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Bad Trip on LSD, Would I Be Able To Take Shrooms

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Ok, so my girlfriend took acid with me a couple weeks ago. And after an hour, she starts to repeat every action she does for 4 hours (so she would go to the bathroom, come back in the room, tell me she is hungry, then go to bed, and then she would repeat). I was wondering, is it safe for her to take shrooms? Like is it safer?
 
I've seen people (possibly schizo prone?) get in a reeeaally bad place on acid. For some reason certain people on LSD tend to get stuck in wierd loops. What you described above is almost exactly what happened to my friend.

With shrooms i have never really seen this happen. since the whole trip is only about 4.5 hours even if you did start acting loopy near the end of the trip you would come down quickly.
Also, shrooms just seem to make me, among others, feel as though you're your most natural you. You become the most inner essence of your true being, and it's completely natural feeling to me.
 
Psyke said:
With shrooms i have never really seen this happen.
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ive seen way more people have fun on acid than on shrooms. BUT, it really depends on her personality type. is she very prone to anxiety? shrooms have a way of exacerbating these predispositions in people, i think. that, and the weird tryptamine pressure/body feelings and possible nausea can all compound it.

but yeah, honestly it's hard to tell. a lot of people react better to mushrooms, a lot of people react better to acid. i think if your'e anxiety prone though, that shrooms have the potential to be much scarier.
 
Having taken both quite a few times, I have to say that my worst ever trip (besides Salvia) was on mushrooms so they're not necessarily "safer" imo. I'd say it's mostly dose dependent. Mushrooms can be just as strong or stronger than acid depending on how much you take and vice-versa.

The shorter duration is a plus though, and I'd have her see it she's okay with maybe 2gs of mushrooms before she ever drops acid again.
 
IamMe90 said:
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ive seen way more people have fun on acid than on shrooms. BUT, it really depends on her personality type. is she very prone to anxiety? shrooms have a way of exacerbating these predispositions in people, i think. that, and the weird tryptamine pressure/body feelings and possible nausea can all compound it.

but yeah, honestly it's hard to tell. a lot of people react better to mushrooms, a lot of people react better to acid. i think if your'e anxiety prone though, that shrooms have the potential to be much scarier.
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not really, only when she is sober (she is high practically all day).

Btw, found an article, it says that lsd can trigger schizophrenia. Here,
http://www.schizophrenia.com/newsletter/buckets/drugs.html
 
ive seen way more people have fun on acid than on shrooms
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obviously different strokes for different folks, But with shrooms it would be easier to gauge.

for example: On acid one or two tabs could be an incredibly weak trip, or a mind blowing one.
On Shrooms, you could just take 1 gram or even less the first time and know for sure what you're getting yourself into
 
shady4091 said:
Having taken both quite a few times, I have to say that my worst ever trip (besides Salvia) was on mushrooms so they're not necessarily "safer" imo. I'd say it's mostly dose dependent. Mushrooms can be just as strong or stronger than acid depending on how much you take and vice-versa.

The shorter duration is a plus though, and I'd have her see it she's okay with maybe 2gs of mushrooms before she ever drops acid again.
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Don't worry, we aren't trying it again haha
 
If a difficult experience on lsd has forever turned the both of you away from the chemical, and yet you're considering mushrooms I'd have to recommend you didn't. You can't take only one side of the psychedelic experience, regardless of the exact medium.
 
i can speak for myself on this one. that ive been in a quite a few bad trips and mind loops on both acid and shrooms. but found out on shrooms if i take a dose that im comfortable with i dont have the mindfuck. with acid its different its a hit or miss. shrooms can be a lot stronger than acid at times depending on how you dose.
 
Mushrooms can cause schizophrenia just as acid can, no one can say if she will have a better trip on mushrooms then on acid but to think that mushrooms won't bring out some dormant psychological problem is pure ignorance. Also in my honest opinion I have seen people go absolutely insane on high doses of mushrooms, as in they had to be restrained for 5 hours pretty much. Psychedelics can fuck with someone's psyche and no one here can tell you what will happen to you or your girlfriend if you guys take mushrooms.

Stay safe
 
I find mushrooms to be much more of a mindfuck and easier to have a bad trip on, but that's just me. If she does decide to try them, make sure she takes it slow, maybe starting at 1.5 - 2 grams and see how it goes.
 
Mushrooms are always a much more intense trip for me than acid. I find acid to be a very clear-headed trip, while mushrooms can turn me into a fucking animal. The last time i ever ate mushrooms, i ate a quarter and freaked the fuck out and got naked at a party and ran around wigging out. While i can take 6 or 7 hits of potent acid and have the time of my life sitting under street lights staring at them and doing anything that i please (even going to football games). Alot of my friends are scared to death of acid though and swear by mushrooms. It's honestly all dependent on the person and how they react to certain things. The only way to tell is by experiencing it.
 
yep said:
not really, only when she is sober (she is high practically all day).

Btw, found an article, it says that lsd can trigger schizophrenia. Here,
http://www.schizophrenia.com/newsletter/buckets/drugs.html
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Any drug can trigger a latent mental illness, perhaps earlier than it might have been triggered. They even say that about marijuana. Stress of any kind can trigger a psychotic episode in a person with a looming and severe illness. I've got to wonder how much of the "drugs make you mentally ill" stuff is anti-drug propaganda. I've seen way more depression and anxiety triggered by alcohol and tranquilizer use/abuse. Often with drug abuse and mental illness, the drug use is an intense desire to find a way--any way-- to feel "normal" or "better," and this is known as self-medication. It is a chicken and egg game, frankly.

MOST bad trips on psychedelics--from what I understand, anyway--come from not knowing what to expect. Has she taken psychedelics of any kind before now? Have you considered having something on hand to end her trip early if it becomes uncomfortable? What do you do when she's having trouble? Most people need some reassurance that what they are feeling is normal for the drug, that it is part of the experience, that they will feel "normal" again when it wears off. It can be VERY scary for newbies.

Mushrooms and LSD acted essentially the same for me, but obviously others' mileage may vary.
 
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yep said:
I know that of course, it's based on what kind of person takes it. But I meant like if there are any similar happenings that happened
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No you didn´t know that apparently. Or you wouldn´t have started this thread.

To be more constructive: You want to know if mushrooms are more "mentally safe" than LSD? While mushrooms are easier to dose and have a shorter duration, I still have seen several people end up on anti-psychotic medication after tripping on mushrooms.


Behaviour like what you describe signifies underlying mental issues. I think she should stay completely away from psychedelics, if not forever, then atleast for a couple of years.
It´s precisely people like her who are at risk to suffer the dark side of psychedelic drugs.
 
I have had the loopy things lots of times with mushrooms and only a few times with acid, some people react better to acid and others to mushrooms - it's strange but that appears to happen.

That is not to say she cannot react badly to both, so I would take it into consideration that it can happen again. If you or her can't live with that chance then classic psychedelics maybe aren't for you. Something like 2C-B is probably better suited then, if you want to trip at all.

I agree that it might be a sign of worse things with her, who knows how bad a bad reaction can get. My personal experience will not tell me anything here because I have had the mind loops a lot with mushrooms and find them mentally and emotionally heavy and confusing, I had numerous trips where I thought "how am I ever going to survive this" (in a mental way) but I always did and in ways got stronger every time. I might have gotten lost in other ways though that is a very complex issue - if my mind is more free now or less stable, both happened at the same time.
Don't let this be evidence for you that it will be fine, it still can go wrong.

Can you give some more information about how she described the trip? Because I have been fucked up and confused while tripping but after the peak it always went away. Things I would be very very wary for are more like persisting effects like paranoia or thinking you hear voices call you or shit like that. Those are a no no.
Thought loops can be a natural part of the effect, it is very hard to tell and what matters as well is how she experienced it.
 
How much acid did she take? If it was a small dose (hard to tell I guess) I would advise her not to to do mushrooms, but if she really wants to wait at least another few months. If you do decide to do mushrooms go easy and take something like 0.7g to test the waters.
 
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I have had incredible mind fuck and some thought loops on mushrooms. From what i have read, most people say acid is easier to handle than shrooms. I would steer clear for sure. You are looking for something with less of a mind fuck but still makes you trip out. What you are looking for is probably in the class of 2C's. 2CB,2cI, etc
They supposedly have a mind fuck but much less than acid and shrooms, and have brilliant visuals : P
 
F1n1shed said:
I have had incredible mind fuck and some thought loops on mushrooms. From what i have read, most people say acid is easier to handle than shrooms. I would steer clear for sure. You are looking for something with less of a mind fuck but still makes you trip out. What you are looking for is probably in the class of 2C's. 2CB,2cI, etc
They supposedly have a mind fuck but much less than acid and shrooms, and have brilliant visuals : P
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I will agree with this completely. I think if you invested in some 2c-I or -b,it would worth your while. These two compounds specifically are widely reported to be mentally/emotionally lighter than other psychedelics, while retaining some very nice visual effects. It is of course VERY foolish to assume that your partner would be fine just because others are, but in my personal experience 2c-I is very colorful, visual, and frankly recreational at low to moderate doses than acid or mushrooms, with very little potential for freakouts or Hellish loops. It also becomes more visual much earlier in the dosage curve, another plus. The down side is that it levels off and doesn't ramp up to the same level of depth and spiritual/emotional profundity of many other psychedelics. But, based on the situation you described, is say 2c-I is a great bet. Start small.

Happy tripping
 
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