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Barbiturates, for all yous old folk?

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so for all those old folk around here, how easily available were barbs such as mandraxx (methaqualone)?

My dad always used to rave about methaqualone, saying it pisses all over the more commonly used benzo's of todays world.

So to my proper question, why is it they were so more readily available back in the 70/80's and they are basically almost never too be seen in todays day and age?

do you's old folk miss barbs such as mandraxx? what is the feeling that they give? i have taken numerous benzos but never had the pleasure too try mandraxx or any barb for that matter?
 
its because they were replaced by benzos for nearly everything. Plus i dont think methaqualone is technically a barb but im not sure.
 
They were readily available back then because they were prescribed a lot more. Nowadays they've been pretty much entirely replaced by benzos.
 
Methaqualone wasn't a barbiturate but the effects were similar.

Several family members were fond of barbs and mandrax back in the day. Potentially nasty stuff, but apparently much more enjoyable than today's downers.
 
The safety window of barbs is pretty shite, if you OD chances are you'd croak. That is much less of a concern with benzo's. Boils down to the different way each drug class effects the GABA-A receptor and how it responds in the event of an OD. One is much 'safer' than t'other.
 
So to my proper question, why is it they were so more readily available back in the 70/80's and they are basically almost never too be seen in todays day and age?
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They were the go to tool for nervous people and insomniacs. Benzos became more popular for reasons that others have put forward to do with ODing and because, rather quaintly in hindsight, they were not seen as something you could get addicted to.
 
There's meprobamate, too. Don't know why it's still available where I live. Not so great of a downer, like benzos (I mean compared to barbs and MQ, me loves my benzos).
 
One of the most dangerous things about Barbs , is the fact that 1 day the same dose can effect you more than it did the last time you took the same dose.

They are also Very addictive and u can OD easily on them , theirs not really any reasons why a Doc would want to prescribe a drug that has so many flaws, n could loose em their licence they are all CDs btw,
Phenobarbital is till used i've had a few times n like i said didn't rate it like the other Barbs that i have had.
 
I was rather annoyed to find out that Carisoprodol isn't scripted in the UK actually (or atleast not in England) as it sounded perfect for me at the time that I went onto a higher-ish Diazepam dose.
Sounds rather lush really.. Used to be available from net pharmacies everywhere a year or two ago but I'm unsure if it still is.

But yea, Barbs are really fucking dangerous as people have mentioned.
And as Chemical Samile pointed out, the dose-response curve is crazy dodgy. You could quite easily go from having a lovely time to taking one or two extra tabs and ODing 8(

Benzos replaced them (and Quaaludes) because of their notoriously dangerous nature. Benzos are like cotton wool compared to Barb's Iron wool :\
 
^Truth. Butalbital is widely prescribed in the United States (although that could depend on your definition of "widely"), I don't know about the UK/Europe however.
 
It's not something I've seen about at all over this side of the pond actually.
When it comes to migraines you tend to get prescribed Sumatriptan 'roond deez partz ;)
It could be used when all other options have failed though, but I doubt docs are that keen on scripting it :\
 
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seconal is one that a tried a few times and enjoyed thouroughly. Very euphoric and like was mentioned was kinda like a drunk. Mixing seconal or potentially any of the good barbs (pentobarb and amytal) causes synergistic euphoria in much the same way as coke and heroin combined when the barbs are taken with methamphetamine- smooth out the high but also jack up the euphoria. Its one of those clasic combos like sauterne and foie gras.

Mandrax I've never tried but started a thread about thats now in archives. Its still being used and abused in West Cape region mostly. The method of choice is to take an illicitly produced pill or "button" and smoke it usually with schwag weed made for that reason. This is a ghetto drug primarily- the smokers of get a huge rush that usually brings them to their knees- there is a good documentary that has a few sceens shwing mandrax smoking. But methamphetamine "tik" has been replacing it as the ghetto drug of choice in SA. In the US methaqualone, which isn't a barbituate, was called qualuudes and fueled the 70s sexual revolution. It has purported unique effects as an aphrosiiac. Placidyl was a great drug before they pulled it from the market. Good ole Chloro hydrate was prety good too- was rxed it in the 90s- got some of the best sleep in my life. Placidyl was good for kicking gear- was the only drug that would give me a few hours of sleep.

For a second I thought this thread was going to be about euthanasia!
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Its funny you say that- seconal was rereleased in the US. It is the drug of choice for euthanasia in Oregon. Its only $100.00 for a lethal dose (100- 100 mg pills.) rathe than pentobarb liquid which is over 1,000 dollars. HBO has a good documentary I think called how to die in oregon or something like this. At such a high dose people lose conciousnesss in about 6-7 seconds.

Mandrax has diphehydramine mixed with the methaqualone. The reason is because it inteferes with the metabolism of the primary drug and augments it's plasma levels, not just because it is also sedating. From what I've heard, ludes are in a legue of their own- the euphoria was so great. There waas an RC analogue but I think it was disapointing somehow.

Wonder if mandrax is on te silk mroad website if that site is still running.

anyway here is the methaqualone thread:

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=383536&page=3

I started on page 3 b/c there is info on contemporary use down in SA. But the thread has loads of info.
 
Barbiturates are still about, although they are more expensive and not as widely available. Personally, since they aren't really cheap I'd rather stick to the standard valium/temazapam/xanax. I do know that in the UK they can be prescribed for epilepsy and is very effective in doing so.
 
I think the correct designation for mandrax ( methaqualone, US brand name quaalude) was a hypnotic. Hypnotised many an unsuspecting girl and boy into beds they'd never normally visit in their heyday. When downer/sex freaks tried to replace them with tuinol they went over like ninepins. Barbiturates are the only addiction from which cold turkey withdrawal actually kills, usually from heart attack.

Oddly enough, diconal have just been finally withdrawn from circulation after being nigh on impossible to get for years. Like palfium, took many a limb in its time; arms and legs amputated from dike fans were piled high at the old Charing X hospital. But a lot of fun if you weren't unlucky. RIP, sorely missed etc.
 
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