Austria Bans Herbal Incense 'Spice'

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Austria bans herbal incense 'Spice'
December 18, 2008
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VIENNA (AFP) — Austria's health ministry imposed an immediate ban Thursday on the sale and distribution of the herbal incense "Spice", which some people have taken to smoking for its hallucinogenic effects.

"Spice", which is sold legally in a number of countries as an exotic herbal blend that releases a rich fragrance when burned, would be banned from sale immediately in Austria because a cannabis-like substance, JWH-018, had been found in it, the ministry said in a statement.

While the effects of taking the substance had not yet been fully determined, the risks were deemed to be high, the statement added.

Thus, an immediate 14-day ban had been imposed until a more permanent ruling could be reached, the statement said.

The herbal incense mixtures -- with names such as "Spice Silver", "Spice Gold", "Spice Diamond", "Spice Arctic Synergy", "Spice Tropical Synergy", "Spice Egypt", "Spice Yucatan Fire" -- are currently freely available.

While initially marketed as an incense, posts on Internet forums devoted to drug use have extensively praised the effects of the mixtures when smoked.

Spice has been banned in Switzerland since the end of last year.

Municipal authorities in the German city of Frankfurt recently commissioned a specialist pharmaceuticals laboratory, THC Pharm, which makes medicinal substances from cannabis, to examine Spice samples and found the substance JWH-018 in all of them.
 
I'm yet to try any of the "spice" products, but I hear they're actually a pretty good weed substitute. Better than any of the other legal herbs out there.
 
trainwreck molly, it's not considered to be a joke. delta-9-THC is just not the greatest drug in the world on its own, it has to be combined with other natural cannabinoids (CBD, CBN, THCV, etc.) to bring about the desired high. JWH-018 and JWH-073 are a lot better on their own than THC is.

Marinol still gets you high as fuck, it's just missing a lot of the qualities of a full on cannabis high.
 
That's not true. THC in marinol isn't very good because it's absorbed so slowly orally. CB1 partial agonists and agonists are very good when they come on fast- and fine too when they come on slowly, but they need to come on fast enough that a high enough blood concentration is reached.
 
Increasing the dose of Marinol should resolve the problem with reaching a high enough blood concentration.
 
Nope, but you should do some reading on the potential dangers of it.

JWH-015, a very closely related substance (only two carbons off, actually) has been shown to be metabolized to epoxide intermediaries, which on aromatic hydrocarbons are pretty much universally carcinogenic.
 
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