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Bad trip or real insanity?

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I recently had I VERY bad trip on LSD. Firstly, I consider myself an experienced tripper having taken lsd about 10+ times and mushrooms far more (also research chems). However, the trip in question was nothing like even the worst of these, I was fully delusional, hit friends (thought one was the devil), took of all my cloathes and ran about in public, drank a bottle of acid and was lucky to end up in hospital not dead. I was honestly on a diffrent planet, imagining millions of far fethched things to be happening (such as a terrorist attack, or my whole life being a dream). I recoverd the minute I stoped tripping, but am woried that if I take acid again I will go back to this psychotic state. I like acid and want to do it again. Not only this but I'm usualy quite rational on psychedelics compared to some people. However, I am woried that this is somehow indicates that I am not entirly mentally stable and that if it happened again it might push me over the edge for good. Has anything like this happened to anyone else. How woried should I be?
 
i had a bad trip somewhat into my first lsd trip and thought the same as you .. didnt do it for ages and tbh imo it is just your own perception of it and how you think about it that will cause it to be so .. whether you go into another bad trip from the outset next time ..

things ive tried since .. low dose .. enough to see whats happening how im feeling .. also in my case to see if any lasting visuals ("hppd") would linger .. anyhow in the end i come to the conclusion that lsd aint really for me .. it messes with my head too much so ill move onto pastures new and probably go for something like 2cb from now on ..
 
wow that sounds like a VERY BAD TRIP. My advice would be to stop all acid intake for at least 3 months.. When you have a major bad trip it really will wreak havock on your mind.

There could be some lasting effects from this that you are not aware of yet. If you feel like you are in someway hurt from this experience please go to the doctor and seek help.

If / when you decide the time is right to trip agin. Take a very small dose and see how you feel. And space your trips out allot longer. Your mind needs time to heal.

-Altrez
 
that definitly sounds like a psychosis, and bad trips don't usually make people psychotic. your fears of returning to a psychotic state are very real, and it's up to you if you want to chance it. as they say, start with a very low dose if you decide to dose again. good luck
 
Similar, I know that on my worst of trips (3 hits of acid + 4grams of mushrooms) i went into psychosis, was out of my mind insane, thoughts traveling 100 miles per hour, thought i was going to die, my girlfriend was (i found out actually fairly recently) fighting with aliens inside her head.. I was in tears for hours, ended up in the hospital.

I was skeptical about taking hallucinagens again, but I hippieflipped a month later and that was okay... unfortunately now I always have this thought process that I took to much and am going to die. THe last time though, I took 2 hits of week acid, and smoked pot, and I had a flashback... truly terrifying, my girlfriend talked me down after about 5 minutes but it was right back up there from that night. Very scary.

Basically what Im saying is once you have that one expeirnace its quite possible unfortunately that you could have it again. Best bet if you want to trip, have some emergency benzos laying around.
 
When i got my first bad mushrooms trip, i was scared to do shrooms again. I downed an 8th and that familliar terrible feeling crept over me an di kinda went to that place again, but not as deep. I then started taking lower doses like 1 gram to 2, and now im comfortable on them again. Try taking small doses untill you fill your better.
 
I have just recently come down from an unknown amount of LSD... probably in the range of 4-8 hits of very strong and fresh Fluff (Ohms and Self-Portraits) plus about 4 strong rolls.

It turned into a three day schizo-affective completely paranoid trip.

Now I am feeling better. Don't worry, hardcore trips can really shock your system and give you post traumatic shock symptoms. Most likely you'll recover, but probably with a greater aversion for munching strips and downing vials of LSD.

Oh, and to answer your question: YES, a trip can turn into very real insanity. There is brilliance to be found in aspects of insanity. Determine how much insanity you can handle. If you go over your personal limits you risk holding on to a bit of that insanity for longer than you might have bargained for.
 
Well I went into what could probably be described as a psychotic episode on 3.5 grams of potent mushrooms. Thought friends were calling the cops, thought I was in a cartoon that was mocking my life, thought the walls were closing in, etc. The next time I took mushrooms, I had a small amount of the same feelings; it got scary, but I was able to control them. Now my shroom trips are fine. I would say, give it a couple months, then dose at a smaller level. Confront your fears head on, and I think within a year you should be just dandy.
 
My first 5x Salvia breakthrough I would call psychosis. At first I saw this wheel thing. I could feel my world change quickly and soon I "gave into" the hallucination. I immediately forgot I had smoked or what I was doing as I entered an intensely delusional Sally-D state. I stood up and then heard this woman's voice chanting some phrase over and over. That freaked me out, so I rushed to put the gravity bong away. The whole time my vision was covered in "totums". Everything I look at, looked like this totum. My brain was registing objects as being different than what they were. It was night so I could see the little totums everywhere quite clearly. Very unlike any type of visuals I had seen before.

After I finished babbling to my neighbors I thought were there, I went in my house. I was still seeing the totums but I knew it was just a hallucination.

I had no choice now but to wait for the weird Salvia feeling to pass. The feeling felt errie to me and subsided in 15-20 minutes.

If someone had been there to remind me I was tripping it would have gone better I imagine.
 
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The trick to staying sane is not to take the thought as your thought. As an awareness you just watch the thought form, hang out, and then fade. Getting into good/bad insane/sane is a dead end, in my experience.
 
LSD IS INSANITY. At least for me. It's fucking fuuuuun though! Most of my lsd trips have been spent wandering around my town on foot... Usually end up in neighbors yards at like 4AM staring in amazement at their awesome trees and shit.. God... LSD IS INSANITY... It will take me a while ot build up courage to eat the two hits i'm sitting on right now, but when I do... I KNOW I WILL GO BATSHIT CRAZY... it's gonna rock... june 29th... :D
 
Thanks for all the responses, makes me feel a bit more sane to hear that some other people have had similar expieriences.
However, I'm not quite sure you get what I'm saying psychetool.
psychetool said:
LSD IS INSANITY. At least for me. It's fucking fuuuuun though!
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I always go a bit loopy on lsd. My emotions get magnified and I do a few irational things. Its just I usually know right from wrong and that I'm just tripping. In this case I wasn't just wondering about staring at things, I was running around naked thinking it was the end of the world or I was dreaming. The most worying thing is that I chased after some poeople, naked, apparently asking for sex, and tried to assualt a police man. Considering the amount of acid and weed I had on me, I'm lucky to have got away with a caution. The thing is I'm not usually violent or particularly forward about sex. Also, I don't remember really being attracted to any of the people, more shit scared that I was going to die and that I had to do this to save myself/the world. I'm definatly going to be staying away from halucenogens for a good few months, though it's going to be hard considering how much acid there is in my home town at the mo.
 
^^ How you carrying your bud and LSD if you were naked ? Running around with it in hand ? lol... sounds a lil fishy =p
 
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^^ How you carrying your bud and LSD if you were naked ? Running around with it in hand ? lol... sounds a lil fishy =p
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That's quite suspicious of you. If you must know I had an undisclosed amound of hash under my bed. The bed that the police draged me of. I think they where too suprised by my nakednes to think about searching my room.
 
>>... it's gonna rock... june 29th... >>

Why've you decided to trip on my birthday? :)
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Anyway, I have a bad trip that repeats...I can't really do psychedelics or smoke weed comfortably anymore. Maybe in a couple more years...*sighs*...

ebola
 
Precisely why I gave up acid after over a hundred trips. Four truly bad ones made it too scary for me. The longest was 1500 mics, the worst trip on about 700 mics. It is bigger than I am and I will leave it alone forever.
 
I know this is an old thread but for anyones who cares I have come back to hallucinogens. My life is on track and I think I learnt a lot from the experience.

Interestingly, since then I haven't had a bad trip. It's like I've been to the worst place imaginable so there is little fear anymore. Or I have delved into my subconsious and sorted out what fucked me up in the first place. Still have qualms about more than 300mics of acid tho. But 9gs of shrooms and I feel lucid and in control.

Of course I now have more respect. I never trip too often and tend to do a mental check to see if I'm in the right place before droping.

Let the good times role as they say! =D
 
Were you way off track prior to the experience without realising it? Kinda curious.
 
i had a couple trips like that before i was diagnosed with schizophrenia,..,. i thought monsters/aliens/russians were invading - and i thought my entire life was a book so nothing i did mattered.. i did some crazy stuff that i will not repeat.. then later i found that i needed to be on a medium dose of anti psychotics to feel normal... i must have tripped about 50 times in my teen years.. now it's been 8 years without LSD...
 
i have tripped 100+ times in the last year. no bad trips. some neutral, most have been good

everyone is different for sure. i'd say LSD has helped me overcome a lot but it took time and patience of course. sometimes after a good trip you can feel totally lost and confused like everything just fell apart and you have to relearn things so you can put them back together..you begin questioning reality.. this can be good, but too much questioning isn't healthy (thought loops)

i tend to believe a lot of people freak out after strong trips cause they get stuck in these thought loops and obsess over nonsense that basically drive them nuts

i have schizotypal and bipolar, which i had before eating all that acid last year, and i think in some ways doing so has improved my mind and willpower. stimulants, on the other hand, have been really bad for my mental health

know your mind
 
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