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Bad trip - has this happened to any of you?

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ecstacii

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Sunday night I tripped on shrooms with a friend, I boiled up about a pound of shrooms, really concentrated, and drank two cups, my friend drank two cups and it was gone. So we both took about a half pound each.
The shrooms kicked in fast...and I mean very fast, 10 minutes at the most. So its cool, you know visuals we're like hell ya check it out da da da. We go to his friend's apartment thats just by his own, and buy a blunt and smoke. I very very rarely smoke weed as well.
I don't feel like typing out the whole trip, but it turned into a bad trip. Every time my friend would say something to me, I thought it meant something different. He would just say normal everyday things to me, and I would think he was talking shit to me, or knew things that I didn't want him to know and he was bringing it up. It got to the point where I pulled a knife on him cause I thought he was hinting to me that he wanted to kill me and that he wanted to.
Do most people think like this during a bad trip, or am I just a fucking nutcase?
 
Dude a half pound of shrooms is a MEAN DOSE! Most people just eat half an eigth and trip balls. Half a pound is insane, next time try a lower dose.
Do you mean half a quarter pound?
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A good trip can easily turn into a bad trip, all it needs is a little nudge the wrong way - they can be spawned from negative conversations or thoughts.
I've had a few great trips that have ended in disaster but I've learnt how to control them and actually turn them into good trips again, it's all about mind discipline.
Also you smoking that weed would have contributed to the bad trip, since weed makes a lot of people paranoid, it could have spawned some paranoia which mixed in with the shrooms to make it even more intense, you should lower the dose, shrooms aren't a toy, you took a hell of a lot.
My suggestion is next time you take shrooms and you feel it beginning to slide into a bad trip, try and turn it around and enjoy it.. so what if you don't understand what your friend is saying, it's a trip! These things are supposed to happen. Go for a walk with him or go to the nearest park and enjoy nature.
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Thanks for the advice all of you.
Get Up Kid - I mean what a said. It was about a half pound, probably more, the back of shrooms was pretty heavy. And I tripped extremly hard, while I was peaking I couldn't talk, or really comprehend what my friend was saying to me. My whole field of vision was nothing but insane swirling colors, and the tv. I was having crazy audio hallucinations. I went outside his apartment and was hearing ambulance sirens that sounded so fucking real that I was accusing my friend of calling the ambulance on me.
suicide - thanks. but thier will be no next time. And about the park thing, my friend tried to get me to go for a walk with him to calm me down, he wanted to go walk by the pool with him but thats about when I thought he was trying to kill me, and I called my brother to come over cause I thought he was going to drown me. Thats when I got the knife.
[This message has been edited by ecstacii (edited 27 July 2001).]
 
Well persnally when i am taking a large dosage of drugs any kind and its just with friends in a house i dotn carry weapons.... i dotn think thats too bright espeically lsd
 
Well first of all you should have a plan for action if you do start to get worried or whatever.. I have my music that I love ready to go, maybe a movie that will take my mind back into something positive etc...
I find I can usually keep my cool no matter how scary my higher trips get, I always have this voice that tells me that I'll be fine, just need to lay down etc...
And man, don't boil your shrooms, at those temps you kill much of the magic, sure you'll get high off of the shit that survives but it will be shorter and usually less visual since psilocybin is mostly destroyed by boiling temps....
Just eat them because its truly a waste of mushrooms to boil them.
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The part about your friend saying one thing and you in your own little world interpreting it differently hit very close to home for me. I was candy flipping on 12 hits of relitively weak blotter, ditto with my friend. It was crazy, almost no matter what he said for a while, i managed to think of in an entirely different and bizarre context. Funny thing was, I was also doing the same thing with the punk lyrics that were in the cd player. scary stuff.
 
Im not accusing you of anything, but that whole pounds of shrooms thing seems liek an odd paradox - Anyoen who could get a hold of that much shrroms would probalby know their dosage (an 1/8 on average) and not decide to blow however many hunreds of dollars in one night... Also, ive got a fair share of Bad Trip stories between me and my friends... I think mine would top 90% of the peopels here, but thats another thread all together...
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Thor, do you think that's why ecstacii took a half pound and lived? I do.
That much psilocybin would have been (nearly) fatal if you just ate the shrooms.
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I also thought have a pound sounded a bit much, but if it was wet weight it maybe more believable... Anyways, yes the boiling probably destroyed a lot of the good stuff anyways, so if they actually just ate that amount of shrooms they would have been off to outer space. A definate level 5.
To die from psilocybin I think you have to eat 1.5 times your body weight fresh... So a half a pound of wet mushrooms is safe, stupid, but safe
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I think its almost impossible to die from psilocybin, its just to unlikely that anyone could even find that much mushrooms and be dumb enough to eat it all.
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http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_chemistry.shtml
280mg/kg = LD50 (mice)
285mg/kg = LD50 (rats)
12.5mg/kg = LD50 (rabbits)
http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_info4.shtml
P.Cubensis = 0.63% psilocybin by weight (I assume fresh, because the book it was ripped from has to do with identification) (and please note I chose Cubensis just because I've seen it most often, please change the calculations to fit your needs using the chart given above)
Soo....if 2.2 lbs = 1 kg (or .454kg per pound)...
.454kg * 0.63% psilocibin = .0028602kg of psilocibin =
2860.2mg of psilocibin. Approx, since I don't know any of the sigfigs involved and don't care to know, seeing as this is all theoretical anyhow.
Enough to kill a 22lb (approx 10kg) rat if it was administed via IV -- or a 228lb rabbit. Anyone know the LD50s on psilocin or baeocystin?
Please double check all numbers and such for yourself if you plan on using them for anything -- I failed calc miserably, passed intro to physics without a problem, and haven't taken a chem course [*sigh*] in my life. I may not be properly understanding a lick of what I'm talking about, but if someone corrects me if I'm wrong, I might learn something, which is my goal for visiting this place in the first place.
(oh, and by the way, to the original poster: if you're boiling down a pound of shrooms to split between you and your friend, please stop using drugs. Reading shit like this scares me -- I'm waaaaaaaaaay good to go on 2 grams of dried mushies)
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*sigh* I got lazy, used P.Cubensis because it's what I'm familiar with. If you want to use this calculation for some of the outdoor 'shrooms, replace the Cubensis stats with baeocystis, cyanescens, semilanceata, stuntzii, and pelliculosa. I'm sure there's more, but do the conversions on your own -- the first one took me 20 minutes -- I'm no roches.
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I have had the same thing happen. 4 years ago, have not touched boomers(shrooms) since. Boiled down 15 grams(dry) between 3 people. Your shrooms HAD to be wet to boil down a elbow(pound). After I peaked I paced my apartment for 6 hours just flippin out. Worst thing I have ever done.
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yeah. i cannot possibly imagine what half a pound DRY would be like. i too have taken 5-5.5 dry grams of strong dry shrooms, and i must say, it was quite the overwhelming experience. be careful!
peace!
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I can't believe I ate the whole thing.
 
Half a pound of fresh shrooms is a hell of alot, but its not hard to belive I don't think. The dosage for fresh shrooms is approx 10 times higher than dry. And I belive ecstacii picks them from the wild (or grows) so its not that surprizing that he had so much.
 
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