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dope and H (outside philadelphia)..comes in glassine bags, usually stamped...ive seen capsules come around twice
 
chrisinabox said:
^i'm not from Cali, i'm from Dallas but i do know a little about the cali heroin game and especially the heroin game in general.

its pretty much all black tar heroin on the west coast. quality can range from absolute shit to very good. prices are pretty cheap overall, i would say around (no pricing)
overall, heroin is cheap yes, but once your tolerance goes up, it becomes expensive.
black tar heroin looks alot like opium or very dark black hashish. it smells like vinegar mostly, usually shiny. a first time dose would be about .05-.1 of tar, depending on what ROA you use. tar can be injected, smoked(off foil), even snorted if you mix it with water and snort the mixture. it can be plugged as well i believe.
if you buy it off the street, i guess its possible that the dealer keeps it in their mouth, though on the west coast, tar is sold in balloons usually. i've never had one of my dealers keep the shit in their mouth, wouldn't have bought it if they had. but i also have never gotten it off the street. not recommnded.
most heroin users do not chip either because they choose not o or because they simply cannot do it. but there are plenty of people that do use heroin recreationally.
lastly, i do no regret trying heroin. i suppose i regret using it as much as i did, but i blame the prohibition of the drug and other drugs for the amount of problems that were caused(which were minimal). i am now on Suboxone and haven't used heroin in a year and 3 months.

that is all i can think of right now.
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Yeah I'd say about 75% of the time I have bought heroin (on the street and call and meet), my dealer would have all the balloons in his mouth and just spit them out after he got your money. The worst part is when you have to throw those mexican saliva drenched balloons of tar back into your mouth after you cop because your in a high drug area and the police could roll up at any moment. Thats the good thing about buying dope in balloons though, you can easily swallow them and get them back later. Bad part is those same balloons your throwing in your mouth could have been in your dealers mouth all day and its not very pleasant to be tasting the beer and taco's Ramon had for lunch lol. But when your puking your guts out and pissing out your ass simultaneously from dope sickness, its usually not that big of deal lol. Oh well, thats the kind of shit you have to deal with I guess when your a strung out junkie.
 
^My guys out west carried shit the same way. They'd keep white(coke obviously) in one side of their mouth and black(dope) in the other.
One day I got a balloon of white, brought it home, and snorted it in two lines. The tie in the balloon must have had a small opening in it. I say this because once the drip started, along with the typical coke taste, I got another equally strong flavor.
The only way I can describe it is the worst, most foul, case of halitosis I've ever encountered, concentrated, and mixed in with my coke. The guys stinky fucking spit must have been leaking into the balloon all day as he drove around and made his stops. I threw up. A few times.
 
Georgie25 said:
Does anyone else always throw up on their first shot of the day (when you're sick)?
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The only time I throw up from a shot is if it's really strong. Shortly after shooting up, right when I start to taste the dope in the back of my throat, I'll puke if it's really strong diesel.
I've thrown up just from being dope sick. Like I'll smell something that sets me off, or brushing my teeth will do it every one in a while(the taste of toothpaste.) You might have a similar reaction to the taste of dope. In other words the strong taste of heroin sets off your gag reflex. It only happens first shot of the day? Or is that usually the time when you tend to get sick?
 
DCrist721 said:
Hey, I was wondering what the standard dimensions were for the glassine(wax-paper) bags that heroin comes in?

You see, in light of a recent loss in my life, I had an idea for a sculpture which will involve a melting martini glass (sitting in a car cup holder) that has heroin bags pouring out from the melting/dropping rim of the glass. I'd like for the bags to resemble actual heroin stamp bags as much as possible, so it would be helpful if I knew what the standard dimensions were for real bags of heroin.

Also, if any fellow New Yorkers read this, it would also help if you could describe what some of the most common stamp designs look like. If you have a photo, that would make it even easier for me to replicate the design with a sharpie.

Thanks a lot for your time.

Oh, and as far as local slang terms for heroin as someone asked before, I understand that "diesel" is a very popular slang in the NY-Metro area. This led to a bit of confusion for me one time, because I walked passed this guy and he said, "I got that diesel" and I thought he meant sour diesel (the strain of weed) so I went and asked him for a gram. Needless to say I was a bit surprised when he told me it was $300, haha.
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Ok...Intresting art design, and sorry for your loss. To answer your questions to the best of my and anyone elses abilty, most wax bags are about 1 1/2 inches long and bout an inch wide

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If that comes out correct after posting thats pretty spot on. However, the stamp is an issue, since there are MILLIONS of them. I would suggest going to the "New New stamp thread" in DC and pick one you like. The diesel thing your right...its weird, someone said to me once that he had diesel...i went to buy some and he came out with bud...Its just slang. But, it can get confusing. However, the farther i got into the dope game the less use of the word deiesel i would use. Shittt....i dont even say the name of the DOC anymore. Depending on who i call. "Yo, can i come see you now?" Yes,No. End phone call.

Good luck!
 
95Land said:
The only time I throw up from a shot is if it's really strong. Shortly after shooting up, right when I start to taste the dope in the back of my throat, I'll puke if it's really strong diesel.
I've thrown up just from being dope sick. Like I'll smell something that sets me off, or brushing my teeth will do it every one in a while(the taste of toothpaste.) You might have a similar reaction to the taste of dope. In other words the strong taste of heroin sets off your gag reflex. It only happens first shot of the day? Or is that usually the time when you tend to get sick?
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I think it's just the whole anticipation aspect of it. I usually have to go thru a whole big ordeal of copping the dope while sick and when I do get home I just want to do it so bad finally that I get sick somehow lol. Well not sick but I throw up either before the shot or right afterwards. Throwing before the shot (from antiipation and from being dope sick too I guess) sucks the worst, especially when you're tryin to register. Because if u throw up before u shoot u just feel like shit even more, but if i throw up after the shot I get the nice rush and dope feeling when Im done so it dont matter anymore...Ive also noticed that different dope makes me throw up while others dont. So its a number of factors.
 
Georgie25 said:
I think it's just the whole anticipation aspect of it. I usually have to go thru a whole big ordeal of copping the dope while sick and when I do get home I just want to do it so bad finally that I get sick somehow lol. Well not sick but I throw up either before the shot or right afterwards. Throwing before the shot (from antiipation and from being dope sick too I guess) sucks the worst, especially when you're tryin to register. Because if u throw up before u shoot u just feel like shit even more, but if i throw up after the shot I get the nice rush and dope feeling when Im done so it dont matter anymore...Ive also noticed that different dope makes me throw up while others dont. So its a number of factors.
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That's weird. Though I guess it makes sense that the anticipation of finally getting high could manifest itself that way. Kind of like how some people get the bubble stomach and have to shit before or right after they cop some coke.

Sorry to hear that it's usually an ordeal to get shit when you're sick. I fucking hate going through the whole pick up process(drive to connects place, sit there and pretend I'm listening and interested in what she's saying, exchange, then cook) all while doubled over with stomach cramps. I feel yer pain. At least in my case I can fix at her house.
I can also empathize with getting distracted while trying to register. I never throw up beforehand, but I'll sometimes go into sneezing fits. I'll be attempting to hit a vein in my hand, sneezing non-stop, trying not to spasm and jab the syringe halfway into my hand.
Then, like you said, it's all worth it when you finally get that shot in yourself. It's an interesting lifestyle. I guess the throwing up thing's just part of your experience. Good luck with all that.;)
 
Does anyone actually know whether there are any advantages to cooking no. 4 east coast H? The H I do is generally whiteish and dissolves fully except for a few grains of whatever at the bottom of the spoon.
I feel like H is like coke in that whats pure will dissolve in water and whats cut will sometimes fall to the bottom.
If anyone has more knowledge of experience I would like to hear it.
 
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Zilla da Thrilla said:
Does anyone actually know whether cooking no. 4 east coast H is necessary? The H I do is generally whiteish and dissolves fully except for a few grains of whatever at the bottom of the spoon. I have cooked many times before and don't notice any difference in effect. I also think its beneficial not to be shooting scalding hot water into your veins.
I feel like H is like coke in that whats pure will dissolve in water and whats cut will sometimes fall to the bottom.
If anyone has more knowledge of experience I would like to hear it.
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No heating needed. I've never heated any of my dope. You shouldn't be iving hot water into your veins either. If you do decide to heat your dope for whatever reason then you're suppost to wait until the water has cooled down before iving it. And yeah the shit that doesnt dissolve is the cut in it. Hope that helps.
 
Hey, I get my stuff my paterson, nj and I'm trying to figure out if the my boy who takes me is ripping me off. He says bundle prices are not allowed to be posted on this message board and the price doesn't get any cheaper until you buy up to a brick. So if any ptown heads can clear this up for me I could confront my dude.

Thanks
 
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no price discussion.
ripped off.

thanks bud, but in the future could you please report rule breaking posts ;) -thizzer
 
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Hendrix Haze15 said:
Well here in Southern Cali, dope can refer to either heroin or meth, depending on who you talk to. To me and pretty much everyone I know, dope means heroin and thats it but if you go into the meth crowds and meth neighborhoods (which is everywhere here unfortunately), you will hear people refer to meth as dope of D. I'd say overall though in Cali, dope on the street means heroin. You also hear a lot of people refer to meth as shit. Which makes sense as meth is a horrible, disgusting drug.
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This is eaxctley the scene in So. California, with stupid tweakers calling crysatl dope. You can usuley tell just by looking at the person though........ and yeah if your buying small amounts(balloons) then the dude is gonna cary them in his mouth, its not a problem to just wipe them off very well.
 
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Ive never heard anyone call meth "dope"
"dope" has always refered to heroin in my area.

I hate the balloons. They're nasty, sticky, and smelly.
 
^^^ Why do you hate balloons? I love balloons because they are so easy to swallow and get back later. They are only nasty and smelly when they have been in the dope mans mouth all day, which unfortunately is most of the time lol
 
During my 1st and 1 year long run I only bought foils as I was too scared to go to the ghetto and get the shit myself. I finally went and for the first time got plastic baggies packed in another plastic baggies that does not open unless u use a knife/scissors. Each bag is so hard to open, u know the shit is not stepped on. It feels so clean. I want some now :( Same price as other bags but it's actually worth at least another half to another whole bag more. Even if he sold me 1 bag for price of two I wouldn't feel ripped off. I'm doing the happy heroin dance as I never had such high quality stuff in my life.

This guy will have my business for as long as we both stay on the trade. And I met him just randomly, stopping my car and waiting for someone to yell "Blows", not Blow as that is coke.

I had some other guy but his shit was crap. Didn't feel right, it had something weird in it so I took my chances and got lucky! Got his # and stuff and he remembers me now cuz he asked to get in my car to go pick up the shit...u shouldn't let dealers in your car...and I was all saying "Please don't kill me, if u get me good stuff I'll be your customer for life" and he was laughing at me but I had reasons to be scared cuz I'm a small white girl with a pretty nice new car. I want to go there soon.

MOST FIERY FIRE OF MY LIFE!!!

And why is every dealer's name in Chicago MIKE? My friend pointed this out a while ago and when thus new guy said his name was mike I laughed a little inside.
 
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