Base for ADD

[Peakingwithyou]

Do any of you guys take Base/Meth as a treatment for ADD?

Reason i ask, is most people i know that take it are like "Raaa, blah blah blah blah blahahahahaha" can run around football fields all day, are so energized its not funny. But for someone like me that as a kid had too much ants in his pants rather than the now described ADD/ADHD. When i take Base i never feel energy rather i feel anxious but very calm and am able to do things i would pass on doing when not on it. I cant sleep on it, but achieve alot more of the cleaning and so on that normally would not get done. The same goes with my Fiancee, she is a machine on it, her life is in perfect order, the house is spotless, the dinner is always cooked and nothing needs doing. When she doesnot take it, nothing happens, she dont do anything, cant keep things in order and cant think straight.

Im just curious.

Thanks
PWY

 

[permastoned]

She cooks dinner? How the f*** can you eat on methamphetamine! Dude don't do meth! It's neurotoxic.. .the more you do it the more you will be useless without it and the more you will crave it. I wish I never even touched dexamphetamine.

 

[Peakingwithyou]

I never take it, I maybe have had about 5grams of it in my life, im 34, she on the other hand only takes it to get things done, not for the high but rather the organisational side of it. Seriously even when she never ever touched it she could not get things done in the day, she has since tried it and gets so much done its not funny and yes you can eat fairly easily off it once the intitial high wears off. Its not easy but you can do it. I dont want her to be addicted to it but she just works so well on it, she gets everything done but does not get a high from it, no rushes or nothing like that.

 

[headdah]

Nothing wrong with Meth as long as You can excersise self control But that self control is very very hard to come by.

Most people cant

and Perma: Its easy to eat on Meth. Its actually good to eat on it. You feel so much healthier/less scattered if you do eat regularly on it.

 

[Jakeperson]

Once you have a decent tolerance you can eat on it but usually by then that self control has been gone for a while

She cooks dinner? How the f*** can you eat on methamphetamine! Dude don't do meth! It's neurotoxic.. .the more you do it the more you will be useless without it and the more you will crave it. I wish I never even touched dexamphetamine.

Dexamp vs Methamp makes for two very different experiences. Dexamp is foul in comparison IME.




They both sound like pretty typical non-ADD/ADHD reactions to meth.

From wiki

Psychological effects can include euphoria, anxiety, increased libido, alertness, concentration, increased energy, increased self-esteem, self-confidence, sociability, irritability, aggressiveness, psychosomatic disorders, psychomotor agitation, dermatillomania, delusions of grandiosity, hallucinations, excessive feelings of power and invincibility, repetitive and obsessive behaviors, paranoia, and with chronic and/or high doses, amphetamine psychosis can occur.

 

[p-man]

and Perma: Its easy to eat on Meth. Its actually good to eat on it. You feel so much healthier/less scattered if you do eat regularly on it.

Really? I don't think I'd go so far as to say its easy.. 9/10 people I know have a lot of difficulty eating whist on it. May be different of you're a chronic or regular user, but I think that most people on here would agree that is definitely isn't 'easy' to eat on meth.

 

[pinkanga]

I agree its not easy to eat on stims, but I also agree its beneficial... if you can figure out a way to sleep and eat while using stims - if only a little - the experience is so much less taxing on the body (and mind).

 

[headdah]

Really? I don't think I'd go so far as to say its easy.. 9/10 people I know have a lot of difficulty eating whist on it. May be different of you're a chronic or regular user, but I think that most people on here would agree that is definitely isn't 'easy' to eat on meth.

haha, yeah I may or may not was a Chronic user
It was hard to eat in the beginning, but it gets easier as tolerance builds up and u make a habbit of eating
2weeks off the pippy now. I believe this is the longest I've been off it since maybe 14-15months ago

I plan on abstaining until next month a huge musik festi weekend

 

[flexmasta12]

I fucking hate the crackie. Ever since the molly situation in adelaide went south, a fuckton of my mates turned to meth, and still smoke it every nearly weekend (or more). I dont enjoy sitting in the room when they passing it around, you can see each one of the feinding for their go. I honestly sit in there to test my self control, and i do very well .
I much prefer to have 100mg of ritalin, then a point of meth. To me the high is much more enjoyable anyway, and less damaging on the mind and body.

 

[MatthewD]

I haven't had time to read any of the previous posts properly, but this is my experience. Meth can be great for AD[H]D symptoms, so long you literally have like a few dollars worth at a time. Any more, and you're off your head rushing around. Basically, use the littlest amount you can feel (treat it like potent Coffee), and try not get a buzz (which is hard...). I used to have what I called a "$5 lick" every morning, and did it every day for a few weeks. I got more fit, stronger, managed to move out of home and LOVED putting in the labor to do this. Not only that, but you're immune, somewhat, to tiredness and flu etc. I ate well too. The key is moderation. Whether you're hyperactive usually, or the non-hyperactive type, you should get some beneficial effects. That being said, it's obvious that you're getting a cut product, that in the mid-long term probably wont do you any good. So unless you make the Meth yourself, you're better off getting some ADD prescriptions. Dexamphetamine to me is about 50-75% as effective... I still could do with a little more of the smoother feeling adrenaline I feel. I only stopped this due to losing my connections and getting pharmaceutical grade substitutes.

 

[Christ!]

Do any of you guys take Base/Meth as a treatment for ADD?

Reason i ask, is most people i know that take it are like "Raaa, blah blah blah blah blahahahahaha" can run around football fields all day, are so energized its not funny. But for someone like me that as a kid had too much ants in his pants rather than the now described ADD/ADHD. When i take Base i never feel energy rather i feel anxious but very calm and am able to do things i would pass on doing when not on it. I cant sleep on it, but achieve alot more of the cleaning and so on that normally would not get done. The same goes with my Fiancee, she is a machine on it, her life is in perfect order, the house is spotless, the dinner is always cooked and nothing needs doing. When she doesnot take it, nothing happens, she dont do anything, cant keep things in order and cant think straight.

Im just curious.

Thanks
PWY

The whole amphetamines calming you down isn't just the case with people who have ADD, it's the same for lots of people.

I used meth as a 'treatment' for my ADD for a while. Didn't really realize it at the time, as I thought ADD was a bunch of BS back then. I'd buy a gram and it would last me a few weeks, just taking tiny amounts a couple times a day. I'd still occasionally take bigger doses on the weekend, but never really understood the appeal of being up for days and 24 hours awake would be about my max. Used to make me feel very calm.

I've been on and off dexamphetamine for a couple years. It's got it's positives and negatives just like everything else but overall it's been helpful to me. Slipped up a few months ago and started 'abusing' it, knew if I kept doing that it'd just go off the rails eventually so at first got a housemate to give it to me daily and now I get it weekly from the chemist. Not sure if I'd recommend it, my biggest fear is fucking up my life majorly if I started abusing it. Def don't want to be taking it for years and years.

I think large doses of stimulants can bring out ADD symptoms, as well as withdrawal from these stims. Also - maybe the effects of meth are more 'calming' rather than 'off your head' when you're using it regularly.

Maybe try giving the gear a rest for a month? It'd be pretty shit to have to take meth regularly to feel able to function.

here's some info on getting through withdrawal if you're thinking about stopping - http://www.meth.org.au/fileadmin/downloads/Amphetamine_wdl.pdf

 

[footscrazy]

^ I agree with this. A lot of people find methamphetamine calming or relaxing. Doesn't necessarily you mean you have ADHD, though I'm sure there are people with it who self medicate with it. I've found the more pure meth is, the more relaxing it is. I have a couple of hypothesis for the reason for this, one being that 'speed' often contains other, psychoactive byproducts/cuts that are more stimulating or 'rushy'. The other is that as meth kicks in the 'reward' response, with less pure speed, doing other activities that also reinforce the reward pathway (cleaning, gambling, sex, etc) increase the high. Whereas pure meth gives such an extreme reward, that doing it is enough in itself. So much so that it hijacks your brain into just wanting to do that one activity, and even moving willl be seen as lessening the high in some way. Have any other iceheads got that same feeling, that you don't even want to move from the spot you've been sitting in for the last few days, because there's a sense that you'll 'miss' something?

 

[Peakingwithyou]

Thank you for all your replies, she only takes about 0.03 everyday and it seems to be enough for her to succeed in everything she does, with no consequences imo. She sleeps well,eats well and her/our life is so organised. She also feels to the people that it calms is a reason that they may have mental problems or depression that is why it calms them rather than get them high. She is not gonna be on it for a long time thats for sure, just to get her life in order as she is depressed a bit.


I just have another question, when she has it she feels Ecstacy much more but when i take base and then eat a pill i dont feel the pill at all, all that happens is i rush more and sweat like a pig? I know alot of people can have the two and feel great but with me xtc does not work if im on base.

 

[MatthewD]

Thank you for all your replies, she only takes about 0.03 everyday and it seems to be enough for her to succeed in everything she does, with no consequences imo. She sleeps well,eats well and her/our life is so organised. She also feels to the people that it calms is a reason that they may have mental problems or depression that is why it calms them rather than get them high. She is not gonna be on it for a long time thats for sure, just to get her life in order as she is depressed a bit.


I just have another question, when she has it she feels Ecstacy much more but when i take base and then eat a pill i dont feel the pill at all, all that happens is i rush more and sweat like a pig? I know alot of people can have the two and feel great but with me xtc does not work if im on base.

I really doubt your "ecstacy" (assuming pills or caps) has pure MDMA content, as it would more than likely contain stimulating adulterants in the first place. Could it be that you're just not noticing the smaller amounts of those lesser stimulants because Base is a lot stronger and overpowers it? I'd lean towards that...

 

[Jabberwocky]

^ I agree with this. A lot of people find methamphetamine calming or relaxing. Doesn't necessarily you mean you have ADHD, though I'm sure there are people with it who self medicate with it. I've found the more pure meth is, the more relaxing it is. I have a couple of hypothesis for the reason for this, one being that 'speed' often contains other, psychoactive byproducts/cuts that are more stimulating or 'rushy'. The other is that as meth kicks in the 'reward' response, with less pure speed, doing other activities that also reinforce the reward pathway (cleaning, gambling, sex, etc) increase the high. Whereas pure meth gives such an extreme reward, that doing it is enough in itself. So much so that it hijacks your brain into just wanting to do that one activity, and even moving willl be seen as lessening the high in some way. Have any other iceheads got that same feeling, that you don't even want to move from the spot you've been sitting in for the last few days, because there's a sense that you'll 'miss' something?

If I have no obligations, this is the general feeling I get. I am content sitting where I am sitting, doing nothing other than browsing the internet or playing some solitaire. I feel relaxed, and i've often described the feeling to those who haven't had a pipe of good stuff as "a cone that instead of making your head cloudy, makes it clear and makes your entire body feel euphoric". If I have things to do though, it only increases my motivation and I feel an urge to get everything done so that I can return to my comfy lounge and sit and just let time pass. I've actually found myself putting off bathroom breaks because I'm so content right where I am.

 

[Peakingwithyou]

I really doubt your "ecstacy" (assuming pills or caps) has pure MDMA content, as it would more than likely contain stimulating adulterants in the first place. Could it be that you're just not noticing the smaller amounts of those lesser stimulants because Base is a lot stronger and overpowers it? I'd lean towards that...

Champ ive been eating MDMA since the 90's intermittently and believe me it is MDMA even pure caps ive had on it and it just makes me sweat and rush more, i feel no effects of the pill, it may also be a "freak out" thing in my mind as i used to throw up at one stage in the 90's everytime a pill would come on, the dopamine release was too much for my body to handle and i would be sick when the pills were coming on but after i threw up i was peaking like a duck! I have had this conversation with alot of people and some of them can take base with pills, others it does the same to them what it does for me, its like the base is so much stronger and does not let the pill override it.

 

[Peakingwithyou]

Triplies, thats funny it does the opposite to me, and does to my missus what it does to you.....funny how we are all different, thanks for sharing your side of the story.

 

[MatthewD]

Champ ive been eating MDMA since the 90's intermittently and believe me it is MDMA even pure caps ive had on it and it just makes me sweat and rush more, i feel no effects of the pill, it may also be a "freak out" thing in my mind as i used to throw up at one stage in the 90's everytime a pill would come on, the dopamine release was too much for my body to handle and i would be sick when the pills were coming on but after i threw up i was peaking like a duck! I have had this conversation with alot of people and some of them can take base with pills, others it does the same to them what it does for me, its like the base is so much stronger and does not let the pill override it.

I've known a bunch of my friends who are into the selling/dealing scene to have made up their own pills from relatively pure MDMA, mixed with 1:1 cut "Base", 1 step down from the cook. I know this for a fact, by the way. The ratio, I'm unsure of, but it was approximately 1 point of MDMA, and an unknown amount of Methamphetamine Base. The Meth itself was a lot more subtle than the sweating, eyes-rolling-in-the-back-of-your-head, hugging fat chicks etc. rush of the MDMA. I can make this comparison as I have taken them individually from the same batch from the same supplier. I've lost track here (stupid head cold!), but umm, I think that in a proper dose, MDMA can far overpower your average 'lick' of Gak.