you're out of cash, you only have one Xanax left and you already took the other one to deal with the rage you feel at being fucked by the train/weather/clinic. Suddenly, the junky in you begins to work his trickery, and you start to think 'Hmm.. He won't mind if I take one of these, after all, I copped them and risked my freedome to get these things, PLUS, Im now missing two doses of methadone and I even tried to get them off of my hands yesterday to avoid this type of thing.

As the weekend passes you run out of your stash and try to make it by on the most humble doses of heroin you can, as well as some not so humble doses of loperamide. However, you're still feeling worse and worse, and those Xanax are starting to look pretty good. You hold out until Sunday morning, but by 12pm, the last shot of dope has worn off, and you're really feeling like crap. Fuck it, I'll pay him back. You dig into your friends stash and take 1 Xanax. A few more hours go by and the short-lived reliefe has worn off, so even though you really don't want to, you take another Xanax. Now there is only one left for your friend. You say to yourself, "okay, I'll just give him this one, and manage to make the money back so I only owe him too. Hell understand." Well you wake up Monday and by this poin, you feel like CRAP! It's the third day without methadone, and while you can finally get dosed again, you can hardly get out of bed. Suddenly holding onto that one last Xanax seems foolish. You stick it under your tongue and think "God I hate myself" and manage to get to the clinic and get dosed, all the while avoiding your friend, who calls you, but you ignore, or send a text that says something like: "Sorry, not feeling well, meet up Tomorow".

You continue to avoid your friend for another day while you try to scramble money together to cop, which is pathetically hard since you don't have a job and sold everything you owned of value from back in the day when you used to inject cocaine. Eventually you can't take this cowardly behaviour so you break down and call/text your friend and explain the situation. They're pissed, but glad your okay. You promise to hook them up in two days with not just 3, but 4 whole bars, and they're cool with that. In the end, because youre a good person, you stick to your word, but have suffered greatly due to your need and lack, of drugs and money.
 
^ that story is such a good insight into the "inner addict". I don't do h but I used to smoke ice and I know the feeling when that plan starts forming in your head " I just need to sell this phone, make 50 bucks, use 40 on a sack, save 10 to pay back so and so. 24-48 hrs later and I'm coming down. I have 10 bucks still, will meet so and so tmmro. Well I feel like shit and my other friends selling xanies... *starts calling friend with xanies*.

Yea junkie friends suck. They can't pay you back and they will 'unintentionally' fuck you over.
 
Quite a few since I met most (if not all) of them before we started using. We're a pretty close bunch of friends.
 
Junky friendships are like a shot, they're awesome, intense, relieving but they inevitably fade away, usually rather quickly.

I've had some great 'junky' friends, but eventually both out habits grew and the only time we saw each other was to cop or because someone needed a favor : / its actually pretty sad
 
Junky friendships are like a shot, they're awesome, intense, relieving but they inevitably fade away, usually rather quickly.

I've had some great 'junky' friends, but eventually both out habits grew and the only time we saw each other was to cop or because someone needed a favor : / its actually pretty sad
+1. I had some really close junky friends during my use but inevitably they fucked me over or I fucked them over. Heroin was the only true friend I had at the time.
 
What yall are describing isnt just junkies. Its people in general. IME most people are douchebags that will fuck you over. Any drug doesnt matter what it is. The ones that pull through and hook you up and stick to their word are the ones you gotta stick with. Its like finding a needle in the haystack but id rather know i can count on one person for sure than gamble for 10 others that might come up short.
 
I know the relationship I have with my junkie friend isn't that real. We just help each other with drugs or rides. Hes in the game a lot deeper than me so he is willing to throw more at me (free shit or deals in my favor) than I am at him, though I do help him out a lot when I should be helping myself. When he first injected me with H cuz I was interested in going towards IV (I couldn't get a good high sniffing the tar here that he'd pay me for my driving/etc.), our relationship did turn into something more real than just drugs. I find injecting someone else a every intimate act, in a very non sexual way, but it does really do something to the relationship.
 
when I was going through my oxy and morphine days I was a real dick to a lot of people(i actually made few girls cry at the bar when in withdrawals). I'd steal scam and cram. but all my friends were on shit too so it worked out fine. i got over the opiates, but i still buy some funs when it's a good deal and haven't done any in a min. they never care about you just like I never cared about them. I wanted drugs and i guess they wanted friends(they had good connects and i'm paranoid, frat boys lol), good trade off I guess. don't ever see them anymore. not like I remember those days anyways. that's not just junkies tho, that's druggies. people want a fix, and they'll pull out every tool in the shed to fix it.

on a lighter note, learning to bum rides like a champ is a valuable skill set lol.
 
Junkies don't have friends who aren't junkies...that's the hardest part about being clean, l don't have anymore friends. That's why lm on here lol! There is nothing fun about it. A junky only cares about one thing.
 
Oh yeah what I forgot to mention, but cloudy's post reminded me of;
there are the friends I had when I started using drugs (they pretty much all do now.) and there's some I made during my period of use. There are those (from both groups..) that I would do anything (within reason) for and vice versa. Then there's a few of who I know our friendship is based solely on using, scoring and all that shit. It's just different kinds of friendship but if it's the latter kind of friendship, I don't want/try to hide that it's just about the drugs and the company and not the person.

I like to know to what extent I can count on people, I'm sure everyone does and that's why I try to be there as much as I can for my "real" friends. Sometimes people are gonna let you down that's the way it is, but I've learned never to expect too much. That way you don't feel let down so much, and you will also be surprised in a good way more often rather than let down. ;)
 
I don't feel comfortable hanging with people who don't use drugs. Basically, most people that do some sort of drug, like to talk about it, including me. And most of the time, when you mention something like that to someone that doesn't use anything, you just get weird looks. Only God can judge me and he probably doesn't exist. Don't even know how many childhood friends I ignored just because of that, I don't feel comfortable around them anymore.

Most people who don't do/never did drugs annoy the fuck out of me, because they're brainwashed, judgmental and ignorant. Can't have friends like that.
 
My co worker and I became friends but only later found out we both smoke weed and do pills/dope. She's in her 30s and her husband is 50 something but they're chill as hell. Not even strungout and they've been using for years. I'm about to walk to her house to do dope at ten.... however there are days where we don't use and she cooks for me send watch Netflix....or we just smoke weed.

Now this is a rarity though but I don't consider most people I do drugs with my friends.
 
Fuck, yes. Needy is the right word. I also have my moments of need, but that doesn't mean I have to bring it into every single interaction I ever have with anyone. And it's not even like just their worst moments, or once in a day, or the ones they don't give a fuck about. For too many it just seems like a way of life, trying to get as much as possible out of everyone, as many favours as they can from everyone. And it's not just anyone, when the situation strikes them it's like all the fucking time, like a survival strategy they worked out a long time ago. It's like at one of their lowest points when they were deadly desperate they found something that saved them. And instead of thinking, "Whew, that was really lucky, I better save those pennies for a rainy day and look out to keep someone like that", oh noo, we won't have any of that.

Ohh no, it's just use and abuse, as much as possible and as worse as possible. Until someone are used up and they have to start out all over again. Because, hey, some new sucker will always come along, right? And they will. At least if they live in a big enough place, and until they become too old and unattractive. The attractive ones are definitely the worst, as they use their charms to trade on, and someone ne to use WILL always come along. And most seems worse to their own sex than the opposite. I guess it's just that bit of extra fondness they still harbour for the opposite sex, all the extra they're likely to be able to get from them, and the way they're willing to walk an extra mile for them as compared to someone of just their own sex.

I mean, if I was a guy, no matter how much I loved a male friend, I'd still have to concede I can't see myself sucking his cock or whatever (though many obviously do - and, more of it, please). Actually, rephrase that - if I was a guy I can totally see myself being gay, one of the reason I'm convinced it couldn't work.
 
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I have an attractive female friend whose a junkie. The things guys do for her are stupid, she uses everyone and they just accept it. Some guys literally give her money for no reason other then she might sleep with them or throw them extra affection, it's stupid. She tries to pull that shit on me and gets pissed when I dont or I force her to pay me back. We use to be friend friends like 15 years go but that's long since passed. The classic using junkie in all the meanings of the term.

I don't give girls things for free they have always paid and will always pay if not more then my male friends. Some girls think they are just suppose to get shit for free i can not stand that. The only girl who gets stuff for free is my girlfriend but even then we split it when we can because we share eachothers money and means.
 
After I got sober and ditched my junkie friends and the non-junkie codependent types that hang around addicts I noticed that my social life improved exponentially.
 
I have an attractive female friend whose a junkie. The things guys do for her are stupid, she uses everyone and they just accept it. Some guys literally give her money for no reason other then she might sleep with them or throw them extra affection, it's stupid. She tries to pull that shit on me and gets pissed when I dont or I force her to pay me back. We use to be friend friends like 15 years go but that's long since passed. The classic using junkie in all the meanings of the term.

So true, it annoys me to no end when we're hanging out and a friend is offering some chick he hardly knows tons of drugs, money and whatnot for free just because it's a she. I mean, there are other, better ways of showing you're interested in a girl and seducing her than throwing money/drugs at her. Being generous is cool and all, but it's obvious when someone's doing it for other reasons than simply being friendly or helping someone out. (Atleast it's easy to notice this when it's someone you know pretty well.) I do share drugs with 'strangers'/new acquaintances, but I wouldn't give anyone any special treatment because of the gender.

Obviously I don't mind someone accepting a free pill, line or hit of some drug, who wouldn't accept? But quite a few people tend to exploit it as much as they can once they know someone is 'vulnerable' to this kind of thing. I really can't stand that type of behaviour, but some guys just seem blind to it. That, or they simply refuse to see it.

I don't mean I expect these people to give me drugs/money/whatever instead because we're friends (and have probably done favors for eachother already) and she's virtually a stranger. Not at all. I'd simply prefer it if they didn't partake in "buying" attention from a girl because of her looks, meanwhile not knowing what she's like at all yet.
 
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