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Laquatus0

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I believe almost every major event in human history was a means to someone elses ends. Christianity was a means to keep the people content. Giving them hope and zeal with a higher power, but no motivation with a proofless God. Giving them faith, giving them purpose, giving them a glorious afterlife, all such things that require the submission to someone else. All these things given under a condition of subservience. And in time they come to depend on this system of deceptions known as religion for stability, and thus become content with the condition.

Occasionaly there are those that can see religion for what it is not, and although not knowing the ends for these means, still suspect a hidden agenda. These people come to reject things like faith, divine purpose, and an afterlife. Instead they come to embrace proof, self serving purpose, and the one life they know exists.

This has lead me to assume that Satanists created Christianity.

Entire mellenia ago, the minority started to realize that the majority is inexorably stupid. That most people, rather than searching lifelong for happiness as they define it, will settle for contention and servitude. The minority came to realize that they could use the "herd" to better fluff their own "coat" and the "sheep" would only ask "God" why it is now so cold! Entire processes of mass manipulation were developed, later automated by Churches and Holy Scripture. A monetary system was developed which assigned value to a days labor--for someone elses ends--and then swindled from the masses once again wearing the mask of compulsory donations! There are more than 500 million Catholics Worldwide, if each donated one dollar every sunday, that makes the person controlling the Vatican's coffer's quite a rich man.

Entire drama's play out over private channels, and become with the butterfly effect War and Jihads. People feel obligated to give money to their God when their God doesn't feel obligated to give them a damn thing in this life.

But alas, they have found such bliss in their ignorance, so I won't feel guilt as I mug this annoying motherfucker dressed in red and white standing outside the grocery store, a place where even us Satanists are infamously known to shop, ringing that bell. I mean, what's the point if his God is going to forgive me anyway?
 
my opinion is mine so you get none of it but suffice to say i think you are closer to the truth than you may know. although even your own explanation is self serving. how nice to think that your religion is in control.
 
In the world of sense and logic, religion falls under the category of misdirected energy. You place massive amounts of energy into something that will not prouce results, and at the same time fool yourself into thinking that this misdirected energy will amount to more than a pile of shit.

My "religion" is different. It is more a machine. It produces results using a system of manipulation. Instead of focusing on this unattainable in this life, I focus on ways to get what I want by any means available.

Of course faith is a well developed. It has been used a tool of control and misguidance for thousands of years. But well understood, not really. People unerstand how to use faith, they understand what is promised to them through faith, but they neglect to question faith. The way faith is set up, to question it is to not have it, very convenient indeed for those using faith to exploit others for their own gain.

The fact still stands that the bible beating zealots don't realize they are being extorted. Beyond that, they are pieous in their manipulation! The more they embrace faith, the further from logic and reason they become. To the point that some strap bombs to their stomachs and run into shopping malls screaming the name of their God as they kill innocent people.

Religion disgusts me so much that I almost wish it did not exist. But I realize a need for it to be. If all those with faith found out beyond a shred of doubt that "God" is just a euphemism for "Obedience", and that he in fact did not exist, their entire realilty would be destroyed.

That's why I tolerate religion. Tolerance happens out of neccesity, not compassion. You tolerate me because your false faith tells you to, i tolerate you because I know in order to use you to my own ends you must be completely and utterly devoid of a will to think for yourself.
 
I agree totally, but for the point about allowing religion to exist.

The people who are fooled into believing, are weak, mundanes, usefull maybe, tolerable, only just, and to be used for our own entertainent.

Does not the bible say "Blessed are the iron-handed, for the unfit shallt flee before them, cursed are the poor in spirit, for they shallt be spat upon!"

Ave, friend.
 
your opinion has a lot of truth, but it is somewhat hysterical and unbelievably cynical. i don't have time for a full answer right now, but i think you should consider the vast difference between organised religion, and a personal relationship with God. two very different things that are (or can be) compeltely independant of each other.

"In the world of sense and logic, religion falls under the category of misdirected energy. You place massive amounts of energy into something that will not prouce results, and at the same time fool yourself into thinking that this misdirected energy will amount to more than a pile of shit."

By the very nature of God you cannot explain Him away with science and logic. That is not to say that science and logic do not complement God. I have a friend who is both a brilliant mathematician/physicist and the most genuinely religious person i know. (actually i have two friends exactly like this). I agree with you totally that organised religion is responsible for the hierarchical systems of society which we will, most likely, never shake off; and for conflicts and disasters throughout the ages.
God, in its original sense (and i agree that ethe meaning has been twisted), is a "euphemism" for love, and even if you don't believe in an eternal being, thats not a bad thing to live by.
 
Get over it man, god doesn't fucking exist.

You have to look for empirical evidence of his suppsoed existance.

There is no living thing on eath which relies on neither oxygen in some part of its biology, or if you count deep sea bacteria, hydrogen sulfide.

There is no such thing as an invisible life form, and assuming it were in outer space, it COULDN'T FUCKING BREATHE.

THERE IS NO GOD! GET OVER IT8o

Goddamn mundanes........8)
 
You justify the existance of your God with "science cannot understand him".

This is the exact reason God doesn't exist. Because science explains everything (or will in time) except God. This has lead me to divorce divinity in its entirety.

I have only one life. I can spend it looking at the stars in prayer, or I can spend it looking at the world around me in materialistic glee. I embrace greed, I embrace wealth, I embrace other's jelousy of me. All these things your God won't allow. Therefore i divorce him and embrace Me.
 
WTF this board doesn't have sub/sup script? Well, that code was meant to put emphasis on the capitalization of Me.
 
you can only say "god doesn't fucking exist." for yourself. I KNOW He exists, and i don't need any more proof than the *fact* that i have felt God.
anyways, this is pointless discourse.
laquatus - this materialistic glee you speak of - you don't have to be religious to realise how absolutely disgusting that statement is - you "embrace other's jelousy" of you. thats great. morals are independant of religion (i think anyway). if i interpret your statement correctly, you have none. I do not justify the existance of God by saying that science cannot understand Him - science cannot YET understand Him. Is it really so difficult to believe that there could be a unifying theory? 1000 years ago we did not know about electricity, gravity, quantum theory - fucking steam engines! -whos to say we won't unlock the physicality of the spirit, and other immense subtleties of the universe?

limpet chicken - shut the fuck up. you clearly don't know what you are talking about. Don't even attempt to qualify your opinions with "biological fact" which you spell abysmally anyway ("hydrogen sulfide"), immediately indicating you have no understanding whatsoever. you contradict yourself in your own argument - "There is no living thing on eath..." (assumed to mean earth) - "and assuming it were in outer space...".
DUUUUH - that makes no sense - just because life on earth needs oxygen (or indeed hydrogen sulphide), doesn't mean life elsewhere does. HOWEVER - you are probably right - life appears to follow rigid patterns of development wherever it is found i.e. the same inorganic molecules are required to produce the same organic molecules blah blah blah.
BUT - GOD IS NOT A LIVING ORGANISM - for fuck sake -how can your imagination be so limited as to think of a god as an "invisible life form"
take LSD - you may be able to begin to understand the scope of the concept of GOD. (by the by - don't think of drugs as a path to spiritual enlightenment, or any of that new age bullshit).
you are the "goddamn mundane" limpy - what the fuck do you live for?

you embrace greed laquatus - i spit in your face.
 
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hahahaha -just had to post something after reading limpet chicken's journal.
made me laugh. satanists in general make me laugh. im not quite sure if it's a religion or just a selfish philosophy, but whatever; its bullshit.
all that hail satan, heil hitler stuff -do you actually believe that? - i know that i might look hypocritical to a more discerning eye - but limpy - you are stupid so i needn't worry. well actually, not stupid, slightly above average intelligence prob, but unpopular at school (no crime) and now desperately trying to fit in in some way. I can see the link between explaining your (solely recreational) drug use with the indulgence of satanism - u aren't into them as much as you make out - but u like the "unique" identity they give you, and the sense that "everything i do, i do for myself" that satanism provides.
ok, so your fiancee is 15 congratulations - you got a girl, what are you; 22, no 23 id say - indulging in your genuine satanism with some poor girl who is only pretending so she looks cool. I know guys like you. I have scorned each and every one of them as i do you.
oh for fuck sake - come on - vampirism? you discredit any notion of a benevolent god and embrace vampirism? don't even attempt any kind of attack on me as a hypocrite. i will floor you. (in terms of words obviously; but if i ever saw you - prob in a cradle of filth t-shirt - i would most likely be compelled to give you a good smack in the face.)
seriously man, just piss off.
p.s. not meant to be disrespective...well, no, it is actually - because i have nothing but disrespect for wholly and intentionally selfish people.
 
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monkeyjunky said:
you can only say "god doesn't fucking exist." for yourself. I KNOW He exists, and i don't need any more proof than the *fact* that i have felt God.
anyways, this is pointless discourse.
laquatus - this materialistic glee you speak of - you don't have to be religious to realise how absolutely disgusting that statement is - you "embrace other's jelousy" of you. thats great. morals are independant of religion (i think anyway). if i interpret your statement correctly, you have none. I do not justify the existance of God by saying that science cannot understand Him - science cannot YET understand Him. Is it really so difficult to believe that there could be a unifying theory? 1000 years ago we did not know about electricity, gravity, quantum theory - fucking steam engines! -whos to say we won't unlock the physicality of the spirit, and other immense subtleties of the universe?

limpet chicken - shut the fuck up. you clearly don't know what you are talking about. Don't even attempt to qualify your opinions with "biological fact" which you spell abysmally anyway ("hydrogen sulfide"), immediately indicating you have no understanding whatsoever. you contradict yourself in your own argument - "There is no living thing on eath..." (assumed to mean earth) - "and assuming it were in outer space...".
DUUUUH - that makes no sense - just because life on earth needs oxygen (or indeed hydrogen sulphide), doesn't mean life elsewhere does. HOWEVER - you are probably right - life appears to follow rigid patterns of development wherever it is found i.e. the same inorganic molecules are required to produce the same organic molecules blah blah blah.
BUT - GOD IS NOT A LIVING ORGANISM - for fuck sake -how can your imagination be so limited as to think of a god as an "invisible life form"
take LSD - you may be able to begin to understand the scope of the concept of GOD. (by the by - don't think of drugs as a path to spiritual enlightenment, or any of that new age bullshit).
you are the "goddamn mundane" limpy - what the fuck do you live for?

you embrace greed laquatus - i spit in your face.

See, were you actually to come up to me and spit in my face, I would beat your ass to nothing. And then I would ask you if you can feel your god's love as I broke your teeth. After you were imobilized from pain, I would steal your wallet and piss on you as a farewell motherfucker.
 
OK, if got exists why has he choosen to ignore people? God says "I love you, here's AIDS."

20 Million people worldwide suffer, and the biggots say its god way of punishing man.
 
Unfortunately, 20 million is a minority to the 400 million Xian population. So I guess you wouldn't understand, Xian mundane, because you aren't apart of the minority.
 
"See, were you actually to come up to me and spit in my face, I would beat your ass to nothing. And then I would ask you if you can feel your god's love as I broke your teeth. After you were imobilized from pain, I would steal your wallet and piss on you as a farewell motherfucker."

Haha!
Thats easy to say when you're sitting half stoned at your computer with your hand on your dick.
Less easy to do when the guy who has just spat in your face is a 6' 5" semi professional rugby player - I *would* destroy you.;)
You are clearly someone who lives by their masculinity - read your profile, and i expected there to be something about height, weight and a large penis - sure enough there was.
Anyway, physicality is nothing in the face of principle.

Suffering is universal, there is no one on earth that does not suffer. Narrowing things down to AIDS or cancer means nothing. I can't answer your question - The question of suffering (and evil) is THE biggest problem with religion. The way i reconcile it with myself is believing in an all-encompasing justice after death. I really can't explain it better than that. There have been countless theological and philosophical works written on that problem - it is unanswerable

"Unfortunately, 20 million is a minority to the 400 million Xian population. So I guess you wouldn't understand, Xian mundane, because you aren't apart of the minority."
8o
WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN!? - get that from the green day song? you're such a fucking loser -"yea man, im so repressed; the system's tryin to keep down, stifle my originality...etc" - shut the fuck up, i know people like you. so you have to be part of a minority to understand stuff? mmm...logical. I am part of a minority you ignorant shit. I have a strong faith, without being committed to a regime of worship imposed by man. YOU are the mundane. Unable to think beyond the tangible.

I must confess i don't know what Xian means. Not through ignorance either - i looked it up in the dictionary, encyclopedia and internet - nothing.
so assuming you didn't just pull that term out of your ass; explain it to me.
 
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haha, it never was. Its just some pig ignorant eedjit talking shite.

"There are more than 500 million Catholics Worldwide, if each donated one dollar every sunday, that makes the person controlling the Vatican's coffer's quite a rich man."

Hmm, collections go to the upkeep of the church (building), charity, and to all the paperwork/bureaucratic stuff that goes on. Not into the pope's pocket. easily one of the most stupid things ive heard in a while.

cheer up you cynic
its christmas!
what do satanists do for christmas? i BET that most already have their tree up.
what u getting your mum for christmas laquatus? how bout u limpy - what's your fiancee want?
 
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haha, retard, i never said i was repressed. the system CAN'T keep me down.

Monkey junkie: are you actually that dense to think all that money goes to the upkeep of the church? Yeah, and Father John is really just "Babysitting" your little brother.
 
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