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Avoiding rock bottom?

AwakeningCT

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Hey everyone, i am a young guy (22) and I've danced around the edges of addiction for a few years. I've smoked pot the longest, but have found downers (alcohol and Xanax) to be my drugs of choice, and my downfall. Although, I have always used whatever was going around. I have gone into some blackouts that should have resulted in my arrest, or worse. I am capable of stringing together several months sober time (3 months currently) but I always seem to forget how bad I got. I never used for very long, I'm more if a binger, and when I do its intense. I can see now that my life is better without drugs. I am in school and things will go well if I remain sober. I don't find it terribly hard to stay sober, but in a way, I use that to convince myself I can one day drink/use. It's real tough trying to imagine by life, at 22 without drinking or using drugs again. Whats the best way? I have Ttenesed meetings, counseling. And have family support, but I feel the drugs calling... The more time that goes by, the easier is seems to be for me to justify using again. Based off my habits, I know that if I pick up again I will bibge and end up aarrested from a DUI or who knows what. Any words of wisdom would be appreciated.
 
The idea of hitting bottom is a very dated, rather outdated concept. It is of very little use. Actually, that is, if it is of any real use whatsoever... Dwelling on how fucked up your life is, memories of intense suffering and discomfort, and how you're not where you want to be or doing what you want to do is simply not helpful. Instead, without denying where you've come from and the reality of how painful your life currently is, focus on where you want to go and how much you have to achieve.

When I was your age, albeit deeper into dependency than you are and using "harder" and more drugs (so it sounds at least), imagining my life abstinent or not using again simply didn't work. It wasn't until I basically came clean with myself about how I actually didn't care about whether I was abstinent or not, and began be honest with myself about what I really wanted out of life. Once I was able to get myself together a plan, identify some authentic, reasonable goals and began setting out to achieve them, it sobriety just didn't work out well. Granted I wasn't abstinent during that period where I was trying to "be abstinent," but my drug use then was more destructive than it was or has ever been. Once I started focusing on doing what I cared about in my life, what drug use remained became much, much more responsible and moderate - until eventually I basically stopped using.

I'm not saying forget about it and you'll achieve it. Doesn't work that way either. But I strongly suggest throwing the whole rock bottom concept out the window and start identify goals you really care about - i.e. that you care about more than using and how using makes you feel. And although it goes without say, it must be emphasized that without a support system (therapist, friends, family, loved ones, my work environment, volunteering, BL, my hobbies, etc. etc.) - not so much regarding staying off drugs only support, but all around support necessary to live a healthy, successful life - I doubt I would have gotten [back] on track. Doing it by yourself, by no mean impossible, it just so much harder and less realistic. Eventually the support, especially regarding sobriety, is just not as necessary, but I think for most of us it takes time to get to that point.

Keep it real and keep moving forward. The more good decisions you make about your life, not just your drug use, the better you're life will become. The more things you'll achieve and the more you'll love the fact you get to be alive.

Focus on your goals. You can't change the past. And since you make your own future, might as well make strategic choices and healthy decisions so you're able to do what's necessary to avoid reliving your past over and over again.

Best wishes! If you're from CT, my heart goes out to you. I so miss living in Hartford, especially around this time of year when the ginko trees begin turning golden :) <3
 
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The thing about bottoms is they always contain a trap door! "Bottom" is basically the moment where you have had enough pain and decide to try to change. Its a very personal thing.

People used to think that you had to "bottom" to quit, we know that is not true. However, many people do have to face some very real consequences in order to get them motivated to change. But, we also know that things like "Motivational Interviewing" works as well.
 
So the ideal of hitting bottom among the more enlightened members of the fellowship is now understood to be a kind of analogy for the stimuli that leads the addict to genuinely decide they're "sick and tired of being sick and tired," no? That is good to hear. Wish more people would preach that in AA and NA, but I guess they are programs led by and run for to genuinely sick people ;)
 
The idea of hitting bottom is a very dated, rather outdated concept. It is of very little use. Actually, that is, if it is of any real use whatsoever... Dwelling on how fucked up your life is, memories of intense suffering and discomfort, and how you're not where you want to be or doing what you want to do is simply not helpful. Instead, without denying where you've come from and the reality of how painful your life currently is, focus on where you want to go and how much you have to achieve.

When I was your age, albeit deeper into dependency than you are and using "harder" and more drugs (so it sounds at least), imagining my life abstinent or not using again simply didn't work. It wasn't until I basically came clean with myself about how I actually didn't care about whether I was abstinent or not, and began be honest with myself about what I really wanted out of life. Once I was able to get myself together a plan, identify some authentic, reasonable goals and began setting out to achieve them, it sobriety just didn't work out well. Granted I wasn't abstinent during that period where I was trying to "be abstinent," but my drug use then was more destructive than it was or has ever been. Once I started focusing on doing what I cared about in my life, what drug use remained became much, much more responsible and moderate - until eventually I basically stopped using.

I'm not saying forget about it and you'll achieve it. Doesn't work that way either. But I strongly suggest throwing the whole rock bottom concept out the window and start identify goals you really care about - i.e. that you care about more than using and how using makes you feel. And although it goes without say, it must be emphasized that without a support system (therapist, friends, family, loved ones, my work environment, volunteering, BL, my hobbies, etc. etc.) - not so much regarding staying off drugs only support, but all around support necessary to live a healthy, successful life - I doubt I would have gotten [back] on track. Doing it by yourself, by no mean impossible, it just so much harder and less realistic. Eventually the support, especially regarding sobriety, is just not as necessary, but I think for most of us it takes time to get to that point.

Keep it real and keep moving forward. The more good decisions you make about your life, not just your drug use, the better you're life will become. The more things you'll achieve and the more you'll love the fact you get to be alive.

Focus on your goals. You can't change the past. And since you make your own future, might as well make strategic choices and healthy decisions so you're able to do what's necessary to avoid reliving your past over and over again.

Best wishes! If you're from CT, my heart goes out to you. I so miss living in Hartford, especially around this time of year when the ginko trees begin turning golden :) <3

I really like this post.
 
the only bottom is death.

It sounds like you are hearing the cloying siren song of addiction beckoning you to indulge "one more time".

I too am like toothpaste dog in the sense that I abused much harder drugs for longer. I too realized that I couldn't continue this way, and I didn't see any real way of not using something. What works is finding something you love, and surrounding yoruself with people who love you. There are so many people that want you to use, but there are a greater number of people that want you to succeed. If you are doing what you love, and taking part in the lives of those who love you, that siren song gets drowned out. Also, if the siren song is overpowering you, you will be around people that can help you not hear it, instead of people that want you to use.

I like gardening. I volunteer at a state park. I can't work right now in my field because of hep c, but am actively working on getting that cured (I am a chef, I work with food. It would be completely unethical for me to serve or cook food for people knowing that there is even a slight possibility that I can infect someone.)

Keep going to the counseling, spend time with your family, reevaluate your friends and stick by the ones that genuinely want you to do well. Find something you love to do and do it. As Kant philosophized "a man needs three things, something to do, a place to lay his head, and something to love" Find those and your golden.
 
the only bottom is death.

It sounds like you are hearing the cloying siren song of addiction beckoning you to indulge "one more time".

I too am like toothpaste dog in the sense that I abused much harder drugs for longer. I too realized that I couldn't continue this way, and I didn't see any real way of not using something. What works is finding something you love, and surrounding yoruself with people who love you. There are so many people that want you to use, but there are a greater number of people that want you to succeed. If you are doing what you love, and taking part in the lives of those who love you, that siren song gets drowned out. Also, if the siren song is overpowering you, you will be around people that can help you not hear it, instead of people that want you to use.

I like gardening. I volunteer at a state park. I can't work right now in my field because of hep c, but am actively working on getting that cured (I am a chef, I work with food. It would be completely unethical for me to serve or cook food for people knowing that there is even a slight possibility that I can infect someone.)

Keep going to the counseling, spend time with your family, reevaluate your friends and stick by the ones that genuinely want you to do well. Find something you love to do and do it. As Kant philosophized "a man needs three things, something to do, a place to lay his head, and something to love" Find those and your golden.
I didn't know you couldn't be a chef with hep c?
 
Thank you everyone for the responses I really appreciate it! I'm not sure where I got the concept of rock bottom from or why I focused in that... Anyway I basically just wanted to say how can I make myself smarten up, not want to use drugs, and avoid ruining my life. All responses were helpful so thabk thank you! I'm in a situation where I put getting my BSN on hold because I couldn't continue my ways, especially if I plan to be a nurse. Now the process of finishing is getting a bit tricky but sure it will figure itself out. Having more sober time has helped a lot. I'm actually thinking about consequences lately.. what a concept!! Lol. And like someone mentioned, I am finding positive things to replace my time with and it helps a lot. The urge to always be "on something" is subsiding. It has been difficult differentiating from if I am an addict or just a young guy who got caught up where he shouldn't and is straightening himself out. Any thoughts on that? I think I in a good place right now overall, and thank everyone again.
 
You can be a chef, but I feel it is unethical knowing that you can pass along a very contagious disease. Think about this situation for a second. You have a small cut on your hand. You have a bandaid over it and begin washing lettuce or garnish, the water makes a small amount of blood go into the lettuce. These two items won't be cooked. You place them on a plate, someone eats them that has a chancre sore in their mouth. You have unwittingly exposed them to hep c. I personally just don't want to risk it, and I am using this hiatus to come up with new and exciting recipes, and experimenting with new vegetables and herbs.

Basically, I have such a high viral load that my blood has lots of the virus in it. Also say I get cut on the line, or my hand gets cut on the slicer. What of my other cooks or sous chef that comes to help me...should I put them at risk because I couldn't control my IV drug use?

It is all personal ethics. You are trusted with one of the basic tenants of life...eating, and being nourished...I feel that if I can't guarantee a safe experience then there is no point in offering an experience at all. I also will never be a chef that walks around in a clean chefs coat belting out orders to his staff....I am a down and dirty in the mix kind of chef.
 
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