Hello, I came up with a plan to quit heroin that worked really well. I saved up as much money as I could for a year and got my wife and myself tickets to Mexico. There is no heroin available for consumption here. I brought 10 Suboxone strips with me but have only taken 3 since ive been here and have had very little withdrawl. The problem I have is that I know in 3 weeks im going back to Seattle and im probably going to score. I wish I could stay here forever. Im paying about 150 $ a month for an appt just as nice as the one ive got back home, and the suns always out and birds a chirping, and the fruit and vegetables are so fresh and cheap no wonder there are no drugs readily available. I dont get the deppression that makes me want to use like I do in the states. Theres no way I could make a living as a roofer here (my job in Seattle) so permant living is out for now. Mabey Someday I can bring people down and help them get clean, who know, I know ill be using in a few weeks time but this year im going to work harder and try to come for 6 months next year, see if I can make it stick. Any suggestions? Thank you.
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been off heroin for 5 weeks
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Black Rabbit of Inle
Bluelight Crew
Hi pete, congrats on 5 weeks clean. That's a huge achievement in itself. Getting yourself out of familiar surroundings was the best thing you could have done, but when you go back it will be hard.
Try to keep yourself occupied when you return home again, and hold onto the knowledge that you have already done the hard part and as easy as you're finding it now to stay clean, that can continue when you're back too. Keep up the healthy eating, exercise and occupy your mind.
Is/was you wife a user too? Having her support will be immensely helpful.
Try to keep yourself occupied when you return home again, and hold onto the knowledge that you have already done the hard part and as easy as you're finding it now to stay clean, that can continue when you're back too. Keep up the healthy eating, exercise and occupy your mind.
Is/was you wife a user too? Having her support will be immensely helpful.
caseface99
Bluelight Crew
Congrats pete that's awesome! I know right now you're thinking you will probably relapse but that's not necessarily true!
"Whether you think you can or think you can't, you're right." - Henry Ford
And it's true, if you are thinking you will definitely relapse then chances are you will. But it doesn't have to be that way!
Getting out of your situation to get clean is great, you've gotten through the first stage. The issue though, is "wherever you go, there you are" - you're the problem, not the drugs. In my experience the biggest thing that has helped me stay clean is doing things that help change my way of thinking. Writing a lot about things I have done, things that have happened to me, letting things from the past be in the past, etc. Examining situations in my life and how they have caused me to think, feel, and react certain ways. Looking closely at the unwanted aspects of my personality and making an effort to change. The point though is that you can't fix your fucked up way of thinking with your fucked up way of thinking. Act your way to right thinking. Figure out a daily routine of things you can do to start bettering yourself and stay clean, and you may just have a shot at staying off the dope.
If you do end up using though, PLEASE be careful! The majority of overdoses happen on a relapse. Happened to somebody I know just a few months ago that relapse and didn't make it.
Anyway, I wish you the best and congrats on making it this far!!
"Whether you think you can or think you can't, you're right." - Henry Ford
And it's true, if you are thinking you will definitely relapse then chances are you will. But it doesn't have to be that way!
Getting out of your situation to get clean is great, you've gotten through the first stage. The issue though, is "wherever you go, there you are" - you're the problem, not the drugs. In my experience the biggest thing that has helped me stay clean is doing things that help change my way of thinking. Writing a lot about things I have done, things that have happened to me, letting things from the past be in the past, etc. Examining situations in my life and how they have caused me to think, feel, and react certain ways. Looking closely at the unwanted aspects of my personality and making an effort to change. The point though is that you can't fix your fucked up way of thinking with your fucked up way of thinking. Act your way to right thinking. Figure out a daily routine of things you can do to start bettering yourself and stay clean, and you may just have a shot at staying off the dope.
If you do end up using though, PLEASE be careful! The majority of overdoses happen on a relapse. Happened to somebody I know just a few months ago that relapse and didn't make it.
Anyway, I wish you the best and congrats on making it this far!!
Black Rabbit, my wife has never used any drug at all except caffeine and the like, she is great support and truly is my hero. (Not becuase she doesn't use).
Caseface deffenatly a perspective I hadnt thought of. Thank you both for the encourgment, I really do appreciate it. Running around looking for drugs has cost me so much time these last few years, and even though I feel healthy it feels like having all these hardened veins is going to bite me in the ass one day. I really want to quit permanantly, I just know its going to be hard in the familiar place, but ive got some ideas to keep myself busy. Thanks again and have a great day!
Caseface deffenatly a perspective I hadnt thought of. Thank you both for the encourgment, I really do appreciate it. Running around looking for drugs has cost me so much time these last few years, and even though I feel healthy it feels like having all these hardened veins is going to bite me in the ass one day. I really want to quit permanantly, I just know its going to be hard in the familiar place, but ive got some ideas to keep myself busy. Thanks again and have a great day!
caseface99
Bluelight Crew
Let us know how things go once you return get back home! Best of luck.
when you get back why not have a plan in place that will allow you to work towards a profesion that will allow you to live back down in mexico.. I know in the turist areas you will havve more access to drugs but why not get you master diver certification for scuba dicing and then you could make a living down there taking people around diving.. if that doesn't sound appealing then maybe think of how you can make a living down there doing something you will enjoy. There are so many places that are so amazing down in south/central america and the caribbean that are so damn nice.. it really is only a short amount of time until I get down there.. I cant wait.. I just have to figure out how to get my ex hooked on the idea. she would love it and since she runs her own show at home for work she could do it easily. Oh well I will figure it out.. I all for some chill island living.. just bust on out for hurricane season and hit the midwest for family..
Shit sorry I got of on a day dream there.. but as I have spent some time in a life style like that Im jonesing and know where you are coming from.. but if you are returning to a life that will make you so miserable that you will want to use and actually do it I would make the changes to your life to get out of it and I would have a plan that you can hold onto when the reality of living a life you dont love sets back in.. soak up some of that sun and fresh produce for me!!
Shit sorry I got of on a day dream there.. but as I have spent some time in a life style like that Im jonesing and know where you are coming from.. but if you are returning to a life that will make you so miserable that you will want to use and actually do it I would make the changes to your life to get out of it and I would have a plan that you can hold onto when the reality of living a life you dont love sets back in.. soak up some of that sun and fresh produce for me!!
Trust me never sick anymore, im trying hard to come up with ideas to make a living here and ill be coming back on a permanant basis, I just have to figure it out. Ive been roofing so long its hard for me to think of anything else as work, but im looking into some taxis here, the conession is really expensive, but the owners do pretty well, if they rent them out to a taxi driver. I dont go back to the rain and gloom of Seattle till Feb 12, so ive got a bit more to enjoy. Im going to try to stay focused on thatwhen I get home, with what I spend a year on dope, I could probly live a middle class life for a year here.. thanks for your encourgment, ill let you guys know how it goes when I get home.
teological
Bluelighter
Good luck with your quest Pete and well done so far. Once you get back, try and stick to a set out plan that you presumably set up whilst you are in Mexico!
Anyway, sorry to derail the thread but I am also curious...do not see any Cartels around? Have you seen any violence? Are you not scared of being kidnapped by Cartels?
I have always wanted to visit Mexico, but these problems scare me.
Anyway, sorry to derail the thread but I am also curious...do not see any Cartels around? Have you seen any violence? Are you not scared of being kidnapped by Cartels?
I have always wanted to visit Mexico, but these problems scare me.
Teological, I have been coming here for years. Its all media hype, violence happens but very rarely outside of the cartels and police. I am in what is considerd a very dangerous place ( Temixco, Morelos) and I feel very safe. Mexicans in general are very kind and genorous people. Also its almost unheard of for white or black Americans to get bothered at all. There is a fairly large expat community here, mostly retireees who dont have any problems at all.If you get a chance to come to Mexico dont hessitate becuase of the violence you probably wont see any, Ive been to juarez and tijuana in the last year also, I didnt see any violence there either but border towns are not the same as interior or coastal Mexico. Thanks for the reply, have a great day!
caseface99
Bluelight Crew
How's it going, pete? Still clean down there?
Any plans for staying clean once you return to the states?
Any plans for staying clean once you return to the states?
Caseface, there is no chance of me not being clean down here, there are no drugs for consumption here, exept pot, and I only use Heroin., I'm going to try and put all my energy into my buisness when I get back to Seattle, one problem is my main employee is also my main using partner, but I'm going to let him no that the worksite is a heroin free site.There is a lot of reminders of heroin use in Seattle, I have a pretty busy roofing company there so cant just pull the pin and leave it right now. I' not going to make any promises but when I get back ill have 2 months clean, which is a long time for me., you guys have inspired me to try to make it stick. Thank you.
caseface99
Bluelight Crew
Do your best pete. and remember, if you do relapse BE CAREFUL! I already said it but I'll say it again - The Majority of heroin overdoses are on a relapse! Not only is you're tolerance going to be gone, but you could very well get heroin that looks EXACTLY the same as what you had been doing, even if it's really twice as potent. So start with specks, literally specks - and work your way up. I generally used a mg scale, especially if i knew it was high quality. (used a mg scale.. no need in 8 months)
I'm not endorsing relapse, just want to stress how careful you need to be if you choose to use.
I'm not endorsing relapse, just want to stress how careful you need to be if you choose to use.
caseface99
Bluelight Crew
If you aren't on any maintenance meds then yeah, treat it like you have zero tolerance. Even on maintenance meds there is a difference in tolerance - however if i recall you are totally opioid free. Not trying to scare you or anything, it's just a very real thing. People die everyday from heroin relapses. Trust me, I've been there and relapsed on heroin after a couples months clean more than once... And honestly the first couple times i got extremely lucky because I wasn't as careful as I should have been. I woke up alone behind some bushes by a highway onramp one time after relapsing and falling out. If you have ever fixed in a spot widely used by addicts to shoot up, then you know how shitty of a place that would have been for me to die. I got lucky, many people don't. Literally, specks. Good heroin = needing mere milligrams without a tolerance. Ideally you won't relapse, but anyway, just want to make sure you are as safe as possible if you do.
Done beating this dead horse. Good luck and stay safe!
Done beating this dead horse. Good luck and stay safe!
Is there a way that you can have people work for you and just deposit the money from each job into your bank account? That way you won't have have come back? I live in Seattle also and my dad lived in tepic, Mexico for about 5 years. He moved back to the states a few years ago. I wanted to move there so bad!!
herbavore
Bluelight Crew
Pete, I can really see how you feel it is inevitable that once you get home you will go back to using but you've got to know it isn't. Having your employee be your main using partner makes you pretty vulnerable. Any way that you could go home and say, "let's do this together?"
Are you bilingual? If you are, what about checking out some of the Ibogaine clinics n Mexico? Maybe you could get a job helping people that want to come from the US. and be in a place where your own recovery could be supported My experience in South America, and I'm sure it is the same in Mexico, is that if you are fluent in both languages you can find all kinds of work.
P.S. Me amo Mexico!
Are you bilingual? If you are, what about checking out some of the Ibogaine clinics n Mexico? Maybe you could get a job helping people that want to come from the US. and be in a place where your own recovery could be supported My experience in South America, and I'm sure it is the same in Mexico, is that if you are fluent in both languages you can find all kinds of work.
P.S. Me amo Mexico!
Dizzy45, it would take some time to get my buisness set up that way as its only me and one helper at the moment. Herbavorei would like to help my helper get clean, I know he wants to but there is a lot of opportunities to use there. Also I am pretty fluent in spanish, I looked into an ibogain treatment here but it was just 2 much money. That would be great to find work where I could help other people out and myself at the same time. Ill look into it a bit more, thanks for the suggestion.