Benzos Avizafone & Rilmazafone

[Working_Class]

Avizafone


D + 00:20 - 30 mg in water with coolaid squeeze stuff in 200 ml jar. Surprisingly quick come up. Feel quite nice. Still clear-headed and in a good mood. Feeling productive.


T. + 0050 - dosed the rest of the 30 mg. Feel pleasantly relaxed. Took 5 mg of dexadrine and will eat in 20 mins


- did not eat, went to home Depot to get some stuff for an office project the Ms and I are doing the moment.



T + 3:20 - decided to put another 30 mg in a sugar free soda and sip on it. Also took 10 more mg of dexadrine, for hedonism sake.


Finished it over 10 mins


T + 4:45 - Definitely riding a spontaneous pharma speed ball. Cleaning, office upgrade and paperwork are a breeze. Still have not eaten, engrossed in my tasks and enjoying the satisfaction of completing them as they have been looming "To do's" for YEARS while I was in college. It's beyond time for these, and it feels good.


Also ate A couple of pre-prepared meals that I have been avoiding all day because I wanted to ingest the substance on an empty stomach. Food hit real nice. Definitely needed something.


8 or 9 ish PM? It took a final 20 mg and another 10 mg dexadrine and finished all of my marijuana. Continued to buzz around and finish a bunch of tasks, I cut a nice 3/4-in Birch segment to extend the large corner desk we have in the office from its original layout so that the one side can be pushed all the way up against the opposite wall. While cutting, I cut the corner of the card table that I was using as a workbench off, only the next day did my girlfriend notice I cut the table lol. Might try to Pl400 it back on.


Following day, very groggy. The long half life of this stuff is quite apparent after sleeping for about 12 hours and enjoying swerving on it for about 10 hours before sleep.


Half-life calculator says approximately 80 hour Half-Life with main metabolites being diazepam, nordiazepam and my favorite, temazepam which is a bit of a pleasant surprise. Probably one of the tail end metabolites. This stuff will be bioactive and noticeable for probably 2 days at dose of about 80 mg. Likely take about 2 weeks to properly clear the body, so this is not an every day Benzo. But definitely a fun one, will be looking to stock up on this before it's banned like all of the other fun stuff.


T + 33:00 - I can still feel a pleasant, distinct Benzo feeling for the entire day. To some this maybe pretty unwanted in some situations it would be a negative for myself, but I've found this fairly enjoyable.


The very very protracted experience would not lend itself well to a "one day" experience if coupled with a psychedelic. But, it's strong enough to push some euphoria and I love a good background gabaergic in my system. I also quit drinking alcohol recently, so I'm thinking I had a hankering for a little swerve session.


All in all, 33 hrs in and still feeling the tail end of a titrated total dose of 80 mg of Avizafone, I'd say that was a heavy dose trailered to a little binge with no real serious obligations planned for the day of and 2 days post trip.


If I was to use this during a work day, likely 30 mg max would be reasonable.

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

Just hoop it. I used to slam morphine all the time and started hooping it to avoid the track marks and it works just as good with a slightly longer onset (5 mins instead of instant).

If you don't take a shit first though, your poop might steal your dose. That is ultra frustrating when you're excited to get plaffed and only have a limited supply and budget XD

I have been down that road with morphine and decided id rather use the needle than feel like I am literally being raped by dope. (Completely subjective, actually im sure boofing is safer). I could certainly live IM SC avizafone but it does point me towards other items availalble. Rilmafazone the Cl-218-872 looks interesting (eh nvm partial z drug type)-- clobromaz is probably the obvious choice. Again bit of research required but looks promising.

 

[krkkhed]

Just got my hands on some and I am finding it quite enjoyable! Real nice in my opinion. Iäm interested about IM use of this, Ive always had this aversion to IM, wondering if IV works too. I read somewhere that IV just causes a state of unconscioussness, and other people whove injected other benzos say its not much of a rush,, just sedation

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

^Its a good question -- I would think that would be the first route ppl would go? I also am opposed to IM/SC use (or at least not well informed)

 

[krkkhed]

A new update to my Avizafone studies;
I had spilled some of the powder on my table while weighing out a dose and due to being barred out from a previous dose, i neglected to clean up the spilled powder. The next day it had solidified into this bright yellow goop. I am going to try and attach an image of it.
The site I bought it from DID say that the product was "sensitive to heat" and would turn to a paste without affecting the quality. I am just very intrigued by the colour, as shown by the image below

With a little bit of difficulty i weighed out 10mg of this goopy stuff and it did hit the exact same. Just thought I should post this here incase anyone in the future freaks out over their stuff turning yellow and goopy; it still hits!

edit: as it has been very hot where I am recently, the powder I kept in my bag also turned this color but looks more like european speed paste than the stuff on my table. Again, the vendor I bought it from did say this could happen. Just posting here for information purposes

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

Interesting -- this was white powder I presume.. Was it very hot where that was by any off chance? C-lam use to be yellow at top purity (all but once for me and i know shit all bout synth so ?) looks a bit like a highly concentrated amount with a drop or two of liquid in it. (Eckh I made so many "Spill" mistakes). --- Ah I dont read so good it has been very hot! I would keep it somewhere dark and cool if possible -- idk what temp it starts to degrade at but c-lam wasnt unreasonably high (somewhere around 90F, sorry im american i know F is stupid)

 

[pcplease]

phenazolam/clobromazolam is yellow, too, as was norflurazepam. does it turn yellow dissolved in water and not exposed to open air?? in any case a very minor level of impurity can cause a huge change in color, so it does not surprise me that an open, hygroscopic gel started discoloring

 

[krkkhed]

Interesting -- this was white powder I presume.. Was it very hot where that was by any off chance? C-lam use to be yellow at top purity (all but once for me and i know shit all bout synth so ?) looks a bit like a highly concentrated amount with a drop or two of liquid in it. (Eckh I made so many "Spill" mistakes). --- Ah I dont read so good it has been very hot! I would keep it somewhere dark and cool if possible -- idk what temp it starts to degrade at but c-lam wasnt unreasonably high (somewhere around 90F, sorry im american i know F is stupid)

Sort of off white powder yes. And yes it was hot as fuck in my closet, it gets like that lol. It still hits so no downgrade in product as the vendor said as well.

phenazolam/clobromazolam is yellow, too, as was norflurazepam. does it turn yellow dissolved in water and not exposed to open air?? in any case a very minor level of impurity can cause a huge change in color, so it does not surprise me that an open, hygroscopic gel started discoloring

I havent tried dissolving it in water, i should try that after work as I've got to leave now. I'll let you know what happens...

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

^Phenazolam is on my next to try list forsure.

I always used 151 rum not water (as benzos are not water soluble! dont do it!). A zig zag weighs about 40 mgs, sometimes 41 depending on the rip... (most reasonably priced mg scales need some weight on em before they work right, wax paper, was perfect)

so you zero your scale set a zig zag on it, let it zero. put idk 1mg per ml (Your call obviously). I went as strong as 10mg per ml and it was a mistake lol. Should pour pretty clean off wax paper into your alcohol solution. Shake that well when you use. (you will probably lose about 5mgs every time you do this; it happens)

Keep said liquid in the fridge, freezer I am pretty sure would be fine but I don't know the low point degradation. (Forget what the vendor says look at the chemicals highest and lowest temp). I know I had c-lam in compost piles outside and all kinds of silly shit and none of it *seemed* to lose potency. Who really knows though.

 

[krkkhed]

^Phenazolam is on my next to try list forsure.

I always used 151 rum not water (as benzos are not water soluble! dont do it!). A zig zag weighs about 40 mgs, sometimes 41 depending on the rip... (most reasonably priced mg scales need some weight on em before they work right, wax paper, was perfect)

so you zero your scale set a zig zag on it, let it zero. put idk 1mg per ml (Your call obviously). I went as strong as 10mg per ml and it was a mistake lol. Should pour pretty clean off wax paper into your alcohol solution. Shake that well when you use. (you will probably lose about 5mgs every time you do this; it happens)

Keep said liquid in the fridge, freezer I am pretty sure would be fine but I don't know the low point degradation. (Forget what the vendor says look at the chemicals highest and lowest temp). I know I had c-lam in compost piles outside and all kinds of silly shit and none of it *seemed* to lose potency. Who really knows though.

Didn't turn yellow in water. I can try this routine as well

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

Did it dissolve in water or is it all just chillin on the bottom? oh wait this is avisafone, it should be water soluble. Sorry I am behind. You should not need to do the 151 thing with avisafone my apologies.

If it did not turn yellow in water I am not quite sure and will have to guess 4qdsar has a better perspective.

 

[Working_Class]

I pushed the daily dose up to 180 mg on Avizafone and it is nice but there seems to be a ceiling effect for me with a very long drag afterwards which makes one feel like taking a little extra ADHD meds.

My script refill is coming up in about 10 days and I'm 5 doses short because of this. Been doing some medium ish fattie microdoses of psychs to also stretch out the gaps in my refill because of the speedballing tendencies to get through the draggish part of the next 2 days or so.

Been pretty good about not tapping around with the rest of my bag. I must only have like 200 mg left of my gram by now that I got on the tail end of a thanksgiving sale.


Ralmazafone; like zero recreational effect, very solid, reliable sleepy effect about 90 - 120 mins after taking. Really helps a guy get to bed if you find you've got insomnia. Not a lot of rebound anxiety etc at all, not sure if this one would be any good for speedballing because of the lack of euphoria, highest I've pushed ralmazafone dose so far is a 5 mg experience and I feel fine getting up after about 8 hrs sleeping.

Also tried down to 3 mg and that also works. 2 mg getting to sub threshold for me, so 3 is a good minimum, 5 a max seeing as less doesn't seem to do what I need it to and more will serve no swerve / benefits. Maybe unless over stimmed but ya, mixing is supposed to be a no so don't be me I guess XD

Half life is short as well which is good to know. Not like etiz but short enough (~8 ish hours of im remembering correctly, double check that for yourself)

Definitely will restock these probably at the max available amount for my now dubbed "Benzo wallet" I've repurposed my old wallet for. Bulk friend order probz incoming.

And I traded my Reddit profile for a gram of Etizolam (hopefully it comes in NP) and apparently a gram hopefully of 4f-MPH.

Hopefully that batch lasts me. I did way too much speed recently and it got me I to trouble, thought I was getting a gram at a time, those were 4 gram bags 🫩

Kinda over the street speed thing NGL. It's absolutely non functional for me IME.

 

[Working_Class]

Etizolam Half Life Calculator - Graph and Multiple Doses

This etizolam half life calculator shows how etizolam accumulates and how long it stays in your body. Get dose and frequency with ease!

half-life-calculator.com

I decided to drink 2 days after the first dose one day after the second dose. Pretty much middle of the day so something like 60 hours after the first dose, first dose being 70 mg. Second dose being 24 hours later at about 62 or 63 mg.


The half-life of Avizafone is so long that alcohol the following day without any redosing of the benzos hits like a sack of bricks. It's actually really nice little tail end trip, but just be aware that if you're going to drink alcohol even a few days after dosing this stuff, it will be floating around in your system. I've included the half-life calculator to make it a little bit easier to visualize just how long this s*** will be in your system for.

The day after, a dose of dexadrine really helps smooth out the groggyness and almost feels like a bonus speedball "light" if you take your prescribed dose of ADHD meds. Training at the gym feels fine, arousal trumps the Benzo drag pretty easily when warmed up and if anything just adds to the euphoria of training (for me anyways). Can still suitcase deadlift 175 a side for 5 reps without straps or hook grip pretty easy with a nice hold at the top for right side, left states slipping after the 3rd rep, so a dedicated final single with a 5 second hold to finish equally.


I've also heard that the half-life of Avizafone is closer to 80 hours instead of the mentioned 36 on this calculator, so nearly double what it says here.


Just some food for thought. I think I had about five or six drinks and felt more like 12.

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

Wait that chart is for etizolam (Maybe alot of benzos I didnt check). Valid point though

 

[Working_Class]

Wait that chart is for etizolam (Maybe alot of benzos I didnt check). Valid point though

You can insert any drug from the list with any dosing schedule to see how cumulative doses will slowly bleed off after a peak with new exposure.

Super useful for seeing how long say different steroid esters would be in AAS users, or in this case cumulative diazepam doses accumulation in relation to their half life.

The general rule of thumb, 5 halflives usually pretty much considered full circle (mostly eliminated through metabolism) so any doses taken concurrently before the 5 half life time is up will have a cumulative effect.

If doses are regular in size and regular in interval, you reach stable blood plasma levels after steady successive doses reaching into the 5th half life of the compound.

Good stuff to know when getting into polypharmacy P:

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

5 half lives I like that "general rule of thumb" and that it includes cumulative. Thanks for the link to that chart Ill have to check it, sorry just went by the label.

 

[Working_Class]

Avizafone continued;

So with that first crazy two high days of 70 and 63 mg it took about 6 days for blood plasma to go down to 25 ish mg from that combined dose 0 of 130 mg over the course of 24 hours. One dose of t + zero and one dose of t plus 24 hours.


So yeah 6 days later. Blood plasma is about 25mg, redosed 30ish putting blood plasma back up to 55 mg.


The difference in the sensation between 30 and 70 is huge, I definitely prefer 70 for hedonism's sake, but I also feel like because the metabolites are in you for so long. You kind of have this trailing slow auto taper that also kind of kills your tolerance I would imagine.


I had 2 beers on the day of the 30 mg redose (6 days after first dose putting plasma levels to about 55 mg). With two regular beers, the euphoria was pronounced and I feel like it does need a little extra kick. Otherwise it's kind of boring


1 day after my most recent dose which was 6 days after the first dose. Didn't take any extra benzos but I had two tall boys and a shot and that was nice and euphoric, pretty lethargic too. I didn't want to go to the gym before that, but I made myself and it turned into actually pretty productive session, trained dynamic bench against bands, wide medium and narrow, slow and fast tempo, 2 sets of 5 each grip, 1st set slow, 2nd faster with pause at the chest. Labrum tear is just over a year old so it's starting to feel pretty good again. But yeah this stuff f****** drags on forever.


I think in the future I'm going to use it recreationally for sure. But I'm going to time my exposure so that I get what I'm looking for. So I think Max frequency once every 14 days to at least let it clear before the next dose. Ideally probably more like 20 days to actually let tolerance fade. I'm definitely going to use it on a day off and I'm going to definitely use it with a little bit of an increase dose of ADHD meds on the day. And for the next day or so, probably going to need at least the prescription dose first thing in the morning to kind of counteract the grogginess and long half-life.


All in all I've had a pretty positive experience with this stuff, if I had to give it an out of 10 for me, 6 out of 10 because of the undesirably long Half-Life. Otherwise, it's pretty nice day one and the long halfway is actually kind of makes it so that it's useless to continue binging. So that might actually be a nice feature versus say etizolam which has about a 5-hour half-life and will be cleared from the system in about 25 hours total. Whereas Avizafone has a clearance time of something like 120 hours (going off only. The half-life calculator for diazepam, and being a pro drug, this is likely going to extend the half-life beyond that). So clearance time is essentially at least a week for it to get into the sub milligram range.


One thing I don't think I would like this drug to use as a trip killer because it is so lengthy and you'd probably need to take a pretty heavy dose to ameliorate say like a panic attack or took too much of XYZ, stimmy, psychedelic or whatever. Might be better as just an edge duller if say going for a full psych experience, but then taking a trip killer plus having the cushion could be a real mess like mixing Lycra (Pregabalin) and any other Benzo, it can be a deadly mix so be aware of the dangers of that

*** PSA, Just as an aside; I tried a Pregabalin and Etizolam mix when I could take 1200 mg of pregabalin and go to the grocery store no prob and 6 mg of etizolam was a comfortable level for me.

300 mg of pregabalin and 0.5 of etizolam had me absolutely whacked. I had to go walk some of the high off before I'd let myself lay down for fear of dying in my sleep XD. Some combination are actually very dangerous so be aware




Very much prefer something that hits hard and kind of ends within a day or so, so for this purpose I would probably say Ralmazafone would be superior because of its lack of euphoria and extremely hypnotic bias where it makes you just want to lay down and go to bed essentially instead of mixing synergistically and causing a heightened state of euphoria because you get all the desired effects of any stim or psych without all the edginess that basically makes the experience more difficult.


Here is an attached graph of the diazepam levels over the described timeline.

Etizolam Half Life Calculator - Graph and Multiple Doses

This etizolam half life calculator shows how etizolam accumulates and how long it stays in your body. Get dose and frequency with ease!

half-life-calculator.com

If you look at the graph, it says it'll take about 308 hours which is about 12.8 days to basically reach baseline if I don't dose again before that time. Probably would look at trying to clear a little bit more if I was trying to get drug tested or whatever, like an extra 7 days past that minimum


I did not include alcohol in here because when you put alcohol in, the doses are in the grams range, which basically makes every other curve on the graph look flat. So it has been excluded for that reason

 

[Dextro .45]

It makes me pretty mad that I had to specifically research and ask for clonidine on my own to get a prescription for it considering how awful the side effect profiles are of traditional antipsychotics and how commonly they prescribe those first. Unluckily for me I’m a CYP2D6 rapid metabolizer so the anxiolytic effects aren’t as strong during the day as I imagine they are for most people. I’m also prescribed 1000ug for my insomnia lol which is nuts considering my girlfriend will pass out for 12 hours with just 100ug.

Hey man, don’t knock Clonidine 0.1mg tablets …..they are AMAZING anxiolytic & sedative meds. Reducing norepinephrine in the CNS is reduces BP & HR and is rapidly acting

Clonidine 0.1mg scored tablet (even half 30min before bed)
Pregabalin 150mg on fasted state (90% oral bioavailability and 1h to reach C-Mac & AUC
Diazepam 5-10mg (potent mental anxiolytic + robust muscle relaxant properties)

Best 3 shot anxiolytic cocktail an hour before bed……sleep like a baby

 

[Dextro .45]

I have to agree %100 about Avizafone. I am ‘6.2 and 225lbs and very tolerant to benzodiazepines. And I MEAN tolerant. When I had a wisdom tooth removal done the dentist had to give me 5, 1/4mg Tiazolam tablets, I told him it might not be enough and after 20 min of waiting for the benz to start to take affect, the dentist was amazed how lucid and aware I was. He then had to give me another 2 1/4mg tabs before I was loopy enough to have my wisdom teeth removed. That being said, I weighed .04 on my scale or 40mg dissolved it into .75 mil of warm sterilized water and gave myself a SC jab into my belly chonk, and without a doubt 10 min or so later, (cannot be to sure on the time of onset) as I was very “lifted” as they say! Gotta admit it’s a great pro drug. And I also used to take the apotex brand 10mg of diazepam 5 tabs per day and they are SHIT! I never realized how impotent they really are! Would love to have some Kern brand if they are as potent as described. Just make sure you have a quality scale to measure your dose if you are benzodiazepine naïve. One that wieghs to the 100th of a gram or better yet 1000th. Either two or three 0’s after the decimal. Tanita scales are great just pricey.

Ya man, Canadian generic Apo-Tex Diazepam 10mg blue scored tablets are WEAK AS SHIT…..probably dosed at 8.025mg API + excipients

Roche Valium 10mg probably hit like a sledgehammer

Spanish Kern brand Diazepam 10mg (small un-scored light blue speckled tablets imprinted 10 in a 30 tablet blister pack……WOW, MY LORD……now THATS POTENT DIAZEPAM……just 3 Kern Diazepam 10mg tablets and I was absolutely faded, robust muscle relaxant and amazing anxiolytic properties

As a Canadian….I have access to near pharmaceutical grade Avizafone (Pro-Diazepam) and IM inject into shoulder muscle 60/70/80mg of Avizafone (= 40mg of Valium), but extremely rapid onset (10min) being extremely water soluable and once entering the bloodstream the API is cleaved from the Lysine- being 100% pure pharmaceutical Diazepam (Valium) 0.7-0.8 hour C-Max vs 1.5h C.Max for oral Valium tablets

Rapid AUC & C-Max this amazing water soluable pro-drug to Diazepam (Valium) non controlled compound. Thank you France lol

Avizafone 60-80mg (Pro-Diazepam) > Diazepam (Valium)
Diclazepam 3mg (2-Chloro Diazepam) > Delorazepam >> Lorazepam (Ativan)
Etizolam 1mg & Deschloroetizolam 6mg

Pregabalin 300mg capsules

Methadone 100-125mg tablets (VERY opioid tolerant)
Methylphenidate (Ritalin) 50-70mg IR

A wonderful oral hybrid Brompton Cocktail / oral Speedball for long term chronic pain due to aggressive RA and I’ve worked my way up to this cocktail 15-20 years

A dopaminergic stimulant (Ritalin, Dexedrine, Adderall, Vyvanse) + a well respected potent Opioid analgesic narcotic painkiller.

Dilaudid (Hydromorphone) 2/4/8mg IR plus “Red Rockets” Hydromorph-Contin 30mg XR, or Blue 9mg XR
Oxy-IR 5/10/20mg + OxyContin 20/40/80mg
Methadone 25mg IR tablets (100-125mg daily)

So ya……the legendary Brompton Cocktail

Methadone 100-125mg
Ritalin 50-70mg IR
Pregabalin 300mg
Diazepam 30mg
Alprazolam 1mg
Ethanol / Gin 2.oz X 4-6

Pain melts away into comfort and content euphoric bliss…..sometimes taking this 6h after taking LSD 100ug tab and enjoying sunny weekend

Sooooo sweet having an amazing doc and genuine CII scripts for anything I request

6’ 240 lbs male, fully functional working stable law abiding Canadian citizen

Apologies for the bizarre rant….its 2:45am, off tomorrow, watching tv oiling & cleaning Colt Government Model 1911 .45 ACP …like a fun toy, polished blue steel and accurate as a MOFO 25-100 yards ….i love my toys lol

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

Brompton cocktail is a palliative elixir containing morphine, cocaine, ethanol, and other ingredients. So kind of but as a purist..

im stuck in bold btw

working class --- Be careful my guy; pack a large parachute for yourself.