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Australian speed novice questions

1p = 100mg.

Best way to measure it is to either buy some scales or eyeball it based on how much you purchased (which requires you to have a trust worthy supplier I guess).

Meth is fairly relaxed when it comes to doseage, a few mg either way probably won't hurt, better to err on the side of caution though, since you can always take more, can't undo the drug once it's in your body though.
 
I love meth and have been using it weekly for years.

I think it's funny the guys saying all "speed" in Oz is actually meth.

I fucking wish. Sometimes...every now and then...all I can get is speed and it is not the fucking same.

That's an internet myth and is not true at all.
 
Slateroz said:
I love meth and have been using it weekly for years.

I think it's funny the guys saying all "speed" in Oz is actually meth.

I fucking wish. Sometimes...every now and then...all I can get is speed and it is not the fucking same.

That's an internet myth and is not true at all.

unless your getting prescribed amphetamines, all street gear is some form of a synth for the end product resulting in meth.

the shit your getting is of bad quality, cut or a combination of both, as well not all cooks take much care. all they're chasing is profit
 
I think it's funny the guys saying all "speed" in Oz is actually meth.

I fucking wish. Sometimes...every now and then...all I can get is speed and it is not the fucking same.

That's an internet myth and is not true at all.

"Liiiiiiiiiiiiiving in the 70's......"

Whatever man
 
Slateroz said:
I love meth and have been using it weekly for years.

I think it's funny the guys saying all "speed" in Oz is actually meth.

I fucking wish. Sometimes...every now and then...all I can get is speed and it is not the fucking same.

That's an internet myth and is not true at all.

three questions in response to that:

1. What ingrediants can be used to make amphet?
2. What ingrediants can be used to make methamphet?
3. What is the availablility of these ingrediants in Aus?
 
filenet said:
three questions in response to that:

1. What ingrediants can be used to make amphet?
2. What ingrediants can be used to make methamphet?
3. What is the availablility of these ingrediants in Aus?



1. Cyclohexamine+benzaldehyde+nitroethane= p2np > aluminium amalgam reduction via mercury

2. Red Phosphour+iodine+pseudoephedrine

3. There easily obtainable but you got to know the right people and they are watched chems
 
Sustanon said:
1. Cyclohexamine+benzaldehyde+nitroethane= p2np > aluminium amalgam reduction via mercury

2. Red Phosphour+iodine+pseudoephedrine

3. There easily obtainable but you got to know the right people and they are watched chems

8) isn't google just marvelous!
 
I love meth and have been using it weekly for years.

I think it's funny the guys saying all "speed" in Oz is actually meth.

I fucking wish. Sometimes...every now and then...all I can get is speed and it is not the fucking same.

That's an internet myth and is not true at all.

Speed is slang for what then?
 
I think for the millionth time, here in Aus, when we get speed, in gooey or powder form, we are getting methamphetamine, and for all intents and purposes speed is methamphetamine.

Maybe it doesn't feel the same because of the differing methods of administration used in each of its different forms. Obviously smoking meth won't feel the same as eating it, but pay careful attention, especially to the duration of effects and you will see that when you get a bag of speed and you can't sleep 12 hours later that you have indeed got methamphetamine.
 
background:
i've been using speed for a good 9 years (on and off)
spent 2 of those years using pretty much every day (From age 15-17) til i finally just decided i'd had enough and stopped cold turkey for a while.

with speed i tend to use it once each pay cycle (fortnightly)
we get a fair decent amount (go halvies with a friend) usually we buy between 2 and 5 grams. at absolute minimum we'll get 1gram. and go a halfa each

we'll use it all throughout the course of a bender.
we're both quite generous and will give a point or so away to different friends if theyre around and shit like that.

not all speed in australia is meth. (the amount of meth i've gotten as "speed" or "whiz" lately has increased) Edit.
needless to say tho, after a while you can really tell the difference,
i've been getting some white pastey stuff lately that is definitely meth.

i've never once used a crackie, because the smell of burning speed is fucking disgusting. so much so that even tho ice doesnt smell bad at all (not like whizz does) i cant even bring myself to smoke shards.
i snort it. or eat it
and to those who say you can't snort shards. use a strong baggie, and a hammer. with a good solid surface.
i've found the mortar and pestle. combined with a baggie is also a fuckin fantastic idea.

tolerance to speed builds up very quickly.
however after a good proper bender i find myself not wanting to touch it again for a few weeks at least.
whether or not this is because i've been dependant on the stuff, and i wont let that happen to me with anything again.
or whether this is just because the tiredness and all over body aches after between 3 and 9 days without sleeping are just almost so unbearable
until you get some decent sleep and have a good feed and shower.

and to the original poster.
i've always snorted speed when i use it. then usually have a few dips or rub it into my gums.
in this whole time, ive never had a nosebleed from snorting.
i find i get blocked sinuses a few days after a big bender.

lately ive had a few different batches. one of which i had 2.5 points (given to me by my housemate) very quickly.
i noticed when i was cutting it out it moved across my mirror like glucose does. and when i snorted it i could feel the distinct burn and taste of bi-carb soda. (aka baking soda) that stuff was utter shit. i got a few leg taps and ate a meal about 2 hours afterwards.

then on the other hand, the eightball (3.5g) we got the other night, white pastey shit.
fair decent too. one point down... 15 minutes later.. pinging. tapping. talking shit. wide awake despite doing a full 9 hour shift at work, and being dead tired before i started. it was really good. so good we continued on til we run out. for another 3days. lol

price hasnt really changed at all in the past couple of years.
not going to mention figures obviously. but its gone up considerably since i began.

the one thing i've not been able to find lately has been "ox-blood" or red speed.
and the dark yellowy brown base paste.
those have always been personal favourites of mine.
sorta stuff i can have 2 points of, and not be able to sit still for any period of time other than to play video games.

if you want to go out and dance all night. get ice. make sure you get it in rock form or at least in tiny little shards. (unless you're one of those people who believes the "its a dirty drug" shit the govt. spews forth) it costs a lot more. roughly double what speed does. but its a better feeling, it lasts longer, and its just way more enjoyable to go out on.
and its less likely to be full of cutters.

meth and speed dont feel the same (using the same method of administration.
simply put, meth fucks with my head. speed doesnt. i'm clear headed, alert and awake on speed... meth has all of the above with a fucked headspace, and a lot more confusion, and some paranoia.

results may vary for others tho.

[Edit- I strongly suggest that when posting you try and be a little more discreet. There are some things that you just do not need to post about. Thanks. lil angel15]
 
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not all speed in australia is meth. (the amount of meth i've gotten as "speed" or "whiz" lately has increased) in particular since 2 of my mates got done when their car was searched, and 3/4 kilo of speed was seized

Again you are comparing a slang term like 'speed' with a chemical methamphetamine,

If speed in Australia isn't methamphetamine what chemical are you claiming that it is, and what do you base this on besides your subjective experiences taking the drug?
 
if you think i'm wrong, take my posts with a grain of salt.
it's a drugs discussion. majority of the bluelight members are basically at the end-user level. anything that anyone says should be taken with a grain of salt.

treat each report accordingly.

telling you what i base this information on is a breach of the posting guidelines. and i'm not going to do it. draw your own conclusions.

speed, lui, whizz, goey, vitamin s... whatever you wanna call it..
it's amphetamine... its not meth amphetamine.

ever seen spun? they say "Charlie" is meth-amphetamine within 1min of that movie starting. as far as i'm concerned charlie is cocaine.
it depends on the circles you associate with.

noone i know, refers to meth as anything other than meth.
unless its crystal.
 
js2k6 said:
speed, lui, whizz, goey, vitamin s... whatever you wanna call it..
it's amphetamine... its not meth amphetamine.

ever seen spun? they say "Charlie" is meth-amphetamine within 1min of that movie starting. as far as i'm concerned charlie is cocaine.
it depends on the circles you associate with.

noone i know, refers to meth as anything other than meth.
unless its crystal.

geez, i wonder why theres been so many amphetamine sulphate busts lately and not methamphetamine8)

slang may mean different terms in different circles, but you arent fooling anyone saying it's not meth.

charlie to me, meant heroin at one stage when i heard it in a movie. that doesnt change the fact that the vast majority of speed, lui whtever the fuck you wanna call it, IS methamphetamine in australia
 
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leftwing said:
that doesnt change the fact that the vast majority of speed, lui whtever the fuck you wanna call it, isn't methamphetamine in australia

I think you mean, IS methamphetamine.

Yeah, in Australia, you are getting methamphetamine. Unless you are getting dexies it is methamphetamine, forget what your dealer is telling you, he has no credibility. This has been addressed a million times before, people aren't producing amphetamine sulphate in Australia and nobody is importing it into Australia. My subjective experience can verify that and the experiences of many English friends visiting Australia who have gone to huge lengths to get some amphetamine sulphate will verify that.
 
it depends on who u know but finding quality stuff at a good price i believe depends mostly on where u live. even though speed can be made anywhere in australia, in places with a bigger population and a larger supply ur generally going to have a better chance of a less cut substance cos with larger populations, u get more choice of who to buy off so less chance of being ripped off. even then Everywhere will still have shit and quality. The cost in australia even though some1 said in a earlier report that the price is fairly constant, thats only the case when buying ice by the point. Base will get more expensive the more you drive away from your capital city. and each capital is different. Syd the cheapest. melbourne is ridiculas, Edit.
But every persons buying experience is different.

[Edit- NO PRICES! of any description. lil angel15]
 
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Pistachio said:
I think you mean, IS methamphetamine.
too right

marklar_the_23rd said:
cue "what is speed in australia" discussion number 432,534,636.

:(

i kinda put it down to the media, labelling a lot of it amphetamine, as well as ignorance to other terms of slang and just pure ignorance to the fact
 
Seriously ...who cares?

One thing though...the hydrochloride salt will smoke. The stuff I refer to as "speed" smells different and will not under any circumstances smoke. Even cut meth will smoke.

I can (but don't exclusively) buy amphetamine from 2 people down from the cook. That's not bragging...because I don't like it.

It has no where near the legs of meth and yes...it feels very different.

It's amazing how many of you have an insight into what everyone around the country can and cannot get.

Yes I have had "speed" sold to me and it has been meth. But the other is also available...it was not the case a few years ago but it is now.

When you use enough meth a week for years...you know when you have something "else".

I'm not going to argue though.
 
who cares? generally some seeking out this information. not misinformation.

good for you that you can get amphet, we're discussing the majority not minority
 
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