Bomb319
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Preferably as many people as possible will read this. I spent a lot of time working on this topic because I firmly believe it will save lives - literally and metaphorically. As a 5+ year IV addict, I swear by this method and it took me many months to fine tune. I had tried everything. Cold turkey, methadone, prescription pills, tapering. WHY is the relapse rate for us opiate users always so high? I will tell you exactly why.
First of all, MODS - I'm aware that many elements of what I'm about to post can be found in other topics around the boards. However this is extremely specific, rigorously tested by myself and others whom I have shared it with, and I personally found it necessary to follow all these steps to the letter to truly be able to get clean with minimal discomfort and relapse potential. Please let me share it with everyone and don't delete this simply because it is superficially similar to some other detox methods. I promise this is different. I strongly welcome comments and questions from all and will gladly share my experiences in more detail with you if you PM me.
Ok here we go. Follow this, and even the most extreme opiate habit can be beaten without feeling any sickness for even a day. I really hope I can help as many people as possible become and stay clean and get their lives back. I've found you MUST FOLLOW THIS METHOD EXACTLY FOR MAXIMUM EFFICACY. It's based on three main principles. One, you should not have to suffer serious withdrawal to get clean, as this merely enhances likelihood of relapse. Two, it's one hundred percent legal and easy to access. The last thing you want to do while detoxing is having to worry about breaking the law. And finally, experiencing the opiate rush, like it or not, is what every user ultimately looks for, and I believe it is MUCH harder to detox at all, let alone stay clean, without retaining it in some milder and safer form. So without further ado:
Bomb319 Opiate Detox Recipe:
First of all, I personally find poppy SEED (not pod) tea to be an absolute miracle drug if you can find the right quality seeds and the right dosage. What else has the power to take away all withdrawal (dose dependent) and even leave you with a fairly strong opiate buzz, albeit less so than H and others, allowing you to taper off without being sick by allowing some morphine in your system for a longer time - all completely legally at your local grocery store? Even with IV tolerance, for me, $10 worth of bulk seeds (about 1 kg) will save me and leave me feeling good for 12 hours, and not sick for 24. My best advice: find the right seeds, the cheaper the better. Sorry I'm not able to source this I don't think, even for legal seeds. But you WILL find them. Firstly, find the right dose for you - preferably taking away ALL withdrawal but still providing some minimal euphoria so as not to feel your loss so early. It may take a few days to find the right balance based on your personal tolerance, but this is the most important step and well worth it. Mix a whole bunch of tea in advance if possible and keep it refrigerated as you would methadone. It's basically cheaper legal methadone without the hassle of appointments and carries. Take it in the morning if you can and go about your regular routine. Try your best not to dwell on scoring illegal drugs at this point. Remind yourself that at least your withdrawal will be taken care of and you will be able to function more or less normally. Every three days or so, lower your dose by about 150 grams of seeds. I find this to be the best method of tapering as it's slow and less noticeable as you decrease dosage than methadone. Always keep in mind that you ARE CONSUMING MORPHINE AND CODEINE AT THIS POINT. It is not a drug to play around with. Do NOT take massive doses thinking you can get as high as with H. You will not, and you may feel sick at best, and die at worst. Always follow the golden rule and start with the smallest possible amount and drink more if need be. You will always be able to drink more and halt withdrawal. You will not be able to come out of severe respiratory depression. The risk of overdose on seed tea however is exceptionally small, especially considering you will be opiate tolerant at this point anyway.
Now here comes the critical part which enabled me to become entirely clean. Once you are down to about 200g of seeds, do NOT take the tea the following day. Wait for any signs of withdrawal before doing anything else. Judge how uncomfortable you feel at this point. If capable of riding out the rest of mild tea withdrawals (MUCH MUCH easier than H or other potent IV opiates) by all means do it. Otherwise, go to costco or wal mart and get an 84 count of 2 mg generic Imodium (Loperamide). Costco has it for $9.99. Take about 20-30 pills (as LONG AS LOPERAMIDE IS THE ONLY ACTIVE INGREDIENT) for 40-60 mg. Do this again every morning, every 24 hours. This should be safe. Yes, I know it is much higher than the recommended dose, but you have to do this to allow enough of the drug to cross into the brain. Loperamide is a synthetic opioid similar to Fentanyl, but barely crosses the blood-brain barrier. I've never had a problem even with constipation at doses triple this. It should be about the right level to hold your withdrawal symptoms that remain at bay for about 24 hours if you have followed the above tea taper. Yes, it really does work. No, you don't need to turn your body into a chemistry lab by taking potentiators and/or PGP inhibitors. Enough drug at that dose should cross the blood-brain barrier to ease all withdrawal symtoms once again, only now you are off ALL real opiates (morphine) without becoming sick. If you need slightly more, do it but do not go over 80 mg per day. Once again, you will quickly find the right amount that will keep you healthy. Not get you high at all, but take away cravings as well as withdrawal. By now, you should have conditioned your body to function better without being used to the accompanying euphoria. If you don't feel ready, continue the tea until you do.
At this point, lower your dose by 10 mg (5 pills) every 24 hours. Do not double dose daily. Eventually, you'll feel more or less completely normal with ten pills or less. Congratulations - you've more than likely managed to come off a severe addiction without doctor intervention or paying exhorbitant witnessing fees. Once you feel normal with just a few pills per day, continue this as long as you feel it to be psychologically necessary. If you quit entirely at this point, there are nowhere near enough opiates in your body to make you feel any more than the slightest mildest twinge of withdrawal, if that, especially if you do your best not to focus on it. Now you can stop the pills entirely and your body will be clean from opiates. At this point, if you feel the desire to start using ANYTHING again, even seed tea, try going to counselling or even calling Narcotics Anonymous. At the very least, you will have the freedom of no longer needing to go out and score to avoid sickness, and that terrible obsession fades away. Constantly remind yourself how proud you should feel for managing this, especially on your own and constantly think of all the money you're saving and how you can begin to live a normal life again. With any luck, you will be able to stay off opiates long term with minimal risk of relapsing. You may be able to substitute kratom in varying potencies and dosages if you can't or don't want to use the tea, but it's fairly strong and harder to obtain than seeds - not to mention much more expensive.
It took me YEARS to fully discover and perfect this exact method, and keep in mind I used exactly this to come off a 1-2 gram per day heroin habit. I used to be so violently sick upon cold turkey that I'd need to pull over in my car and puke. I was addicted for five years. If i can do it, you certainly can. Always remember that you DO have the power to break this burden, and how happy you used to be simply doing things you enjoy without needing drugs. Your scars will fade, both physical and emotional, and you'll be so much happier.
I KNOW elements of this plan are posted all around the boards, and that many of you will have tried something similar. However just like cooking a recipe, I find this method tweaked, exact, accurate and extremely effective not to mention useful and cheap. I want to share it with as many people as possible. I truly think the key to success here is actually mostly due to weaning yourself onto a drug that still gives you some euphoria. I know many people say it's best to block withdrawal and that's that, but realistically you are going to miss that opiate feeling, and this way provides you with that feeling you would eventually crave detoxing on other methods and more than likely end up relapsing. It's very gradual and extremely effective. It is more realistic. You will still get comfort from the tea, more so than methadone or bupe. Another huge advantage is again how cheap it is to fully and hopefully completely detox from this, using nothing but items at your local grocery store.
Best of luck, and above all, have faith in yourself. PM me if you have any questions or just need support or want to share your stories. If there's anything at all I can do to help, I'd be happy to. If you've been attempting to quit but simply find it too difficult either physically or psychologically, I urge you to try this in the strongest possible terms. Of course, along the way make sure to delete all dealer contacts from your phone, and stop hanging around with people who use or situations which tempt you to use - standard procedure. More than anything else, no matter what point you are at in your personal detox, always know that it WILL get better, and there WILL come a time where you can live your life happily and opiate free without cravings. It may not feel like it, but trust me, it happens. You are stronger than you give yourself credit for, You have the inner strength to do this. Let's ALL let our terrible experiences with this garbage become nothing more than a distant memory which ultimately makes us stronger.
First of all, MODS - I'm aware that many elements of what I'm about to post can be found in other topics around the boards. However this is extremely specific, rigorously tested by myself and others whom I have shared it with, and I personally found it necessary to follow all these steps to the letter to truly be able to get clean with minimal discomfort and relapse potential. Please let me share it with everyone and don't delete this simply because it is superficially similar to some other detox methods. I promise this is different. I strongly welcome comments and questions from all and will gladly share my experiences in more detail with you if you PM me.
Ok here we go. Follow this, and even the most extreme opiate habit can be beaten without feeling any sickness for even a day. I really hope I can help as many people as possible become and stay clean and get their lives back. I've found you MUST FOLLOW THIS METHOD EXACTLY FOR MAXIMUM EFFICACY. It's based on three main principles. One, you should not have to suffer serious withdrawal to get clean, as this merely enhances likelihood of relapse. Two, it's one hundred percent legal and easy to access. The last thing you want to do while detoxing is having to worry about breaking the law. And finally, experiencing the opiate rush, like it or not, is what every user ultimately looks for, and I believe it is MUCH harder to detox at all, let alone stay clean, without retaining it in some milder and safer form. So without further ado:
Bomb319 Opiate Detox Recipe:
First of all, I personally find poppy SEED (not pod) tea to be an absolute miracle drug if you can find the right quality seeds and the right dosage. What else has the power to take away all withdrawal (dose dependent) and even leave you with a fairly strong opiate buzz, albeit less so than H and others, allowing you to taper off without being sick by allowing some morphine in your system for a longer time - all completely legally at your local grocery store? Even with IV tolerance, for me, $10 worth of bulk seeds (about 1 kg) will save me and leave me feeling good for 12 hours, and not sick for 24. My best advice: find the right seeds, the cheaper the better. Sorry I'm not able to source this I don't think, even for legal seeds. But you WILL find them. Firstly, find the right dose for you - preferably taking away ALL withdrawal but still providing some minimal euphoria so as not to feel your loss so early. It may take a few days to find the right balance based on your personal tolerance, but this is the most important step and well worth it. Mix a whole bunch of tea in advance if possible and keep it refrigerated as you would methadone. It's basically cheaper legal methadone without the hassle of appointments and carries. Take it in the morning if you can and go about your regular routine. Try your best not to dwell on scoring illegal drugs at this point. Remind yourself that at least your withdrawal will be taken care of and you will be able to function more or less normally. Every three days or so, lower your dose by about 150 grams of seeds. I find this to be the best method of tapering as it's slow and less noticeable as you decrease dosage than methadone. Always keep in mind that you ARE CONSUMING MORPHINE AND CODEINE AT THIS POINT. It is not a drug to play around with. Do NOT take massive doses thinking you can get as high as with H. You will not, and you may feel sick at best, and die at worst. Always follow the golden rule and start with the smallest possible amount and drink more if need be. You will always be able to drink more and halt withdrawal. You will not be able to come out of severe respiratory depression. The risk of overdose on seed tea however is exceptionally small, especially considering you will be opiate tolerant at this point anyway.
Now here comes the critical part which enabled me to become entirely clean. Once you are down to about 200g of seeds, do NOT take the tea the following day. Wait for any signs of withdrawal before doing anything else. Judge how uncomfortable you feel at this point. If capable of riding out the rest of mild tea withdrawals (MUCH MUCH easier than H or other potent IV opiates) by all means do it. Otherwise, go to costco or wal mart and get an 84 count of 2 mg generic Imodium (Loperamide). Costco has it for $9.99. Take about 20-30 pills (as LONG AS LOPERAMIDE IS THE ONLY ACTIVE INGREDIENT) for 40-60 mg. Do this again every morning, every 24 hours. This should be safe. Yes, I know it is much higher than the recommended dose, but you have to do this to allow enough of the drug to cross into the brain. Loperamide is a synthetic opioid similar to Fentanyl, but barely crosses the blood-brain barrier. I've never had a problem even with constipation at doses triple this. It should be about the right level to hold your withdrawal symptoms that remain at bay for about 24 hours if you have followed the above tea taper. Yes, it really does work. No, you don't need to turn your body into a chemistry lab by taking potentiators and/or PGP inhibitors. Enough drug at that dose should cross the blood-brain barrier to ease all withdrawal symtoms once again, only now you are off ALL real opiates (morphine) without becoming sick. If you need slightly more, do it but do not go over 80 mg per day. Once again, you will quickly find the right amount that will keep you healthy. Not get you high at all, but take away cravings as well as withdrawal. By now, you should have conditioned your body to function better without being used to the accompanying euphoria. If you don't feel ready, continue the tea until you do.
At this point, lower your dose by 10 mg (5 pills) every 24 hours. Do not double dose daily. Eventually, you'll feel more or less completely normal with ten pills or less. Congratulations - you've more than likely managed to come off a severe addiction without doctor intervention or paying exhorbitant witnessing fees. Once you feel normal with just a few pills per day, continue this as long as you feel it to be psychologically necessary. If you quit entirely at this point, there are nowhere near enough opiates in your body to make you feel any more than the slightest mildest twinge of withdrawal, if that, especially if you do your best not to focus on it. Now you can stop the pills entirely and your body will be clean from opiates. At this point, if you feel the desire to start using ANYTHING again, even seed tea, try going to counselling or even calling Narcotics Anonymous. At the very least, you will have the freedom of no longer needing to go out and score to avoid sickness, and that terrible obsession fades away. Constantly remind yourself how proud you should feel for managing this, especially on your own and constantly think of all the money you're saving and how you can begin to live a normal life again. With any luck, you will be able to stay off opiates long term with minimal risk of relapsing. You may be able to substitute kratom in varying potencies and dosages if you can't or don't want to use the tea, but it's fairly strong and harder to obtain than seeds - not to mention much more expensive.
It took me YEARS to fully discover and perfect this exact method, and keep in mind I used exactly this to come off a 1-2 gram per day heroin habit. I used to be so violently sick upon cold turkey that I'd need to pull over in my car and puke. I was addicted for five years. If i can do it, you certainly can. Always remember that you DO have the power to break this burden, and how happy you used to be simply doing things you enjoy without needing drugs. Your scars will fade, both physical and emotional, and you'll be so much happier.
I KNOW elements of this plan are posted all around the boards, and that many of you will have tried something similar. However just like cooking a recipe, I find this method tweaked, exact, accurate and extremely effective not to mention useful and cheap. I want to share it with as many people as possible. I truly think the key to success here is actually mostly due to weaning yourself onto a drug that still gives you some euphoria. I know many people say it's best to block withdrawal and that's that, but realistically you are going to miss that opiate feeling, and this way provides you with that feeling you would eventually crave detoxing on other methods and more than likely end up relapsing. It's very gradual and extremely effective. It is more realistic. You will still get comfort from the tea, more so than methadone or bupe. Another huge advantage is again how cheap it is to fully and hopefully completely detox from this, using nothing but items at your local grocery store.
Best of luck, and above all, have faith in yourself. PM me if you have any questions or just need support or want to share your stories. If there's anything at all I can do to help, I'd be happy to. If you've been attempting to quit but simply find it too difficult either physically or psychologically, I urge you to try this in the strongest possible terms. Of course, along the way make sure to delete all dealer contacts from your phone, and stop hanging around with people who use or situations which tempt you to use - standard procedure. More than anything else, no matter what point you are at in your personal detox, always know that it WILL get better, and there WILL come a time where you can live your life happily and opiate free without cravings. It may not feel like it, but trust me, it happens. You are stronger than you give yourself credit for, You have the inner strength to do this. Let's ALL let our terrible experiences with this garbage become nothing more than a distant memory which ultimately makes us stronger.
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