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Are you created in God’s image?

Gnostic Bishop

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Are you created in God'simage?

"The God of the OldTestament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous andproud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive,bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal,genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic,capriciously malevolent bully."
¯ Richard Dawkins, The GodDelusion

Deuteronomy 32:4
He is the Rock, his work isperfect

Matthew 5:48
Be ye therefore perfect, evenas your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

Scriptures tell us to be likeGod and emulate all he does as we are to follow in his footsteps.

If you are a Christian, areyou capable of following your God?

Would you be able and willingto do some of the things the bible shows God doing?

Are you created in God’simage?

Regards
DL
 
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Gnostic Bishop said:
If you are a Christian, areyou capable of following your God?

Would you be able and willingto do some of the things the bible shows God doing?

Are you created in God’simage?

Regards
DL

Yes and no. We are all capable of forgiving others and showing love through generosity, peace, etc. Being created in God's image and being God is different. We are not capable of being God, because we have limitations.
 
Christians believe Jesus is the full manifestation of God. If you can give me any examples of Jesus showing 'megalomania' or 'genocidal jealousy' I would be stunned, but you won't.

I think your question is better suited towards Jews or Muslims.
 
I found a man in my image.

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I used to have an image with a tree of life within the first image, and it aligned in certain ways with the second... Looking in ways like mirror images. I may attempt a rough version of what it attempted, but here some imagination may be needed.

The first image I made by editing a picture that I did using a single light source- trying to find 'alignment'. The second image- I found later, after experimenting with this tree of life with mine.
 
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Christians believe Jesus is the full manifestation of God. If you can give me any examples of Jesus showing 'megalomania' or 'genocidal jealousy' I would be stunned, but you won't.

I think your question is better suited towards Jews or Muslims.

I thought Jesus was also a Jew? :?

Also, why would god unwrite the Old Testament and replace it with the New? Did he misspeak, or make a mistake somewhere? Why is the Jesus version of god so unlike the previous version?
 
Christians believe Jesus is the full manifestation of God. If you can give me any examples of Jesus showing 'megalomania' or 'genocidal jealousy' I would be stunned, but you won't.

I think your question is better suited towards Jews or Muslims.

Isn't Jesus supposed to be the human manifestation of Yahweh.. the main character of the Old Testament?

Doesn't Jesus saying: “Eli, Eli,c lemasabachthani?” Kinda prove that Jesus was not the manifestation of God?

I don't mean to high jack a thread but I'm honestly interested in what parts of the Old Testament are credible / true vs Misinterpretations and meddling man..
 
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^I don't think its a thread hijack really as the OP does mention the god of the old testament. I myself have to wonder at the cognitive dissonance required of all Christians in accepting the OT as part of their canon of teachings and yet distancing themselves from the actual stories within.

I think the modern church (I speak mainly of the catholic church, having been raised within it) does deny humanity being made in the image of that particular aspect/version of god. It wants to believe that it has nothing in common with that aspect and wants the world to believe that also. And yet, historically (through the crusades, inquisition, missionary destruction of indigenous cultures, the incessant sexual abuse of children) it has shown itself to have more in common with the Old Testament god then with their eponymous christ.

Of course, the everyday Christian shoulders no real blame for these issues, though denial would be amiss. However, I find it hard to understand the desire to be part of such an institution that requires the holding of such a view, and wonder what doing so at says about such individual. Though, of course, we probably all hold such contradictory opinions. :\


Gotta say, I love this priest below :D:


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Yes and no. We are all capable of forgiving others and showing love through generosity, peace, etc. Being created in God's image and being God is different. We are not capable of being God, because we have limitations.

Sure but you can kill as he does. Are you ready to stone unruly children?

Regards
DL
 
I think he asks whether aspiring towards to petty megalomania and genocidal jealousy is all that worthy.

He knew that I think. Note how he ignored the O.P. and deflected instead.
Do not expect honesty from Christians. You will not get it.

I do not complain though. These responses are forever and many will see who is honest and who is not.

Regards
DL
 
Christians believe Jesus is the full manifestation of God. If you can give me any examples of Jesus showing 'megalomania' or 'genocidal jealousy' I would be stunned, but you won't.

I think your question is better suited towards Jews or Muslims.

Is Jesus not the same God as the O.T. God?

Do you not buy into that foolish Trinity concept?

Regards
DL
 
I try to peer into a deeper meaning behind what was said. I admit I do not know the Bible very well, and don't consider myself a Christian by the standards of others. My religion is also Islam, but not Mohammedan, in that I accept some things as true... Perhaps even the totality, but imperfect. Its hard to explain. I think its all "in Gods image"... Things must eat. How moral is it that I eat this chicken? How 'moral' is it that the human race exists in the first place?

I don't think we can put 'God' on human standards, and it doesn't mean that we need to necessarily follow what earlier people interpreted as God. Or even what another now does. I've seen God, seemingly, make some crazy jokes. I've traveled down the rabbit hole, or into the illusion (?) so far that it seems to break down, and all I'm left with is choice. Choice to love, or give up- find myself in nothing. But my words are so imperfect... "Nothing" leads me to love, sometimes. (Also, it becomes a joke... Seemingly, at times)

While there is a lot of other data, and instructions- God tested Abraham in asking him to kill Isaac... They say, but this was a test (or Abraham was just sort of what some may pass as 'crazy' now and his rational mind won in this case). I don't think things are so clear cut and dry, as we seem to interpret them as. I want to see the reasons things are wanted or instructed in these books, and I often do, no matter how harsh... But... I don't agree, and will defy this God, for a different God. That higher 'moral' God, most of the time.

I think it is impossible that we are not "in the image of" the one true God. But the Old Testament and whatnot are just some words of some people... Not to write it off, but we all have our own choices- our own words, and minds to make them, as dangerous as that may be...
 
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The story of Abraham and his son does beg the question of what God would have done if Abraham wasn't prepared to kill his son..

Abraham didn't come to his senses.. God said: 12 “Do not lay a hand on the boy,” he said. “Do not do anything to him. Now I know that you fear God, because you have not withheld from me your son, your only son.”
 
OP why do you start posts that will create arguments? this is not your 1st probably not your last and you will probably want to argue with me about some religious crap! god dident say any of the above things because it is a story made up by men who in my opinion were probably gay Pedafile,s trying to figure out how they could get away with there Pedophilia! Well congratulations sick fucks it worked!
 
I think this says more than all your posts combined. Some have the Christ consciousness, and some don't. You might want to reconsider what that means.

 
I thought Jesus was also a Jew? :?

Also, why would god unwrite the Old Testament and replace it with the New? Did he misspeak, or make a mistake somewhere? Why is the Jesus version of god so unlike the previous version?

What I meant when I said a Jew was a religious Jew that follows Judaism, oops. :\

I'll attempt to answer your other question, but I'm no scholar or expert and I've only been a Christian for roughly a year so don't expect to get the best answer from me. First understand that God is unchanging, God's attributes don't ever change. It's a misconception to think that God is different in the OT and the NT. God's love and God's wrath are found in both. Jesus is the fulfillment of the old covenant, expanding God's covenant with all people under a new relationship. God's wrath upon sin demands death. God's wrath was poured on Jesus as he bore the sins of the world. Jesus took the eternal wrath of God, and poured onto us eternal love. For God so loved the world...

Ask a pastor or a Bible scholar if you want a more detailed explanation.

http://www.gotquestions.org/God-different.html

Isn't Jesus supposed to be the human manifestation of Yahweh.. the main character of the Old Testament?

Doesn't Jesus saying: “Eli, Eli,c lemasabachthani?” Kinda prove that Jesus was not the manifestation of God?

Is Jesus not the same God as the O.T. God?

Do you not buy into that foolish Trinity concept?

Regards
DL

The Father and the Son are different in that they have different roles, however in essence they are the same in the sense that they are both God. Just like ice and water are both H20, they are different but the same in essence.

The Lion and the Lamb.

Sure but you can kill as he does. Are you ready to stone unruly children?

John 8:2 Now early in the morning He came again into the temple, and all the people came to Him; and He sat down and taught them. 3 Then the scribes and Pharisees brought to Him a woman caught in adultery. And when they had set her in the midst, 4 they said to Him, “Teacher, this woman was caught in adultery, in the very act. 5 Now Moses, in the law, commanded us that such should be stoned. But what do You say?” 6 This they said, testing Him, that they might have something of which to accuse Him. But Jesus stooped down and wrote on the ground with His finger, as though He did not hear. (a theory, by oral tradition and legend, says that Jesus wrote the sins of the Pharisees in the sand)

7 So when they continued asking Him, He raised Himself up and said to them, “He who is without sin among you, let him throw a stone at her first.” 8 And again He stooped down and wrote on the ground. 9 Then those who heard it, being convicted by their conscience, went out one by one, beginning with the oldest even to the last. And Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. 10 When Jesus had raised Himself up and saw no one but the woman, He said to her, “Woman, where are those accusers of yours? Has no one condemned you?”

11 She said, “No one, Lord.”

And Jesus said to her, “Neither do I condemn you; go and sin no more.”

12 Then Jesus spoke to them again, saying, “I am the light of the world. He who follows Me shall not walk in darkness, but have the light of life.”
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The story of Abraham and his son does beg the question of what God would have done if Abraham wasn't prepared to kill his son..

Abraham didn't come to his senses.. God said: 12 “Do not lay a hand on the boy,” he said. “Do not do anything to him. Now I know that you fear God, because you have not withheld from me your son, your only son.”

God already knew Abraham would be willing to sacrifice his son. It's a wonderful story that parallels and foreshadows the Father God's willingness to sacrifice his Son.

Genesis 22:2 Then God said, “Take now your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I shall tell you.”
3: So Abraham rose early in the morning and saddled his donkey, and took two of his young men with him, and Isaac his son
4: Then on the third day Abraham lifted his eyes and saw the place afar off.
8: And Abraham said, “My son, God will provide for Himself the lamb for a burnt offering.”
9: Then they came to the place of which God had told him. And Abraham built an altar there and placed the wood in order; and he bound Isaac his son and laid him on the altar, upon the wood.
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Abraham was to offer his only son whom he loved, compared to God's one and only Son being offered as a sacrifice out of love. Abraham took Issac and 2 others, this parallels with God taking Jesus and the 2 others crucified next to him. It took Abraham's journey 3 days, Jesus raised again from the dead in 3 days. Isaac was to be scarified upon the wood, Jesus was crucified on a wooden cross. Abraham tells his son that God will provide a lamb for a sacrifice. Jesus is the Lamb that was the ultimate sacrifice. Lastly, the highest mountain in “the land of Moriah” where Abraham was to sacrifice his son could possibly be Golgotha where Jesus was crucified.

Gnostic Bishop said:
Note how he ignored the O.P. and deflected instead.

I answered all your questions. Do you want me to clarify? Are we made in God's image? Yes.

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For God so loved the world...actually I think this might have been a bit of showmanship for the sake of humanity.

In modern channelings "Jesus" insists he felt little pain on the cross as he was able to leave his body (should be a small thing for him) and was held in God's arms the whole time...it was a pre-agreement between them.

Come to think of it, why would God make one of his most precious suffer?
 
"Why have you forsaken me?"

Him saying that, is that a lie?

I'm sure he suffered... I'm pretty sure at some point, even he lost faith. How would it be a sacrifice, if he didnt feel pain, and if he wasn't broken at some point?

Suffering can bring strength. We suffer, to learn.
 
But we don't know he said that or what in the Bible is a lie.

It might not be that it was the original plan for Jesus' life to be "sacrificed" but more to represent an embodiment of divinity and teach people about a more loving God.

So much is made of the crucifiction, which is the most depressing part of the story, why not put the emphasis more on all the wonderful things he did before?

The message it gives is:

Someone who will follow in his footsteps will end up being tortured (and it's the reality of this world).
 
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