[Bad Trip Subthread] Have You Ever Had a Bad Trip?

[Demonslayer]

Something to consider is how much you trip and how experienced you are. After tripping hundreds of times with frequency, I can snap myself out of a trip pretty easily with most things and most doses. But whenh I started tripping, or really before I started tripping a lot, there was no way. When I tripped I would be completely immersed in another world, no chance of snapping out. No way.

Experience was the thing I was talking about. The first time I drank alcohol I puked red wine and potato chips all over the place, made a fool of my self and really had a terrible time. This was of course not the last time this happened, but after a while I started to learn how alcohol works, where and when it should not be used, and how to deal with dosage and side effects.
Niether alcohol or psychedelics are uncontrollable unless you believe them to be. Many people act like idiots after only a couple of drinks since they believe that alcohol makes them idiots, while others act like themselves because they know that their own brain is always in control of their actions and thoughts.
Ok, you can fall down and pass out, and end up in the hospital getting your stomach pumped. But you are'nt going to hit someone or throw stones at passing cars if your not an idiot to begin with.

I've tripped between 20 and 30 times on shrooms and LSD over the last 19 years, about 10 times with salvia, some DMT, Morning glory and NO2 at times. So I don't trip often and frequency varies a lot. I do try not to trip when I'm down, but sometimes it really helps to put things into perspective with some shrooms when you really feel like life is a piece of shit. I've stopped tripping at parties since it's just a waste of good mushrooms, it dosn't work for me any longer.
Being out in the forrest, specially in the middle of winter is magic to me. The clear black sky and the absolutt quiet is really awesome. The best is when the temp drops to about -10 and I have a good fire going beside a lake. When the ice cracks, it makes these deeps booms that go right though your body.
But for the most part I try to trip alone at home where I can choose how to mould my own trip, I hate having to play social games with sober people when I'm tripping.
Ego death is beautiful but it's terrifying to start with. It really feels like your gonna die. I have several times tried to check for my pulse while experiencing this, the fact that I'm still standing on my feet should be a good indicator of life, but I'm still not convinced I'm not dead.
I often get floods of emotion that make me feel like my heart is physically bieng ripped out of my chest.

I think it is way to easy to lable something as a bad trip just because you had to deal with some feelings or memories, or because you did something stupid. If you're not experienced you should have complete control of your enviorment and you should have someone there who's done it before and will support you. After a while of getting to know yourself and the substance, you will be less prone to panicing. Loosing that sensible cognetive control over your thoughts and emotions isn't bad, it just feels like it the first couple of times you experience it. Then you discover that there is only you inside your brain and that you don't have to fear it.

 

[dread]

Yep. I was on acid, and I was convinced that my life was just my imagination, that everything was in my head, I was actually lying in coma somewhere and just imagined that I was still here doing acid. I could "remember" myself going crazy after I took acid, and after I went catatonic the ambulancemen came and took me to the mental hospital, where I had been lying in bed for the last 40 years, just imagining that I was still living my life.

Eventually I convinced myself that never happened.

 

[Changed]

DOC, I'll never touch that shit again. I thought I was dying, the devil was coming to rape me through the television. I was literally crying to a picture of the virgin mary on my friends wall, pleading jesus to save me.

 

[heavymetalroller]

I've had one bad trip on shrooms. I'd done shrooms twice prior (2/3 of an eighth the 1st time, an eighth the second time). For our third time we each consumed an eighth. The come up was fun but things started to get ugly when we started peaking. It felt like they were at least twice as intense as the last time I did an eighth.

The couch's colors were melting into just a big pool of color, the floor looked like blue liquid/paint, and the ceiling was rolling in colored waves. I saw a mouth in the back of my roommates head and all kinds of crazy stuff. I was extremely uncomfortable and didn't like to get up.

I've had a couple of horrible Salvia trips as well. I've never had a bad acid trip.

 

[hexxx]

I don't really know how people have really bad trips on shrooms because I've eaten bags and bags of the stuff (15g max) and never really freaked out, just got really, really sick and saw lots of weird stuff but it's not as psychological. Acid's another story. As a very experienced person I've had problems holding it together from 1 microdot, but they were notoriously bad. There were dots going around called stars and the most I ever heard of someone taking was 3, but these were people that would take 10 strong blotters where most of my sane friends would only take 1 or 2 each and just manage to keep it together. We get really, really fresh stuff around here. Rumoured to be very close to a source and I've noticed the longer you keep stuff the weaker it becomes. Especially blotters.

Anyway these dots were so bad that people would refuse to buy them because you can't split them, I don't know if you guys have ever tried to split a dot. It's impossible not to mention it's not equally distributed. Anyways one of my friends took one of these for his 3rd or 4th trip and was convinced that he was going to die because he was having an asthma attack. He was a bad asthmatic but he was obviously freaking the fuck out, I also have asthma but not that bad. Took like 8 hours to calm him down. I was almost freaking at the same time because I thought that this guy was going to kill himself by collapsing his lungs or something and picturing having to tell his parents and all sorts of hectic images flashing through my head. Sometimes it's impossible to get someone down to ground level and it's definitely related to how much they've / you've taken. They come right when it wears off.

99.9% of my trips I get reckless and the opposite of paranoid, I just don't give a fuck, but then I dose quite well and make sure I don't take too much.

If people somehow plant an idea and let it take grow they can go into psychosis because of that. When I was a newbie I freaked out because I was in a club and thought everyone was talking about me and laughing and the bouncer was gonna come and chuck me out. Now that I've tripped probably upwards of 70 times, if I think about it, I'll see it in my peripheral vision happening and actually start laughing. But then again it's dosage related, if I take too much I'd probably freak out.

Only thing that scares me is smoking a joint when I'm peaking after you haven't smoked in say 2 weeks. It combines and just gets too much. If you start off tripping and smoking that's fine, I just won't do it in the middle because then I will lose the plot. It's too much at the same time, I'm less anxious tripping than I am smoking for some reason as well. I don't like smoking and the smoke in my face which is probably a reason, even though I smoke cigarettes sometimes.

The worst thing you can do to someone while they tripping is to tell them they're breathing manually. Because then they think about it too much. I saw someone write it on 420chan and thought about it and it's actually true, something like that would make an inexperienced person freak. Especially my friend that was freaking out on that dot.

 

[twentysix]

I have had two fucking horrible trips. It all started when i was at work...hence the title "tripping balls in a bad place". I was working security in a real desolate area and my shift started at 8:00 PM and ended at 6:00 AM. I was usually alone, but this night, i had 3 of my friends come and chill cuz we had all thrown in on a bunch of blotters. while each of the people i was with were eating one blotter, waiting 2 hours and then eating another one, i ate 4 and a half all at once, and to somebody whose only tripped on acid several times...yea i was in for it. Everything started out pretty fuckin funny, we were all laughing our asses off, waving ciggarettes in front of our faces and letting things start to happen. One thing led to another and everything started getting really, really loud and annoying...to where i was screaming at the top of my lungs at my best friends, telling them to shut the fuck up and all this. Everyone started seperately going nuts, we were all on different planets (me being the furthest away). Soon enough, a police officer shows up, asking us all kinds of crazy questions like "why are you guys here?" "what are you doing?" "what's in the cooler?" why is your friend in the middle of the street in a lawn chair? I am standing no farther than a foot away from the driver's side window of the cop car, trying to explain that i was running security and i was actually doing a pretty good job, considering that my heart was pounding soooo fast and this cop's face was growing and shrinking a vivid green beard, his eyes were acting like spinning globes, and his hand that was chillin on the car door had fingers that would stretch and reach the ground...which was waving profusely. ok, so while i was explaining what i was doing, my buddy that was sitting in the lawn chair in the middle of the road, starts looking around all crazy (he definitely looked like he was trippin) and he starts shouting "DUDE, WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON?" over and over again...i knew we were FUCKED...or atleast i was. The cop looks at me for a solid 5 seconds, then looks at my other buddy for another 5 seconds, and says "...umm...you guys have a good night, be safe..." i couldnt believe it. you would have thought things got better after the cop left, but they didnt...i was still so pissed at everyone i was with because they were all soooo incontrolable. the kid in the lawn chair pissed his pants because he thought nothing was real, his cousin kept phrasing and re-phrasing how he pissed himself and its all i heard for the rest of the night. somehow we all ended up at denny's around 7:00 AM and everything was alright, i was still trippin tho.

The other trip wasnt as bad, but it was under the influence of approx. 10-11 hits of blotter. to make a long story short, i was the only person tripping in a group of 12-15 people.

Acid is a very powerful thing...i wouldnt even call it a drug, cuz its just crazy. Ive watched grown men curl into the fetal position and cry harder than ive heard anyone cry...or scream for that matter, begging God to "make it stop, please make it stop". The only thing you can really do is ride the fuckin roller coaster man...you asked for crazy, and now you'll fuckin get crazy

that's one crazy story... I enjoyed the read, but I imagine it was INSANE for you.


I won't go into mine, because I just don't care to think about any of them right now.. I never consider them "bad"... but I've had difficult trips. Once, I convinced myself I had a lung collapse.. maybe did.

 

[L2R]

pete nasty, that actually sounds like a good night

 

[L2R]

^^^ and you didn't go back up? Look the things produced by drugs are in your head I agree. But, in the sense of whether it is good or unsettling. You cannot just will a drug to stop having an effect on your mind. Especially not something as powerful as shrooms or mushrooms. I am sorry but I just do not believe you. I have a feeling others would agree.

i have willed myself out of a bad (strong) trip, without it coming back. It took mental effort but it worked. I was left with a bitch of a headache though.

 

[missvee]

I've had a few "bad trips" but now I guess looking back, I just see them more as learning experiences. I have learned alot about myself after a few wicked shitty trips, and I've taken it with me in my everyday life. So I guess I'm grateful for them after all.

 

[DivineMomenT]

My worst trip was on shrooms. It was at a time when me and my friends had access to a field that would yield pounds upon pounds when the conditions were right. I made some coolaid that was WAY too potent. When I closed my eyes, I would see mushrooms that were laughing at me. I thought I was going to die and the laughing mushrooms weren't helping. They were laughing at me because they had killed me.

I recently had a semi bad trip on acid. There was way too much hectic going on in my life at the time and I got trapped in a loud club environment. Fortunately, I was able to take control of the trip, so it wasn't too bad for too long. When I started freaking out, I drank a beer, and then another. It helped tons. It was just another experience really. I got a bit too confident, and I tripped when I shouldn't have been tripping.

 

[DOHP]

I never have had a bad trip yet. However when I try to sleep on acid ...etc. My overactive mind wanders and I get strong visual images in my head of the most horrifying things imagainable.

On the comedown of one trip (5 strong tabs) I tried to sleep and after 5'ish minutes a scene popped into my head of a dark plain room, and in the center of it was a massive organic wall which was made of a gigantic slab of dark blue rotting flesh; and the front of this wall was covered with loads of eyes, all different shapes and sizes. Some of them looked lifeless and tired like they were dying with their eyelids drooping down and eyes staring blankly into the distance; while others were looking straight at me looking into the very depths of my soul. That was fucking terrifying, I didn't end up sleeping that night!

 

[DOHP]

The image that I mentioned above:

As soon as i've finished it I will post it up in the psychedelic art gallery. I'm looking forward to having a look at the finished artical when on a heavy acid trip! :D

 

[Amberthefrog]

^ Neat.

No, I wouldn't say I have ever had a bad trip. I've had a couple of very difficult trips, parts of which were very bad. Overall though they were very worthwhile. My most rewarding trips by far have been difficult. Sometimes I can take mushrooms and if i'm in a certain mood, I will just have a very nice energetic and to a degree hedonistic trip. Other times I will get blown away a bit but learn a lot along the way.

The only unrewarding experience I have had with psychs was ingesting a small dose of mushrooms. This gave me nausea and some basic stimulation, sort of like a come up. It wasn't strong enough to breakthrough though so I was at a stimulated and nauseous +1 for about five hours, which was neither pleasant or rewarding. Not really a trip as such though.

 

[Salviasca]

Hallo

I had Trips where i had fear at one pount, but it allways turned out good, if i just let go and surendered.

I think thats a big point surrender, if you dont surrender, then mostly you fight in some way or you dont relax and then mor"shit" comes your way but if you just surrender to the plant then everything will go okey

Just my humble experience

 

[Blush]

Bad trips and hope?

I don't know if I even labeled it correctly as hope...but I get tempted every time any of my friends sheds light about their amazing psychedelic experiences. I've tripped on several occasions and I find that my feelings, anxieties, and overall way of being becomes tainted even more. I tripped about 5x and starting out I didn't really do too much, in fact I barely felt anything and felt slightly nervous about my situation (not that I was on drugs, but family situations that were happening during that time). I have to say that my last two trips were more terrible than badly manageable... I just feel like doing psychedelics is just a lost cause for me to enjoy any insightful experiences. Does any feel different about this? Have you ever felt like that and magically enjoyed a spiritual journey?

 

[amor fati]

Can't say I have. But my advice to you would be hold off on tripping until your at a point of your life that you are completely comfortable with. Other than that try and look at what set you off on your other trips and address those issues

 

[swilow]

^Excellent advice. Some people just don't take to psychedelics; or it could just be your general life circumstances at the moment. Take some time before diving back in...

 

[rickolasnice]

Set and setting

 

[Salviasca]

Hi Blush

for me there are many Reasons why your trips are not as you have hoped them to be, for instance, if you taking the Psychedelics in a Place wher you dont feel confortable, that could be a Reason that you have a bad trip. Also there are some people that trip better only with one person.

I woud suggest take a break and feel wich kind of set fells best to you wich kind of Setting did you have the last time??

Bye Salviasca

 

[B9]

Take a break until your mindset is different & then try to go into the trip without any expectations.