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Whipped Dream said:
Alright, I'll give ya'll something to ponder over:

I've always taken issue with the opioid conversion chart. How can 30mg Morphine = 30mg Heroin = 30mg Hydrocodone????

Someone enlighten me. Isn't it more like this: Hydrocodone<Morphine<Heroin?
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Hydrocodone, morphine and heroin will be equianalgesic ORALLY, that doesn't exactly mean they're all equivalent. This is mostly because morphine and heroin have terrible oral BA's and as effie mentioned, the latter undergoes extensive first-pass metabolism. If you compared oral hydrocodone to intravenous morphine and heroin, it'd be 30mg:10mg:5mg and that is being conservative for the last 2.

Vicodin/hydrocodone gets a bad wrap as being 'weak' but as far as painkilling and recreation go, it's underestimated. People who have a very high tolerance from other opioids just won't be able to get as much out of them. Conversely, morphine and heroin are wildly stigmatized so they are perceived to be far worse or far more potent depending on perspective by people unfamiliar with them. In reality, the gap between the effects of heroin and hydrocodone in equal doses is much smaller than the uninitiated would think. Heroin is still better though. After all, it's heroin =D

To put it into perspective, a standard 100mg bag/cap/stamp of heroin if it's only 33% active (2/3 cut) used intravenously will still be equivalent to about 200mg oral hydrocodone and at least in my area, would be ~1/10th the price.
 
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Whipped Dream said:
Who wants to bet Cane is krashed out after 45 hours of being strung out on coke?
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I wasn't strung out - that's the weird part. I did 2 lines wed night around 10 and 2 lines thursday night around 9 but couldn't sleep at all either night. I think it had to have been cut. I finally did pass out for a few hours around 6am though thank god. I still have most of my bag but now I'm worried it'll keep me up way too long. It is still pretty good coke though so I might just have to get some sedatives for when I want to sleep.
 
NeighborhoodThreat said:
Went to the store last night and bought a large amount of beer, bottled water and other food items as well)
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In the correct order n all. Fair play :)

Cane2theLeft said:
I wasn't strung out - that's the weird part. I did 2 lines wed night around 10 and 2 lines thursday night around 9 but couldn't sleep at all either night. I think it had to have been cut. I finally did pass out for a few hours around 6am though thank god. I still have most of my bag but now I'm worried it'll keep me up way too long. It is still pretty good coke though so I might just have to get some sedatives for when I want to sleep.
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If its kept you awake that long from just 4 lines I dont think thats coke mate. Or not totally coke at least.
 
Indeed sir. In a true disaster situation (what the U.S. news media says will happen), having things like beer and cigarettes mean having bartering power.
 
I know what you mean. Obama has warned for something biblical. It really cant be that bad can it? Suppose we'll know this time tommorrow. How's the ark coming? :)
 
We've got rain here, I think I might have heard thunder earlier.. doesn't quite match up to a hurricane though, the UK has such wimpy weather. I'm still wearing my wellies and raincoat and going out for rum so I can drink hot toddies with rum and chai tea and listen to the rain on my skylights and feel all snug though :)

Actually, that sounds like a nice eve, was feeling a bit bleugh before :)
 
You need hot whiskey ef. 1/3 whiskey 2/3 water, 2 sugars and a slice of lemon.

Need good Irish whiskey for them though ;)

They'll also make you feel fantastic the next day in the pub no matter how much md or coke or amph you've destroyed yourself with the night before. Wouldn't mind one now :)
 
ChainsawWilliams said:
If its kept you awake that long from just 4 lines I dont think thats coke mate. Or not totally coke at least.
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That's what I'm thinking. There definitely is coke in it and if anything, more than average because I know the taste, local anesthetic effect and feel and there is still a noticeable crash after 45-60 min that I always get with coke but the stimulation just seems to persist. I am not really into stimulants so I can't even speculate what it might be but there's definitely something different about this compared to what I normally get.

Anyway, I have some kratom extract on the way and I'm really hoping it arrives tonight because I haven't had anything opiodergic in far too long. The vendor screwed up and put my address as Alabama but the zip code and rest of the address was right so I hope that doesn't delay it. I mean really, Alabama? He must think I'm a psychopath!
 
'I know what you mean. Obama has warned for something biblical. It really cant be that bad can it? Suppose we'll know this time tommorrow. How's the ark coming? '

Yep everyones on board except Mrs Sloth and Mrs Snail. God said ' if the lazy mares don't get a move on I'm going to leave them behind with the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and Jeremy Kyle.'
 
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ChainsawWilliams said:
You need hot whiskey ef. 1/3 whiskey 2/3 water, 2 sugars and a slice of lemon.

Need good Irish whiskey for them though ;)

They'll also make you feel fantastic the next day in the pub no matter how much md or coke or amph you've destroyed yourself with the night before. Wouldn't mind one now :)
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I've got Kona coffee mixed with Tullamore Dew Irish Whiskey, a bit of milk and some sugar. Drinking it now. Feels great.

I love me an Irish Coffee.
 
Hot or with coffee is the only way to drink tullamore dew. On its own its not really nice compared to other whiskeys. The 18 year old Jameson is like drinking milk.

I am more of a scotch man though. Give me Glenmorangie or Glenlivet any day.

Whipped Dream said:
Ahhhhhh.....50/5000mg Hydrocodone CWE'd down to a tasty little dosage....gulp!


See you guys next week! =D
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ooo I want some.... Have fun :)
 
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