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Bad Trip: Weed in a blunt

Belisarius

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Through a series of unusual events, I had the opportunity last night to get stoned for the first time in ages, and only the third time in total Two friends (E and J) and I went to a mutual friend's house (D); I bought a blunt that D rolled, and then E, J, and I split it outside.

D said that the stuff was really, really strong (hydro), and I had no reason to disbelieve him. I was also leery of hitting off a tobacco product (I've never smoked). I did it anyway, and smoked several hits that were huge in retrospect, and that left my whole chest burning. In total, I smoked maybe half of it, perhaps a little less.

It began pleasantly enough. I didn't feel anything for what seemed like a while, until I started looking around, and remarked with a demented whisper, "The world is so *big*." They fucked with me like that for a while, asking me why that was so, and I could only repeat it over and over. Then, suddenly my ears started ringing, and I dry-heaved several times. When I was able to convince D that I could go inside without getting sick (it was cold, and I was now shaking uncontrollably), we went back inside.

This is where the real shit started. I laid down on D's bed, and then started grabbing the end of his bed for dear life. I felt like I was moving--*fast*--and if I closed my eyes I felt like I was falling--"falling into nothing", like I told them. The room seemed enormous, like the size of a cathedral. D's features were undistorted but *felt* so, if that makes any sense. I was terrified, and tears were running down my face. E and J got weirded the fuck out, and decided it was time to drop me off at home.

Here is where the story gets hard to follow. I barely remember the drive home, except that it seemed to take *forever*. Though we were at the speed limit, the car felt like it was going hundreds of miles an hour, like an accident were imminent. Moments of semi-lucidity were separated by intervals in which I was entirely unable to separate reality and fantasy, where I didn't know where the hell I was, when I couldn't control the words coming out of my mouth. I switched between laughing maniacally at nothing, and crying or groaning. I remember saying at one point something like "Madness...like holding back an avalanche!", and things like "How can you live in a cold universe that's so *big*?" E and J got even more freaked out, and J kept telling me to stay "clear", but I still yo-yoed between vivid hallucinations, paranoia, and semi-clarity. Queries as to whether the weed was laced were greeted with disdain and astonishment; he'd had no problem, he told me.

E and J made sure I got into my apartment okay once they dropped me off. By now I was shaking badly, and breathing rapidly. Walking around the apartment didn't help. I tried to look something up online, but the words were impossible to follow, and even writing a URL was herculean. Television was incomprehensible, plastic characters and meaningless action. I felt completely disconnected from my actions: I imagined doing things before I did them, or doing them again afterwards, as if I did them two or three times, and it was hard to tell when I did them or when I was hallucinating. My body felt like an eighteen-wheeler that took forever to do anything, that was impossibly slow.

Before I did my nightly hygiene, I looked at myself in the mirror. My eyes were red as hell, and my mouth was bone-dry. I decided to sleep it off, which was easier said than done. It took me a long time to go to sleep, as I still felt cold, still shook, still felt headlong, spinning motion whether my eyes were closed or open. But, I managed it.

As I write this, I'm still feeling some aftereffects, but I'm at least functional. I think for once I'll take my E and J's advice, and not do this shit again--God bless you other stoners, but it's probably not for me. Christ, I had no idea that could fuck you up like that; if a bad acid trip is ten times worse, I'd probably be a dead man.

Later days, all.

P.S.--In retrospect, I'm guessing an adverse reaction to the nicotine was responisble in part...
 
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n, dont feel bad. That happens even to us stoners when we dont smoke for a long time. When youre a stoner and you know its comin, even if you stop for a year or so and get a crazy, "first time" experience all over again, you still like it, cuz youre a stoner, so ya just roll wit it.

But If you aint someone who loves the weed or are one of them ppl who weed makes you real anxious, paranoid, etc, then its easy to get bugged out instead of lettin the feelings just wash over ya. Its aight, some ppl just mad sensitive to the shit.

To each their own, the shit that youre describin, im noddin my head like 'yea,.....yea.....yea....wow, sounds sick!" LOL. and you were prolly stressin like "aw please let it end." All that stuff is the fun part of not smokin for a while, to me. that feeling of time bein totally distorted so you dont know if a minute or a hour passed, or what i always called "frame vision" when you move, but you see everything like its in slow motion, slowed down so you see each "frame" like its a movie or somethin. but if you dont enjoy that feelin, then it would be pretty bad i guess to feel out of control like that.

basically what im sayin is gettin THAT high , like first-time, so-high-its-like-trippin high, can be pretty crazy. when you like the feeling , it dont bother you, ya just go wit the flow and let it come over you and take you away to wherever its goin, cuz you know that its all good. and you know that in a hour or two youll be comin down, chillin, just feelin kinda stoney and baked, and the most youll be worried about is findin some oreos or pizza or doritos or lasagna and watchin 12 oz mouse on TV. When you dont like the feelin, its like youre gettin kidnapped by the high, and its takin over you and flyin you away to some crazy loop-thought-land where nothin makes sense and everything is distorted and wild n shit.

Haha, i remember when i was 13 and tried smokin the first couple times, thinkin i was another person, and i would talk in my own voice, then talk in the other voice of the "other person" who i was also at the same time, LOL. that shit wasnt scary but it was weird as hell doe.

That aint no laced weed, its just the effects of a phatty phatty blunt, on someone who aint smoked for mad long, so you got high as shit. Basically, sounds like ya just smoked too much holmes. Its aight now doe, right? So maybe next time ya smoke, try just takin a couple hits, or just stick to the drugs that chill ya out instead of bug ya out. :)
 
Belisarius said:
Through a series of unusual events, I had the opportunity last night to get stoned for the first time in ages, and only the third time in total Two friends (E and J) and I went to a mutual friend's house (D); I bought a blunt that D rolled, and then E, J, and I split it outside.

D said that the stuff was really, really strong (hydro), and I had no reason to disbelieve him. I was also leery of hitting off a tobacco product (I've never smoked). I did it anyway, and smoked several hits that were huge in retrospect, and that left my whole chest burning. In total, I smoked maybe half of it, perhaps a little less.

It began pleasantly enough. I didn't feel anything for what seemed like a while, until I started looking around, and remarked with a demented whisper, "The world is so *big*." They fucked with me like that for a while, asking me why that was so, and I could only repeat it over and over. Then, suddenly my ears started ringing, and I dry-heaved several times. When I was able to convince D that I could go inside without getting sick (it was cold, and I was now shaking uncontrollably), we went back inside.

This is where the real shit started. I laid down on D's bed, and then started grabbing the end of his bed for dear life. I felt like I was moving--*fast*--and if I closed my eyes I felt like I was falling--"falling into nothing", like I told them. The room seemed enormous, like the size of a cathedral. D's features were undistorted but *felt* so, if that makes any sense. I was terrified, and tears were running down my face. E and J got weirded the fuck out, and decided it was time to drop me off at home.

Here is where the story gets hard to follow. I barely remember the drive home, except that it seemed to take *forever*. Though we were at the speed limit, the car felt like it was going hundreds of miles an hour, like an accident were imminent. Moments of semi-lucidity were separated by intervals in which I was entirely unable to separate reality and fantasy, where I didn't know where the hell I was, when I couldn't control the words coming out of my mouth. I switched between laughing maniacally at nothing, and crying or groaning. I remember saying at one point something like "Madness...like holding back an avalanche!", and things like "How can you live in a cold universe that's so *big*?" E and J got even more freaked out, and J kept telling me to stay "clear", but I still yo-yoed between vivid hallucinations, paranoia, and semi-clarity. Queries as to whether the weed was laced were greeted with disdain and astonishment; he'd had no problem, he told me.

E and J made sure I got into my apartment okay once they dropped me off. By now I was shaking badly, and breathing rapidly. Walking around the apartment didn't help. I tried to look something up online, but the words were impossible to follow, and even writing a URL was herculean. Television was incomprehensible, plastic characters and meaningless action. I felt completely disconnected from my actions: I imagined doing things before I did them, or doing them again afterwards, as if I did them two or three times, and it was hard to tell when I did them or when I was hallucinating. My body felt like an eighteen-wheeler that took forever to do anything, that was impossibly slow.

Before I did my nightly hygiene, I looked at myself in the mirror. My eyes were red as hell, and my mouth was bone-dry. I decided to sleep it off, which was easier said than done. It took me a long time to go to sleep, as I still felt cold, still shook, still felt headlong, spinning motion whether my eyes were closed or open. But, I managed it.

As I write this, I'm still feeling some aftereffects, but I'm at least functional. I think for once I'll take my E and J's advice, and not do this shit again--God bless you other stoners, but it's probably not for me. Christ, I had no idea that could fuck you up like that; if a bad acid trip is ten times worse, I'd probably be a dead man.

Later days, all.

P.S.--In retrospect, I'm guessing an adverse reaction to the nicotine was responisble in part...

You simply had a bad high. It happens sometimes. I've had a few. Personally, I wouldn't swear off the weed for good. It could be that E and J were not the type of people you wanted to be hanging around with, among a multitude of other possible reasons why you had a lousy experience. Whatever you do, good luck!
 
Thanks much...I'm thinking the worst of it was probably due to nicotine from the cigar wrapping. But the guy said it was strong shit--hydro, I think.

I'll be much more careful in the future.
 
I know that spinning sensation, it can get bad-trippy sometimes when you're trying to sleep or when it's just too powerful.
 
Hm, that's strange. I've been using weed to keep me from killing myself for, oh, about 7 years. It's always worked just fine.
 
i've had similar experiences mate. it's just VERY heightened anxiety. as someone said they are like loop thoughts that get more and more intense and ofcourse the mind is an extremely suggestable thing. i've felt all the things you've described; the 'falling' sensation, for me as if if i lose concentration my heart will stop lol, paranoia about even good friend's motives etc. amd just general unpleasant distortions of reality. all off weed. i smoked a good portion of a blunt once in an unfamiliar guy's flat with my mate. probably just because i wasn't entirely comfortable and it was VERY potent stuff i went very paranoid and couldn't really function properly ialmost as badly as you did. it doesn't feel it at the time, it feels irreversable, but the paranoia CAN be overcome by just accepting it as part of weed's effect and succumbing to it!! if it's not for you then i can respect that as i've felt like that myself before but look at it this way: being incredibly drunk is one of the most unpleasant feelings ever, but in moderation alcohol can be very enjoyable. same with weed. i have a low tolerance to it and probably you are the same. a small joint is a nice buzz for me. for me there is a threshold kind of thing. if i have a bit and am stoned and relaxed for a while THEN i might smoke a fair bit more. i often just like chilling out on my own with some skunk as it makes me far too lethargic to do much else lol but i do enjoy that as it also makes creative in other respects. but having a shitload in one go after you havn't had it for a long time is a recipe for going white!! don't let that single experience put you off for good though!
 
Good report. Sorry about your bad high. It happens to most people who have been smoking a while (and to some that havent been very much at all). THC is an amazingly powerful psychedelic drug if the dose reaches a certain level.. and if it "wants" to be. I've been smoking for about a decade now and I still never underestimate it.. regard it as I would any other psychedelic, just on a more mild level when done in moderate doses. But if youre going big.. youre going big, and you gotta be ready for potential mind-bending effects.
 
Same thing happened to me in april just quit probation and didnt smoke for 9 months. Smoked a blunt with my friend, i felt like i was tripping, for real. It was a bad trip though, heart racing spinning, paranoria. It wasnt the blunt wrap , even if it was a nicotine buzz only lasts a few mins. It was def the weed. After that i just took two or three hits of weed whenever I smoked , eventually like a week later i was back to smoking blunts , by myself. So dont give up on Mary
 
morninggloryseed said:
I've never had that happen with pot, so I don't believe it happened to you or anyone else. Ya'll just tellin' stories.

Are you being sarcastic or something? I have experienced similar feelings and experiences from weed. Marihuana, when my tolerance is low, is a total-mind blowing psychedelic with OEV and CEV visuals. Those people aren't making up stories. In any case, that was a good read and interesting thread. This week-end, I bought a gram of high-grade weed after not smoking for couple of days. Before I packed my first bowl, I got rid of my excitment by meditating. I took one hit and waited two minutes before taking another and so on, while in-between taking deep and slow puffs of air. After about 10 or 15 minutes, and only 5 puffs, my bowl was still full, but I felt high enough, just the right balance. When I am all excited and keep on toking, toking and toking, I get high and stupid and always try to finish the bowl. Therefore, finishing my bowl could have just lead to negative side-effects. Whenever it's alcohol, LSD or marihuana, consumed wrongly, they can all lead to negative experiences. Play it safe... and remember, if you do drugs, you will eventually have a bad trip someday. You can't always predict everything. That is part of the "game".
 
morninggloryseed said:
I've never had that happen with pot, so I don't believe it happened to you or anyone else. Ya'll just tellin' stories.

what an incredibly arrogant thing to say. who the fuck would lie about having a bad drug experience?
 
yea that was some dumbass shit to say. you think everyone in this post is lying or how about all the people who posted bad trips on erowid.
 
And a hilarious and piercing insight into marijuana's image in contemporary drug culture it was too.8(
 
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