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Bad trips really not that bad?

ive taken lsd on about 7 ocassions now i can recall, maybe 6 and have never had a bad trip, no matter the environment. id like to hear peoples ideas of a 'bad trip'
 
I kinda agree with the OP here, at least to some extent. Once while I was on acid, I ripped a bowl of salvia and a nitrous balloon and shit went completely crazy. I didn't know who I was for a good 10 minutes spent in salvia hell. Apparently I was writhing on the ground the whole time. While I was trying to sleep an hour later, I kept hearing hallucinated voices, to the point where I wondered if I broke something in my head and would be schizophrenic for life. Of course, I was fine but it was scary as hell at the time.

But despite the horror of it, I'm glad I did it. I knew it wasn't gonna be fun before I did it but I wanted to push the boundary as far as I could. I'm glad I had the experience in retrospect.
 
i haven't had a really bad trip on JWH-018 (mainly because i've been careful with my doses) but i can say that the second time i smoked cannabis, i got incredibly high and was basically experiencing what you described. i pulled through it though and sometimes wonder why i ever went back to it after that hellish trip.

i find that weed (and other cannabinoids) can really cause an intense mind train, and usually the beginning of a bad trip on other psychs is catalyzed by the addition of weed.
 
DevinTheDude said:
Anyone ever experienced a "bad trip" on a JWH018 overdose? I am convinced this is as intense and horrifying as they get. Its like getting attacked by an overbearing and unstoppable evil force whose only purpose is to torment your helpless, mortal soul.

The ones I have experienced, I have had absolutely zero ability to overcome this force. Its almost like it is attacking you with the most profound and irrefutable logic at 100 mph. You have no choice but to submit to the power of this force. I think people with somewhat of a cannabis tolerance are safe from experiencing trips like this- all of my friends that used to smoke habitually have never experienced this.

I'm curious if anyone has ever experienced anything similar to this. This "bad trip" is also completely consumed with seemingly ridiculous "revelations" about life, however, at the time you have no choice but to hang on for the ride and submit to the evil.

Some of the rides I've been taken on- everything YOU've experienced in this life was completely a hoax all leading up to this point of ultimate destruction and torment (everyone you know is an illusion and all experiences are completely fabricated in your mind)... during this one I was basically shown that my whole life led up to that epic moment of hell and I would exist in that moment forever. I, myself, had no intellectual credibility to refute any of these attacks. I basically only had the choice to sit there any take it all in as absolute truth because my sense of self and personal awareness had shrunken down so much to the point where all I could do was observe.

It wasn't until the next morning where I could look back and say... well none of that was true.. but holy shit what a terrifying ride.

Has anyone every experienced a bad trip like this? Where literally the only "positive" thing you can take from it is the fact that you have learned not to go back to that place again?
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haha yeah I'd get that frequently, maybe we should chat sometime and compare
 
dildonian jr. said:
salvia

scariest trip ever i had,i got grabbed by an arm and it put me in the slots of time.. then the slots started shifting and i didnt have a frickin clue what was going on.
i woke up kinda and my friend was so trippy looking and i keep calling him the ring master cause he was video taping me but i thought that he waqs controlling the the slots of time.
for thirty minutes i was the most scared ive ever been in my entire life.
but later i realized it was a trip and i was like badass i just tripped sack!!!!!
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My first and last experiment with salvia was extremely similar to this. The trip was so powerful and the magnitude of the visuals/headspace so intense!

To this day I can still recall the visuals and sounds from that trip but can never put it into words lol
 
I feel that having full blown ego-death is really good and can be really bad at the same time. I think that different substances produce different styles of ego-death. You feel as if your very individuality is being ripped out your very being. This very reason being why trips can feel "bad". Once one has experienced this on each substance one wants to use, you have more power to learn from experiences and apply in your daily life (even though it's hard at first). Then when you feel it's the right time to trip again you will have a better ability of understanding the process and can navigate easier. To be truthful I don't think bad trips are "bad" at all. Usually intensly ego dissolving trips for me have been quite difficult but always turned out completely and utterly bissful. Sometimes it takes time to reveal how good the experience was. Every trip is a blessing.
 
Bad trips are your own damn fault and you deserve any long-lasting psychological trauma from them.

Considering a psychedelic experience is what you make it, if you make it bad, it's your fault. If you did not sufficiently prepare to prevent it from being bad, it's your fault. If you allowed someone to be around you while in an altered state who could cause it to be bad, it's your fault, etc.

Stop blaming drugs for your own poor decisions.
 
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Never had a bad trip.... However, there were some trips that were not "easy" by anything... The craziest thing ever was acid + k. Its like getting hit with a truck and knocked out of your body fold into the reality that is quickly falling apart around you. And then your just in this space. there was this mildly dark feel to it, for a little bit i contemplated the notion of death. This combination of drugs shouldn't rationally kill you, but if you go into it expecting it, maybe you will just remember that you did drugs and they will wear off, but it was intense.... Just go with it.... You want a bed for this one....

Also, i did nearly kill myself during a salvia trip. Its a long story but it was my own fault, but anyways.... I thought i died. There was my death and judgment in the form of a studio audience talkshow. And yea, i don't do salvia anymore... It wasn't an unpleasant experience, its just way too weird for me.... its often a really dark drug.


Its all perspective of it, you can learn a lot about yourself in that kind of state. But also crazy high amounts of acid and mushrooms will make some people freak out. Ive seen psychedelics break people.....
 
Bad trips are your own damn fault and you deserve any long-lasting psychological trauma from them.

Wow you must be hardcore. Too bad you don't know the thoughts, experiences, lives, and brain chemistry of everyone ever. When you do, then you have the right to say that.
 
The only trips that i'm sure are "bad" are the ones where I spend far to much time in a nauseated state and not much or any in an ecstatic one.

one can feel gross during a trip (usually on blueball doses) and therefore dislike it and write it off as a fail, like my AMT trip, just to low of a dose and I didn't like it, also it was hot as hell that day and I just felt nauseous.

usually a badly failed trip turns me off for quite some time from that specific substance, i've had a couple headaches on LSD lately and I don't know what to make of it, acid used to be my best buddy :(. it might just be an issue of crap quality though.

also on that note you can have a "bad" trip by accidently dosing! thinking of acid I'm not sure if i've ever been sold DOx as acid before but some trips... just bleck, i feel more physical symptoms than mental, and thats not right! Feel constantly on the edge of puking, blurry vision without any characteristic hallucination, vs the times i've had LSD and felt like I could touch the 60's !<3 ah!
 
I agree with what some people said; that it all depends on how one looks at the situation. I personally see bad trips more so as difficult experiences. I think it's natural to have some difficult experiences if one is using psychedelics, especially if using them for purposes of personal and/or spiritual development. I think it's most ideal when a difficult trip facilitates thought that ultimately leads to positive change. :) For some reason, I really enjoy looking back on all trips, even the couple of them that just seemed unbearable at the time...
 
Bad trips have caused some of the worst in the moment experiences I've ever had, but I agree with the idea that once you've had them you recognize there's not much to worry about. Thoughts are fleeting and sometimes it's necessary to take them some not so friendly places just to see what it's all about. I've ended up with a better understanding of my character (even the fringe parts of my personality I don't acknowledge very often) because of bad trips.
 
MyExcuse said:
Bad trips are your own damn fault and you deserve any long-lasting psychological trauma from them.

Considering a psychedelic experience is what you make it, if you make it bad, it's your fault. If you did not sufficiently prepare to prevent it from being bad, it's your fault. If you allowed someone to be around you while in an altered state who could cause it to be bad, it's your fault, etc.

Stop blaming drugs for your own poor decisions.
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Sure it's your own decision to take the drug in whatever setting you decided to (most of the time). That absolutely does not mean you deserve any psychological trauma. I don't think anyone is solely blaming the drugs here at all, not sure where that idea came from. Though the drugs were in fact the cause of being in that state so it's hard to say they did not play a significant part.

And no everything is not always completely your own damn fault. My friend went into a psychotic state because he took a bunch of some DOx on a blotter being sold as acid. Is that his own damn fault? He was expecting a completely different drug...

I think this is an ignorant post.
 
My experience of "ego death" occurred in 2002 from hydro cannabis. I had a panic attack and admitted myself to hospital in a terror. I was so scary because at that time i never knew anything about panic attacks or any such concepts i simply thought I was dying. The fear of having that experience again led to panic disorder, hypochondria, shattered confidence, benzo dependence, opiate dependence, and possibly explains my current love - meth - which makes me feel in control/powerful/centered.
 
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