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Bad trip on MXE - Need to get it out

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Bone14

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Hi there.

I hope its okay that I post a thread like this, I just need to get the trip out of my mind and someone to talk to about it.

So last night, a friend and I took some MXE, just a bunch of small doses while watching some movies and it all went fine, but in the end I just had too much. I could barely see a meter in front of me, my body just didn't work and was kinda numbed and it was so hard for me to move and get home.

But home I went, and I was lying there in my bed, feeling somewhat clear in my head but my body still numbed and heavy. I looked like a zombie in the mirror and couldn't recognize myself. As I went to bed and turned off the light. It all just went black and had powerful OEV's my heart was pounding full on. I was so afraid, I had to turn on the light again. I felt like I floated between life and dead, thinking maybe the chemical I took wasn't MXE at all because of the mental soberness.

I was only seconds from calling 911 but tried to call myself down. I called my mate and talked to him, and asked about his heart and how fast it was beating, and he said it was also going pretty fast but he felt okay. I told him that maybe I'm just having a panic attack.

But I was afraid of going to sleep, the fear of never waking up scared me like hell or waking up as a vegatable. The fear of having a heart attack because of my insanely rapid heartbeat was terrifying.

In the end I got my self calmed so much down and turned off the light again and feel asleep in 5 minutes waking up and feeling just fine. But the experience was just terrifying that I just have to get it out. I hope its okay.
 
Don't dwell upon it too much, you had a scary drug experience coupled with what sounds like a sort of panic attack (obsessing over heartrate/thinking you're gona die).

Goes to show that drugs can put you in some rather scary places mentally, you'll be ok now, be careful with the drugs =]
 
glad i found this post. literally went through the same thing at a music festival on the weekend. The mdma i had taken had worn off so i decided to do mxe. Everything was fine until we got back to our tents and smoked some weed (usually makes the mxe less intense). I realised the trip was about to go really bad so i went to my tent. I was geting opened eyed visuals whilst having a really unconfrotable feeling that the mdma was going to kill me. The left side of my body felt numb and i thought my heart was beating fast. I knew it as just the mxe but i found my self having conflicts in my mind like "This is just the mxe but then why can't i shake this feeling of dying". My heart felt like it as beating really fast but when i checked my pulse it felt normal.
 
Had a few close calls on MXE like these..
heart starts to pound and feels like it's going to explode and your entire body starts to shake.
I think it's like some sort of breakthrough experience coupled with dosing too high while possibly already in a hole you may not have noticed...
lol

You really start to notice the effects of MXE when laying down in bed alone.
I've had some of my craziest trips that way. Traveled universes and created galaxies and became a god and met god and such. Be careful folks, dose a bit lower and learn the substance a bit more.
Specially try not to mix it with anything unless you are doing tiny tiny doses.

One thing I noticed that helps me keep away from the scary overdoses on MXE is not to dose too high because the high can build on itself... so just take a couple smaller doses and wait for it to come on first instead. Also, do not keep dosing a bunch after you are already holing. this leads to blackouts and contacts with entities and gods etc.
You may not come back from that state and if you do, might be a bit whacked in the brains.

Guinea Pig~
Over and out.
 
taking multiple small doses that add up to a LARGE dose can become difficult like this, as it creeps/builds up without you noticing as easily. (at first, taking 5*15mg doses every 30min may seem about the level of 30-40mg, but its not until after that fifth dose that you realise that some of the effects of a 60-75mg dose are there)

secondly, weed tends to make this chemical more difficult, which is surprising to most, as weed is generally seen as making anything better.
thirdly, MXE is dehydrating. keep well nourished, even if you dont feel your body craving food/water.
finally, ive checked my pulse at the peak of a 35mg dose using a clock, and it was normal. maybe a few beats higher, but nothing like what a lot of other drugs do. the time dilation and dissociation are what makes one think the heartbeat is going crazy
 
Bone14 said:
Hi there.

I hope its okay that I post a thread like this, I just need to get the trip out of my mind and someone to talk to about it.

So last night, a friend and I took some MXE, just a bunch of small doses while watching some movies and it all went fine, but in the end I just had too much. I could barely see a meter in front of me, my body just didn't work and was kinda numbed and it was so hard for me to move and get home.

But home I went, and I was lying there in my bed, feeling somewhat clear in my head but my body still numbed and heavy. I looked like a zombie in the mirror and couldn't recognize myself. As I went to bed and turned off the light. It all just went black and had powerful OEV's my heart was pounding full on. I was so afraid, I had to turn on the light again. I felt like I floated between life and dead, thinking maybe the chemical I took wasn't MXE at all because of the mental soberness.

I was only seconds from calling 911 but tried to call myself down. I called my mate and talked to him, and asked about his heart and how fast it was beating, and he said it was also going pretty fast but he felt okay. I told him that maybe I'm just having a panic attack.

But I was afraid of going to sleep, the fear of never waking up scared me like hell or waking up as a vegatable. The fear of having a heart attack because of my insanely rapid heartbeat was terrifying.

In the end I got my self calmed so much down and turned off the light again and feel asleep in 5 minutes waking up and feeling just fine. But the experience was just terrifying that I just have to get it out. I hope its okay.
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If you need to integrate an experience I suppose here could be considered the wrong place or the right place, not quite sure I'll have to find out.

I'd suggest psychedelic drugs forum to post this in. It would be better suited towards solving any spiritual or existential dillemmas the experience might have left you with.

I'll keep the trip report, and I thank you for the submission and grant you good luck and devoted prayer towards finding that demon you awoke and stomping the living shit out of him.

Godspeed.


Thou
 
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I thank you for the submission and grant you good luck and devoted prayer towards finding that demon you awoke and stomping the living shit out of him.
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I like the cut of your jib.

OP, you did the right thing. Sometimes it feels better to get a trip out of your mind by putting it down on paper and TR is the place for it. You may even teach someone to be careful with the drug in question. Cheers.
 
Said jib was skillfully cut using a straight razor a snail had recently passed over, and survived.

It was my dream, it was my nightmare...
 
I can totally see a reasonably high dose of MXE being a traumatic experience if you're not prepared for it. I'm quite experienced with dissociatives but on a high dose of MXE there are definitely times when the intensity and strangeness of it gets towards the limits of what I can comfortably handle. In the end I can always remind myself that I meant to get to this place, and that I'll definitely come out of it again - but that assurance only comes from experience.

OP, it's a cliche but time is a great healer, and you will integrate the experience I'm sure. Writing about it was probably a good move. You may even want to try MXE again at some point - this time safe in the knowledge that you always come down, no matter how high you get.
 
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OP, it's a cliche but time is a great healer, and you will integrate the experience I'm sure. Writing about it was probably a good move. You may even want to try MXE again at some point - this time safe in the knowledge that you always come down, no matter how high you get.
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What makes you so sure of this? Are you a doctor? With years of MXe study?
I wouldn't tell that to anyone with an unknown chemical.
You can die on MXE... trust me.
Don't ever tell anyone they will always come down no matter how high they get with any drug.
That just seems extremely irresponsible to me.

I think some of you in this thread haven't quite experienced the crazy heart pulsing sensations some of us speak of? I can assure you a normal heart rate would be the last thing observed during such a time..

MXE has a scary way of making you feel like everything is ok that is going on with your body, but I would not count on that to save my life.

You have to remember you might accidentally kill somebody with a statement like that.
Sure a bunch of people make it through scary doses of MXE, but how many don't that you don't hear about because they're sick or injured in a hospital somewhere?
 
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What makes you so sure of this? Are you a doctor? With years of MXe study?
I wouldn't tell that to anyone with an unknown chemical.
You can die on MXE... trust me.
Don't ever tell anyone they will always come down no matter how high they get with any drug.
That just seems extremely irresponsible to me.

I think some of you in this thread haven't quite experienced the crazy heart pulsing sensations some of us speak of? I can assure you a normal heart rate would be the last thing observed during such a time..

MXE has a scary way of making you feel like everything is ok that is going on with your body, but I would not count on that to save my life.

You have to remember you might accidentally kill somebody with a statement like that.
Sure a bunch of people make it through scary doses of MXE, but how many don't that you don't hear about because they're sick or injured in a hospital somewhere?
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Oh piss off you alien worshiping dipshit. You're a fine one to talk about responsibility with all the MXE you constantly ply yourself with. I've never taken more than 65mg - what's your highest dose? And while I'm here, for god's sake stop hitting the damn return key after every sentence you type. You might think your posts are poetic but trust me, they're not.

OP, I wasn't suggesting you try excessive doses if you do return to MXE - but I'm sure you're sensible enough to have realised that.
 
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Sorry just thought I'd make the air clear and crisp..
You're a fine one to talk about responsibility with all the MXE you constantly ply yourself with.
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You may think that, but I haven't had any for a while.
I wouldn't be on here talking about drugs I'm currently messing with.

Try not to get people killed, thanks!
I'm speaking from experience that it's likely you can die no problem on MXE.
I don't care how much you've done.
Your comment was very irresponsible.
 
^ Right, because you've got a job now and are a functioning member of society as you proudly crowed about on another thread. Like I said, piss off. There's the door mate.
 
^ You don't have time for me? That is rich. The amount of crap you spew out about aliens on various threads in PD is incredibly boring and annoying to scroll through, especially as you can't keep your finger off that goddamn return key. I seriously pity people PMing you for advice. They'd be better off emailing David Ike.
 
Eye wide open, why are you so sure that MXE can kill? I mean I'm sure it can, just as anything can, but you make it sound dangerous. I've used quite a bit of MXE in the past 1.5 years and never felt any danger from it. Im almost positive what you experienced was a strong trip. You say you KNOW it can kill but yet you're here talking about it, it didn't kill you and it hasn't killed anyone else (except maybe the supposed dipshit who IV'D it with MDAI, both at very high dose, but we don't have any proof that that actually happened other than a post).
I know that plenty of people have taken doses in the multiple hundreds of mg's and are fine. My highest dose in one go was 150mg with further smaller boosters throughout the night and didnt feel the slightest bit in danger.
 
Dude I've had some extremely scary trips on this stuff that seemed very well beyond the "space type" trips I've loved on it so much. Sounded like some of the trips the other guys in the forums say they have had when they mixed it with alcohol.
Maybe my heart isn't as strong as your guys, I have no idea, but I've had crazy heart rates on this stuff and complete body seizures and "take-overs" and paranoid face sliding overdoses on it. Eyes bugging out of my head and such, gasping for air.

I wouldn't recommend you'd always come back baseline on this stuff.
that's all I'm saying.

Look at me! does it seem like I'm 100% normal after six months of on/off binging on that stuff before stopping?
Hells no. I started trippin' out about aliens and shyt. I never gave a damn about all that before.
I wouldn't say I'm quite the same person.

At the very least you can lose your sanity and fall out a window. Who knows man.
I know you won't always come back perfect from high doses of MXE from what happened to me.
Why would I be here reporting otherwise?

I saw weird entities on DMT and mushrooms and shyt too but something way the hell different took place on MXE that changed me for good. Try and take it easy on that stuff.
we don't really have any idea what it's doing to us.

I've had other dissociatives before.. they didn't exactly do what this did.

the people in here telling me I'm crazy about aliens and seeing god are the people saying they've only done 65mg at a time. How the hell do they know they will always come back?
I didn't come back normal, dudes.
fairly certain MXE has almost killed me more than once, won't touch it anymore.
Love it too, too bad!

sometimes when you get really high on MXE it's easy to redose too much or lose responsibility and just forget the scale one night or you get so high, in my case "you were out of body watching something else redose yourself" while you weren't exactly controlling it.... and were already high as hell in a hole to begin with.

Really weird weird things happen on that stuff I can't explain that make it easy to blur the lines of safety. I figured out I'm not responsible enough to handle it. (yet I can seemingly manage other things just fine)
 
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I think it's pretty safe to say that high doses of MXE can be physically dangerous in a way that K on its own cannot (ludicrously high LD50). Treating MXE like K in terms of dosage led to two of the most shallow-but-unpleasant psychedelic/dissociative experiences I've ever had: suicidal thought loops, dysphoria and anxiety, along with trip-hammering heart-rate and a general feeling of complete disintegration. The day after was much, much worse than anything I've experienced from even insane doses of K: difficulty walking, disrupted speech patterns (sounded like I'd just had a major stroke), inability to even log into a damn email account or figure out how to make realplayer work. The after-effects passed after a bad day and good night's sleep, but it still makes me shudder just to think of them. Admittedly, these were from high-dose misadventures - but low doses were, for me, just a slight K-like tease with no depth by themselves, and the antithesis of synergy with other substances, from weed to kratom. Thank God I didn't mix it with anything heavier: and that I flushed the 3-MEO-PCP before starting into it on MXE (realised I was about to enter mindless drug hoover mode just in time). Tastes vary, of course, but a fair few users I've talked to felt much the same: psychically raped, physically exhausted, and greatly relieved when the effects & comedown wore off. Can't say I shed a tear when they banned it over here, especially after reports of hospitalisations etc. I don't find it remotely hard to believe that unsophisticated use of MXE, even by those with substantial K experience, dosing at high-K levels, could prove fatal, especially if mixed with stimulants.
 
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Where Wolf? said:
I think it's pretty safe to say that high doses of MXE can be physically dangerous in a way that K on its own cannot (ludicrously high LD50). Treating MXE like K in terms of dosage led to two of the most shallow-but-unpleasant psychedelic/dissociative experiences I've ever had: suicidal thought loops, dysphoria and anxiety, along with trip-hammering heart-rate and a general feeling of complete disintegration. The day after was much, much worse than anything I've experienced from even insane doses of K: difficulty walking, disrupted speech patterns (sounded like I'd just had a major stroke), inability to even log into a damn email account or figure out how to make realplayer work. The after-effects passed after a bad day and good night's sleep, but it still makes me shudder just to think of them. Admittedly, these were from high-dose misadventures - but low doses were, for me, just a slight K-like tease with no depth by themselves, and the antithesis of synergy with other substances, from weed to kratom. Thank God I didn't mix it with anything heavier: and that I flushed the 3-MEO-PCP before starting into it on MXE (realised I was about to enter midless drug hoover mode just in time). Tastes vary, of course, but a fair few users I've talked to felt much the same: psychically raped, physically exhausted, and greatly relieved when the effects & comedown worse off. Can't say I shed a tear when they banned it over here, especially after reports of hospitalisations etc. I don't find it remotely hard to believe that unsophisticated use of MXE, even by those with substantial K experience, dosing at high-K levels, could prove fatal, especially if mixed with stimulants.
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Well here's your problem: Treating Methoxetamine like Ketamine. That makes you a dumbfuck.

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/methoxetamine/methoxetamine_dose.shtml
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/ketamine/ketamine_dose.shtml

Dose and durations are far different.
 
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