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base and my little sister

not all baseheads/methheads are seedy yo :P

i'd like to think i'm one thats not haha.

but yes meth scene is def a seedy scene. If only bulk mdma was around. I'd be happy for my little sister to indulge in md's thats if i had a little sister to begin with haha
 
headdah said:
not all baseheads/methheads are seedy yo :P

i'd like to think i'm one thats not haha.

but yes meth scene is def a seedy scene. If only bulk mdma was around. I'd be happy for my little sister to indulge in md's thats if i had a little sister to begin with haha
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I think copious use of psychs counteracts the stims seediness ;)
 
I think you should understand why she is using in the first place. She could be taking to self medicate because of issues at home etc, i.e. this is her new form of escape even though it's not the best one. Based on this if you pressure her etc she will keep on turning to it as it works in terms of escape.

Usually there are two options in life, fight or run....If your sister is running you want her to go the other way otherwise issues later on in life get messy and it ruins everyone..
 
Well tonight I sat down with her in a calm non threatening manner and had a good coversation. We talked about drugs in general at first. My experiences at her age, our mothers alcoholism and just how it all started with her. Luckily its been only every weekend for a month. Id noticed some changes in her lately but teenagers are moody you know... and I just didnt see it. Im still unsure if she is lying about the amount she is using. Worst thing is she said she loves the feeling :X and its not a big deal as she will never get hooked on anything.

Id printed out some info on the harm this drug can cause and where addiction could lead and just asked her to please read it in her own time. Told her she can talk to me about anything and left it at that for tonight.

Tom I will make some calls to her school and check her attendance. Possibly ring around the various drug counselling organisations and get advice on how is best to deal with this and the next step. Not sure where else to go from here
 
you should not inform the schools of what u found out too. as she told u that in confidence. If school finds out, you might loose her for good !
 
arjans haze said:
Worst thing is she said she loves the feeling
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Well yeah, no shit. That's why people use drugs.

Going through her stuff was wrong. I understand you care about her and want to help, but invading her privacy will be the fastest way to hinder any chance you have to influence her to make better choices.

It's likely your efforts to stop her using will be completely ineffective. As much as we'd like others to learn from our mistakes, it doesn't usually happen. People have to learn for themselves, and make the decision to use or not use themselves.

Your best chance of helping her is to be non judgemental and educate her as much as you can about drugs and harm reduction, and then, unfortunately, let her learn from her own mistakes.
 
and don't search her room dude. What the hell is that about? She confided in you, told you when you had absolutely no idea about it. Then why are you going and searching her room for the stuff when she isn't there. Real dumb if you ask me. Were you planning on taking it away? So that she needs to get more money to get more? Searching her room and taking the drugs away will not help at all, it will only make things worse.

She is honest and upfront with her problem and you go and act like the immature one, sneaking around when she isn't there.

If you want to know all about base then ASK HER. Tell her you won't get mad at her while she shows you. Then make an appointment with an addiction specialist (psychiatrist) and talk to them to make a plan on helping her.

You should be very happy that she told you before you found out yourself. This means she trusts you. Don't do stupid things in order to destroy this trust.
 
footscrazy said:
Well yeah, no shit. That's why people use drugs.

Going through her stuff was wrong. I understand you care about her and want to help, but invading her privacy will be the fastest way to hinder any chance you have to influence her to make better choices.

It's likely your efforts to stop her using will be completely ineffective. As much as we'd like others to learn from our mistakes, it doesn't usually happen. People have to learn for themselves, and make the decision to use or not use themselves.

Your best chance of helping her is to be non judgemental and educate her as much as you can about drugs and harm reduction, and then, unfortunately, let her learn from her own mistakes.
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Yeah your 100% right it was the wrong thing to do. I made a promise to her tonight Id never do it again but I expect honesty in return. I think that breach of her trust has hindered things for sure. She has never been so angry with me
 
arjans haze said:
its not a big deal as she will never get hooked on anything.
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No addict ever thought they would get addicted. But when using such addictive drugs as base addiction is very likely. No matter how strong the person is. The drug itself is addictive so its not as much about the person. Every addict says this " oh I will never get hooked on anything, I've used drugs before and I am just too strong for that and have too much will power". or at least 99% of addicts. They turn off that logical part of the brain and think it won't happen to them. But with base, it happens to a lot of people who continue using. Every weekend for a month to me seems like she is on the road to addiction. Few more months and she will be there, regardless of what she says.
 
As others have said it was a bad call to search her room, I mean she has been honest with you which is a really good sign and that could go to shit if you go doing shit like that.

I know she's "only" 16 and this is a harm reduction board, but I really have a hard time seeing what any addiction specialist will do for her when she seems very far from an addiction at this stage. It is easy to say that there is no harm in getting her to see somebody but I don't know, forcing that shit on her just seems like punishing her for honesty. If I had been made to see addiction specialists as a non addicted 16 year old, while I would harbour a lot less resentment to my guardians than other courses of action they could take, I would certainly be apprehensive to be honest about my drug use again in future.

I really think that you should spend time educating yourself and her, but don't be full on with addiction specialists when she isn't an addict. I think it would be good to use some honest info that isn't pure propaganda, explain why you are concerned and make it clear to her that she can come to you with a problem if it gets out of hand and you will support her.

She is going to do whatever she is going to do man, you are better off to be in the loop and remain someone that she can come to in need than alienating yourself from her with futile efforts to stop her from engaging in a behaviour she clearly enjoys.

Probaby the best thing you could do is make her realise that smoking meth is pretty fucking addictive and that other, less addictive ROAs can still give you a sick high without being so fiendy.
 
You don't want therapy to label her as an addict either. One you've had a professional telling you you have a problem, it's very easy to start living up to that, and start to lose personal responsibility for your 'sickness'.
 
Sucks you have to play the parent. Keep talking. Keep the dialogue going. Tell heer your feelings and that you are scare for her.

Yes. She is probably minimizing her drug usage.

Don't tell the school she is on drugs till you are sure you have all the facts. DO get her attendance records.

Good luck. Sometimes all you can do is watch and be there when they fall.
 
exactly. telling the school will just further alienate her from everyone. big no no.

Its almost as if you are pushing the needle into her veins your self if you do tell the school
 
Yeah you're going very overboard here. Meth addiction is pretty nasty, but you have no reason to suspect that she's anywhere close to addicted at this stage. By overreacting like this you're just going to push her further away and strain your relationship, you want to encourage her to be as open and honest with you as possible, so that if things do start to get worse she knows she can trust you enough to come to you with her problems.

Right now the best thing you can do is talk to her, be honest with her and encourage her to do the same with you. She doesn't need addiction counsellors because she's not addicted, and unless you have hard evidence to suggest that she's been skipping class, then there's no reason to go prying into her school records. Just because she enjoys meth doesn't mean she's instantly going to spiral down into some kind of street running juvenile delinquent, and acting judgmental or treating her like an addict is going to be completely counterproductive.
 
Thanks everyone, I guess even calling the school to check her attendance could come back to hurt me in the same way that I searched her room. So after sleeping on it I decided against calling.

My idea for calling some gov/community drug places was not about getting her into counselling, more about me getting advice on how to handle it as her guardian. To be honest the advice Im getting from you guys who have been 'that teenager' is most likely more effective anyway.
 
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