Heroin bad side effect of smoking H...

[fizzymk]

Between the last 3 days, I have smoked alot of H...(about 3.5g), I ran out so, went out and got more, havent done any since 9am this morning, so I was starting to feel pretty damn bad..but all day, Ive been coughing, trying to clear my throat, can feel alot of phlegm down throat, the first couple hits in the morning are usually always rough, keep coughing, I have to pinch my nose and mouth so the smoke dont get out, as I try to hold it in as long as possible.

Is there anything that will instantly clear my throat and stop the coughing?

trying to take smaller hits, but hate doing that lol

 

[The Doc.]

I think the best bet is to slow down on the heroin smoking try snorting a bit or something mabye cough medicine would work but there's really no magic cure except to stop smoking.

Sorry

 

[Lorne???]

Yeah, if you continue coughing while you're high that is bad, as H is a very effective cough suppressant.

Guafinesen will help you clear you're lungs, DXM MIGHT HELP(unlikely) but other than not smoking, you can't. Do much about it.

Smoking is terrible for you're lungs, I can't imagine how bad tar is. Have you tried snorting or rectal? I can't speak from experience, but a few studies indicate intranasal and smoking are equivelant(though many users disagree) and Tmax is just 7-10 minutes.(took a little longer for me, though.)

rectal is also very effective with H. It amaze zed me, people say to administer oxycodone rectally, but it sucks that way(taking 2-3 hours to reach full effect, with no BA increase) yet I don't hear anyone saying to try rectal H, which is one of the few drugs(opioids primarily) that is very effective rectally.

Either way, smoking is in advisable if the short term effects are already this bad for you; just imagine the long-term damage it will do.

 

[The Doc.]

Dxm wouldn't be good at all if you have Flhem your throat and lungs cause its a cough suppressant meaning the mucas will build up in your lungs you need an expectorant to clear the mucas from your lungs and it will still make you feel better at the same time your throat won't hurt as bad while coughing shit up. I think robitussion mucas and flhem would work good for you.

 

[Lorne???]

^^^ Yeah I agree, that's why I said DXM was unlikely to help. Plus, H is a far better cough suppressant than DXM anyway.

 

[The Doc.]

How do you smoke it are you holding the lighter too close to the foil and burning it? I smoked heroin for years daily along with weed daily too without this ever happening so I'm thinking your smoking off of foil wrong if you burn the aluminium foil by holding the flame too close this kind of stuff can happen and its extremely bad for you long term the toxic vapors forms burning aluminium.

 

[Lorne???]

I also thought his technique was off, but I don't have any experience with smoking, so I didn't mention it.

Also could be some particularly dirty tar, I know smokers who had problems like this, but it was with long term use.

I mean, I doubt it's much worse than smoking cigarettes for a decade, or anything like that.

 

[The Doc.]

Yea I think robittusion mucas and flhem actually has guafinesin as the main ingredient but many people can't remember those weird names just the brand names of drugs most people would probably come home with some bat shit or something if they went out looking for guafinesin haha

 

[The Doc.]

I also thought his technique was off, but I don't have any experience with smoking, so I didn't mention it.

Also could be some particularly dirty tar, I know smokers who had problems like this, but it was with long term use.

I mean, I doubt it's much worse than smoking cigarettes for a decade, or anything like that.

Yea he never said he had tar but I guess tar would do damage more than powdered dope. I smoked China white heroin and it burned nice and smooth always the only time powder would be making me cough is if it was some street shit all cut to crap.

 

[Lorne???]

Oh he didn't did he? Haha yeah, we don't have no 3 around here(Atlanta) so I guess I just assumed tar.

And I should remember not to be so damn clinical, but then I think it helps to have the drug name because sometimes the generic isn't clear.

I couldn't remember the name of the syrup anyway.
Strange if powders causing problems like that though.

 

[The Doc.]

Yea is number 3 the powder that can only be smoked and needs citric acid to be broken down? Its weird the stuff in Canada here can be smoked with no problem and can be injected without citric acid it dissolves perfectly and can also he snorted to get a awesome high. Ive heard certain types of heroin can't be smoked in the states or need citric acid to be injected but I've only ever added citric acid to tat before the few times I got it. Weird how the powder here can be used any way eh?

 

[SoonAJunkie]

Snort it,it does the trick for me.I prefer snorting to smoking,I have a weird feeling about heroin's taste and smell,it's just a smell but I puke hard whenever I try to smoke,it feels so creamy
On topic,maybe you're just into withdrawals, I've heard that smoking heroin isn't even nearly as harmful as smoking cigarettes

 

[Lorne???]

Sounds convenient!

But yeah, no 3 is diamorphine base- it has a terrible solubility at neutral PH(less than 2mg per ml) so can't be injected without lowering PH, however, it is more volatile so can be easily smoked.

No 4 is the hydrochloride salt, soluble at 500mg per ml, but is generally harder to smoke. However, I've seen certain types of no 4 that seem to smoke just fine, so that is likely what you guys have.
(People here do add caffeine to the powder at times though).

The funny thing about snorting, is it's actually great if you have GOOD dope, however most people who get that are just going to shoot it anyway.

I wish someone would try swallowing a LARGE dose of H, though, bioavailability actually reaches 60-70% at high doses, but I'm not going to risk it!

 

[fizzymk]

I dont think I am holding the flame too close to the foil, I pretty much just get it close enough just to get the point smoking. I may buy a meth type glass pipe and see if that works any better tho...I try to avoid it, but I know Im loosing some smoke from using foil.

The stuff I had the other day was brown and kind of sticky, but around here, it is rare to get tar, usually its rock hard, gray, or light tan powder, the sticky stuff made me cough particularly bad.

Ive tried snorting few times before and seems like some of it gets stuck in my nose, I do trim my nose hairs,but I guess theres some way back in there..?

I wish I could just go to the needle, but shit, my w/ds are fucking horrible now, I couldnt imagine them getting worse!

 

[Pill__Head]

I dont think I am holding the flame too close to the foil, I pretty much just get it close enough just to get the point smoking. I may buy a meth type glass pipe and see if that works any better tho...I try to avoid it, but I know Im loosing some smoke from using foil.

The stuff I had the other day was brown and kind of sticky, but around here, it is rare to get tar, usually its rock hard, gray, or light tan powder, the sticky stuff made me cough particularly bad.

Ive tried snorting few times before and seems like some of it gets stuck in my nose, I do trim my nose hairs,but I guess theres some way back in there..?

I wish I could just go to the needle, but shit, my w/ds are fucking horrible now, I couldnt imagine them getting worse!

meth pipe or any glass pipe wont work bother, you need the aluminum, its really the only item thats sutaible for smoke Tar, as far as i know..it has something to do with how the foil distributes / hold the heat from lighter..

 

[Lorne???]

It is heroin no 3 isn't it?(diamorphine base). You generally shouldn't smoke HCL.

And IV won't make WD's worse, but increasing you're dose will. IV is more potent than smoking, so shooting the same dose could make then worse, but remember smoking is nearly as fast as IV, so that is not an issue.

 

[fizzymk]

meth pipe or any glass pipe wont work bother, you need the aluminum, its really the only item thats sutaible for smoke Tar, as far as i know..it has something to do with how the foil distributes / hold the heat from lighter..

Yeah, I bought a meth pipe and tried smoking a point of H, it kind of worked..I got about 4 hits before it was burnt up totally, it was about the same as smoking off foil imo, its far easier to smoke off foil tho!

I think Im going to sit down and make some kind of pipe from foil, with some way to keep all the smoke it, but have easy access to the 'bowl' area.

 

[Snake_Eyes]

meth pipe or any glass pipe wont work bother, you need the aluminum, its really the only item thats sutaible for smoke Tar, as far as i know..it has something to do with how the foil distributes / hold the heat from lighter..

I've read of some users having success with the rigs used for cannabis concentrates.

 

[ksralyv2mch]

I have the same problem, fiz.
I've been smoking tar for a couple months on and off and I've been coughing up the nastiest black/grey shit and whenever I hit weed now I cough the fuck out of my lungs and if I'm dope sick and start smoking I cannot hold it in cause it tickles WAYYYY TOO MUCH so what I found that help was while I was smoking H I would have a menthol cough drop in my mouth to help sooth and numb my throat while I smoked those first hits to get well.... but once I got well it didn't bother me too much, but I mean who knows what your heroin is cut with and I mean I see the foil melt before my eyes sometimes so that's not good...

Smoking heroin isn't good anyway LOLOLOL im dumb

 

[Dawglaw]

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