BDB - First Experience - Journey in the Minds Eye

[chemical messiah]

BDB First Experience – Journey In The Minds Eye
A BDB excursion

2-AMINO-1-(3,4-METHYLENEDIOXYPHENYL)BUTANE; 1-(1,3-BENZODIOXOL-5-YL)-2-BUTANAMINE

Had the good fortune to experiment with BDB last weekend. Took 200mg and felt a surge around 45min into it. I was reminded of methylone at first but there was something else here that was surprising. The happiness and good feelings of methylone were present but I got into much more of a trippy headspace not unlike MDA. I noticed a lot of color enhancement and time dilation. I was in a nightclub where there was dancing but felt no urge to dance even though there was a good amount of stimulation. I began having difficulty concentrating on the activity around me so I sat back on a nice leather couch. It was becoming more intense. For a while, it felt like I was somewhere else. I was traveling somewhere distant in my minds eye. It was like my mind was shutting out the inflow of my immediate surroundings, the music, people, lights and pushing it to the background and taking me somewhere else. I didn't try to resist this and let it take me wherever it would lead. I began to recall the events that happened earlier that day and in my minds eye I was reliving them but from a perspective of a independent observer. I then recalled a recent dream I had and was reliving that experience and it was a very pleasant one. I don't remember all the details or how exactly long this lasted.
After coming out of the minds eye view, I thought this was probably not the ideal environment for this so I left the club and took the booster dose of 50mg somewhere around the 2 hour mark which brought me to a plateau which lasted for about 4 hours.
I got the overwhelming feeling that everything before me, surrounding me, past and present was "right" and there the universe was in harmony. The future was “now”, in the present and there were no worries over the path I was on.

I took a walk around a lake near my apartment and the cool swift breeze blowing on my face felt wonderful. As I was watching the waves on the water and just hearing the sound of the waves breaking on the shore I could feel calm waves of euphoria washing over me, over and over pushing me further into a blissful consciousness. The stars looked much brighter and the night sky was just serene. The experience brought me closer to my inner thoughts and at the same time closer to the universe around me. I thought the earth to be a living being, nuturing her inhabitants with food, water and energy. When I try BDB again it will be outdoors for sure because I felt this was the place to bring out the best in what she had to offer. There was a strong desire for closeness and communication. I felt the trip would have been magnified if I had tripped with my girlfriend, but sadly she doesn't approve of my experimentations
I felt fine the next day. Conclusion: BDB has similarities with methylone but I thought it was much trippier. It has the special magic of MDA/MDMA but seemed far gentler on the body without the severe depression the next day. Can't wait for the next journey

 

[Beenhead]

I changed the title to conform to the rules, We do like more details though!

 

[egor]

Please do elaborate a bit on the details, they are a bit scarce on this substance

 

[chemical messiah]

Ok I edited, expanded my report above and decided to submit to Erowid.

 

[astenu]

Sounds like a good time. I do wish this one was easier to find these days.

 

[djfriendly]

BDB is certainly trippy in its way. I've only tried it in a small amount (somewhere in the neighborhood of 50mg or so), combined with ~150mg methylone, and that was a rather strange experience. The BDB changed the methylone experience quite a bit. I don't recall the details as this was quite a while back and didn't strike me as an important experience to remember, but I do remember getting some pretty strong nausea at the onset, which never happens when I take just methylone.

This particular combo was labeled "not worth repeating," and so far has put me off from giving BDB a full on try.

 

[astenu]

Found this report from another forum which describes it favorably:

200mg [of BDB] on an empty stomach for the sheer novelty of it all was interesting. Aware of an effect about 20 minutes later--- felt giddy, a little light headed. Checked my email in the meantime and was disconnecting about 10 minutes later when I was absoultely broadsided by the initial rush of this substance. Feel very flush, felt heart race a bit, a warm and fuzzy glow--- no unlike the pleasant intro to the other MDs, entactogens--- whatever the hell you'll call them--- that I've sampled before. The initial feeling was accompnied by a rather alarming sense of disorientation. Nystagamus was very sudden and intense, my sense of balance was shot, but worst of all, I had a very tough time keeping up a coherent train of thought. I still had a little 'inner voice' that was very much rational--- 'wow, that was quick, hang on, you'll be all set in a couple minutes' that my otherwise chattering brain wasn't listening to. But mental response wansn't tracking the causal physical sensation--- what I felt and what I thought were completely disparate. My mind made sounds that I approximate as: "But wait...." and "what?" I kind of hunched into a ball on my desk chair and waited.

It passed after a couple minutes, leaving me a little shaken, wondering what the hell I had ingested, and whether it was wise to have done so. Then another "wave" hit'.and another and another, etc. Over the next 30 min. or so, I was in a sort of "duck and cover," "all-clear? no!" routine...

I think the intensity of it all scared me a little--- I felt a flash of "oh man, not this for hours". It was a distinct feeling of loss of control, which I'm not paritcularly fond of (perhaps I need to find a new hobby.) Frankly, the feeling smacked vaguely of any one of a variety of smoked, quick acting and short-lasting psychedelics in the immediate whirling and careening around that I was experiencing.

A bit of paranoia manifested in the thought that I had accidentally taken the wrong chemical: "Christ, 200mg--- and it could have been anything! Like of 2CT2! I'm done for!' Oddly enough, I physically felt very good; I was aware of this, but was unable to reconcile that with the feeling in my head, which made the inability to deal with my yammering head all that more difficult. I cast about rather desperately for something to 'ground' me. Breathing exercises, not working'.music, nothing I want'.book, no (I'm reading _In Cold Blood_ by Capote, not the best way to ascend to sanity). Finally happen upon Mum's 'Finally We Are No One'. Happy, soothing chimey music to allow me to pace rapidly around the room in peace. And pace I did, rapidly, for about 20 minutes, until I felt more stable and comfortable. It probably helped that I stopped and actually checked my pulse, which seemed to be elevated, but no terribly so. I think I began to realize that what was freaking me out was a combination of things'.a new material, an unfamiliar effect (well, shit, shoulda expected that), the intensity'.piggyback that on an apparently (but not really) racing heart, so, I now see why I was, well, starting to panic.

As I gradually began to feel a bit more comfortable, I venture outside my room to find that my roommates are racing around frantically cleaning our hovel because apparently a realtor wants to show our apartment to potential tenents (as we're moving out as of summer). This would normally freak me out a bit, yet it gave me something to do, and it turns out that's what's best for me when I'm in such a place.

A half hour into cleaning my room and washing my dishes, I realize that I feel damned good'.a lot better than if I had taken, say, methylone, which has a wonderful up front feeling for about 30 min., then a very blah feeling for 6 hours--- restlessness and darting energy in my body. Instead, music I don't much care for suddenly sounds wunnerful. Washing a dish is almost a game. A conscious pause lasts a few minutes, and I begin to appreciate this material for what it's worth. Work is incidental. Instead, I have a distinct euphoria with--- No tension at all. No teeth clenching. No nausea. No muscle tension. No visuals whatsoever'(okay, some trails). Just a nice glow that seems to go with anything. A big fucking effortless smile on my face. The glow lasts a good five hours'.with a nice good feeling that's lasted, well, 'till now. (12+ hours). No druggy, burned out feeling at all....frankly, I'm now ready for bed and have no doubts I'll be able to drop off without any help....

So, I like this material. The goodness lasts a lot longer than some substances--'longer to the point where I feel very well when I normally start feeling a bit burnt out. I'll probably try it again, but I'll now have a better idea of what I'm getting into next time and therefore a better mindset to venture down that path.

My comparison judgment: ultimately, better than methylone and what I've been told was MDE (but I guess could've been anything). I have no experience with MDMA, so I'm no help there.