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Are you conscious of preserving your image when you indulge in drugs ?

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When I do drugs like cocaine I try keep it hush hush almost obsessively at times, but alas people still know. When I do it frequently (bi monthly) I minimize it to other people outside of my inner circle (mainly cos I was seen as a bit of a druggie years ago). Wish I could be a cool and just not care about my image, but it probably keeps me on the straight and narrow (well largely anyway).

So do you guys keep it on the down low when you do drugs with a bit of stigma ?
 
generally when i use a specific drug, i use it alone.....or with people who use the same substance, and dont give it much thought.........
 
Yes, I am. I really do not like to come off as "out of control" or "beyond my limits" when I'm on drugs. I feel I have a duty to be an exemplary drug user, who isn't impossible for someone who isn't on whatever I'm on to get along with. I don't want to uphold the stereotype that drug users are crazy, scary, reckless, or untrustworthy. Every time I'm fuctup, I aim to be able to walk straight and have a rational conversation with a sober person. I try to remember the names of people I meet when I'm high, and even remember the conversation points we have.

If I'm with a group of people who are all using the same drug(s) I am, I don't worry about looking or smelling like I'm on something. But if I'm out in public around sober people, I must admit I do feel ashamed if someone smells alcohol or weed on my breath, or sees my pupils dilated or a ghoulish grin on my face, and do my best to hide these signs if I need to interact with the general public. People notice, people judge. You never know when this kind of thing can come back to haunt you. I might have thought differently about this before I had a career and a family.
 
Fully. You gotta think about more now than before. People definitely judge and most gossip whether maliciously or under the guise of benevolence (worried about him he's out of control etc). Find it best to preserve a good name and image for peace of mind, you never know whose gonna talk to who about what.
 
I've realized more and more lately to keep my experimental drug use on the DL, as well as what drugs I would like to take in the future. A lot of my friends just don't have the same mindset as me, and think things like ketamine are way too hard, even though I'd like to try it. But sometimes I feel like I'm getting judged for trying out RCs. Because of the long, weird chemical names, when I talk about it, I feel like people just start to zone out.
 
This thread is almost blog-worthy, but it actually raises an interesting issue that I've thought about once or twice before.

I used to care a lot more about my appearance and what others thought of me, but now, I see no reason to, really. It's not that I advertise my drug use, that I'm proud, or that I am a drug advocate of some kind, but I like to sniff dope every now and again, and I am comfortable with who I am, what I do and how I do it.

I feel like "to preserve one's image" is almost a very, uhm, what's the word that I'm looking for... well, it's a bit ridiculous because it implies that you're doing something or acting in a way that is not how you would like others to perceive you; it's not "who you are," when really, it's exactly who you are. I guess that I appreciate honesty more than anything else, and so I have no problem with others seeing me for who I really am.

I'm just a guy who works, makes a bit of money, likes to stay inside and watch movies on the weekend with his girlfriend and maybe one or two other friends, and I like to pick up a bit of dope every now and again to unwind. If that's "my image," then I'm OK with that.
 
i agree with both my doors are open and verso.......

this topic actually has so much more to it than i first thought......
 
i should preserve my "image"/reputation for the sake of gossip and people talking shit, but regrettably i dont keep hush about my drug usage or try and hide it. and in some ways im proud of the fact ive tried things like DMT. i only get wrecked on the weekends, im no addict or anything, but ive developed a bit of a reputation for being a drug using wreckhead over the past couple of years. but ive had a rep for being a drunk for many years... but typically because its socially acceptable nobody really gossips about that. i have no shame in my drug use, and couldn't give a shit about what other people think about me using drugs. in my eyes if they criticize me they're all hypocrites, as pretty much everybody i know like to get drunk and lose control, sometimes fight, all kinds of stuff. whereas i drink and do drugs but dont cause any trouble, have the best times of my life and enjoy myself. alcohol = a dangerous drug, as you all know. in my eyes its all in the same "drug" category regardless of the fact its legal or not. as its all drugs. but obviously a lot of people dont have this mindset... they typically think drugs = bad, alcohol = fine, socially acceptable and legal. they need to wake the fuck up. i had some people criticizing me and having a go at me last weekend for doing mdma, mephedrone etc (long story) and even got called a smackhead.... which is complete and utter bollocks. they said this whilst drunk out of their face, and it almost ended up in a fight. at the end of the day its got fuck all to do with them what i do... my body.... they can take their opinions and go fuck themselves
 
verso and ColtDan, you must be in lines of work (and residential neighborhoods, and social circles, etc.) where open drug use is socially acceptable. I'm not in that position by a long shot, and I reckon I'm hardly the only one here who hasn't that luxury.

Plus, even among people who know I use drugs and don't judge me for it, insh'Allah, I don't ever want it rubbed in my face that I'm an example of how drugs inevitably ruin perfectly good people, despite good intentions. Because then I'd have a duty to them to give up drugs entirely if I wished to keep their respect. Because I have no plans to completely quit, ever. Yeah, I might let the world see me as a mangled, blithering, bodily fluid soaked mess if I were a young adolescent male who was out to "get it out of my system while I'm young, before I get serious about life". Judge me all you want, but drugs are a part of my serious life. And as such, I treat any decision to use drugs with due seriousness.
 
^Well said. I don't want to really speak my mind about drugs with most people as it's not a topic that can just be approached casually. If someone is open to learning about the topic, I'll discuss it with them, but I'm not about to argue against a prejudiced person.

When it comes to how I act while on drugs, most of the drugs that I do are in private as I consider them "mind drugs" best used for meditation. I've tried to get past using drugs in a social way as that is a bit of a crutch and negatively impacts my development. I use cannabis in a social way occasionally with people I'm comfortable with, but I view this as more of a spiritual experience that I'm sharing with others. I don't use purely pleasure-oriented drugs that often, but if I were to, I'd prefer low doses that no one could notice. I don't want for people to think that the way I'm acting is because of drugs, which would be the case if the dose was large enough to visibly impair me.
 
^ True about arguing with the prejudiced. Drugs, in my mind, are right up there with politics, religion, and sex -- things that are just not safe or appropriate topics of conversation with people you're not sure respect your views on the matter, because most people's opinions on these matters are strong and emotionally charged. I do not have the high level sorts of social graces it takes to barge in with one of these sensitive topics in mixed company, and steer whole conversation in a way that leaves a good taste in everyone's mouth. If you're one of those people, proudaya. If you're not one of those people, but you are the sort of person who just enjoys shooting from the hip and being a conversational bull in a china shop, not so proudaya -- tact and discretion have their place, especially when you're not a cute little kid or a rebellious teenager anymore.

I'm even careful whom I'll talk about which drugs with. My mention of ketamine use has hung very heavy in the air, even among some people who toke and trip like there's no tomorrow. This is similar to how there are some people I can speak my mind on foreign policy with, but not educational policy.
 
verso said:
This thread is almost blog-worthy, but it actually raises an interesting issue that I've thought about once or twice before.

I used to care a lot more about my appearance and what others thought of me, but now, I see no reason to, really. It's not that I advertise my drug use, that I'm proud, or that I am a drug advocate of some kind, but I like to sniff dope every now and again, and I am comfortable with who I am, what I do and how I do it.

I feel like "to preserve one's image" is almost a very, uhm, what's the word that I'm looking for... well, it's a bit ridiculous because it implies that you're doing something or acting in a way that is not how you would like others to perceive you; it's not "who you are," when really, it's exactly who you are. I guess that I appreciate honesty more than anything else, and so I have no problem with others seeing me for who I really am.

I'm just a guy who works, makes a bit of money, likes to stay inside and watch movies on the weekend with his girlfriend and maybe one or two other friends, and I like to pick up a bit of dope every now and again to unwind. If that's "my image," then I'm OK with that.
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I feel the same way, I just can't be as open given my friends at work, and most especially with my family. But my few close friends and my boyfriend, (obviously), are well aware and are free to ask. I do what I do and I am who I am. The important thing is that I am in control of myself and my drug use does not impair my ability to function at work or school.

I will say though that the only person who truly knows exactly what I do, and the extent of my drug use is my boyfriend, obviously. Any of my friends, should they ask, are free to know. I guess they just don't really suspect that I enjoy pills and dope as much as I do, but I'm not actively hiding it from anyone but my family, (because using drugs of any kind would not fly).
 
I quit caring about what people think via revelations from psychedelic drug use. So no, I'm not really conscious of what other people think. I've always kind of had the attitude if someone had a problem with me about something like that, that they should fuck themselves as I don't really see anything wrong with using drugs-I just don't understand why there is a stigma. I've never really been an addict but I've tried almost every drug I can get my hands on-barring the more potent opiates, benzos, and stimulants.

From my point of view, you can either use or not use but it shouldn't be something that is a big deal. I don't want to feel bad about experimentation. It could also be my age though, I'm only 18.
 
^ agreed. I couldn't give two shits what people think whether I'm completely fucked up or not (unless it's the cops). I'm surprised at the posts above, it sounds like using drugs makes you feel shame/guilt? it's not anyone else's business what you do which is why I don't care. Plus if you look fucked up all the time other druggies can find you easier and getting good hook ups is far more simple.
 
Well man one thing ive learned over the years, is to not give a fuck. I mean if there is cops around, give a fuck..If family is around, give a fuck...if anybody else is around i could care less. Im proud of who i am and what i do.
Yea today i went to the coinstar in walmart high on some codeine syrup, few shots of whiskey, and a blunt roach, like 1/3 the blunt. ANd ya know man i was dressed like a bum with a 10 pound bag of penneis feeding them in the slot, all the while it is makeing the noise like a damn shooting gallery, but ya know i just dont care. Its MY business and its not hurting anyone so fuck off nosy people.
I treat people with respect, and kindness even when they give negative gestures or comments, so they can hate if they want but they are just making up reasons if they do haha
 
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^ agreed. I couldn't give two shits what people think whether I'm completely fucked up or not (unless it's the cops). I'm surprised at the posts above, it sounds like using drugs makes you feel shame/guilt? it's not anyone else's business what you do which is why I don't care. Plus if you look fucked up all the time other druggies can find you easier and getting good hook ups is far more simple.
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How can it not be someone's business if you're on drugs? It IS their business as everyone is responsible for being aware of their surroundings, your actions included. You're the one putting it out there for them to see, and it is naive to think that they should dismiss their (true) impulse reaction towards you.

If you're trying to present yourself as a responsible adult, being obviously fucked up is counterproductive. Progressing in social or business networks is impacted by people knowing you're a drug user. Maybe it shouldn't be the case but it is.

Also, I'm not really looking to associate with "druggies" as I don't consider myself one. I'm a contributing member of society who uses drugs responsibly.
 
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I don''t care if people know that I am high on marijuana. As far as other drugs (which for me would be mainly opiates), I am usually not with people that would be able to tell so it is not an issue. I don't nod out really, but get a hype instead, so I do try to talk a bit less if I feel like people think that something is up. If I am around people that can tell, then it is usually because they are high as well, or get high in general.
 
Pegasus, I don't think an impulse reaction is fair. I think the reaction would be caused by peoples' stereotypes of users. People may look at me (before recently as I've gotten cleaned up looking for upcoming court) and think things about me but I've never stolen a thing and as far as money goes, though I feel comfortable, I also remain fiscally responsible and don't just blow money. I think there should be a separation of bums and people who use dugs. People who look like bums aren't necessarily bums and I don't think anyone should assume something about someone based on image. I know a few millionaires (not trying to brag) that are incredibly frugal but by looking at them, you'd think they were poor. I've even had people with much less money talk about wealthy people when they have no idea what the actual case is. Image is a tricky thing, my friend.

You are right, however, about progression in a business world, I just don't think its right );
 
@ Pegasus: I get what you mean about my drug use having an affect on the people around me (worrying friends, family, putting gf through bullshit) but other than those close to me I don't really care. I hate how business works but I've hung out with a few higher ups while high as shit on benzos and they were slurring their words worse than me (or high on coke) which always gave me an in with certain people. (not that I do this on purpose or anything). And drugs are prevalent in the business world as well.

I'm mostly a psychedelic user who fucked up with other drugs. I honestly don't care if I'm out in public high on 2c-e and look strange or something (although I avoid these situations). Being on opiates/benzos has had detrimental effects in my work and relationships so I agree with you at least on that point.

Mostly my point is not to let what other people think affect you; I really have no desire to climb to the top and join the rat race that this bullshit capitalist society ingrains into everyone's head, but yes I know being obviously fucked up is counter-productive and I don't do that any more, at least not in public or around my family.

People can think what they want, I don't mind, I just won't let it get me down and besides I'm getting clean but I will still likely trip with my gf in our home every now and then; watching movies/tv, playing video games, playing guitar or hanging around outside without too much concern on how people perceive my actions. (so long as I'm not hurting anyone, i don't see the harm?). I can't see how anyone should be bothered by that?

Ethically I can back this up with utilitarianism lol, or by just being a hedonist. I'm free to do as I please so long as it doesn't interfere with another person's freedom to do as they please. Either way, I get what you are saying.

And the word 'druggie' is stigmatized. Just because you used what our society defines as a 'drug' doesn't make you a bad person or a druggie. You wouldn't stop hanging out with a good friend because they have a few beers on the weekend or get high occasionally would you? I think this black and white view is entirely made up; there's a whole spectrum of drug use that goes from responsible to dangerous and I avoid the dangerous now. If i were born in a different society/time/culture I would be considered a medicine man or shaman and not a drug user.

Even if you use drugs responsibly and are a contributing member of society (I am as well believe it or not) someone may still think you are a druggie junky loser just for smoking marijuana occasionally, which is what I was getting at; who cares what those kinds of people think?
 
i dont give a fuck what the people think,most of the people i know that are in the 25 to 30 age range that live around here know i like get off my head,shit ive made scandals in i think all the clubs drunk and coked out of my mind getting into fights for absolutely no reason, offcourse if im around some business asociate or lawyer even if we drink a few beers together then i will always try to be as discreet as possible when i go to the toilet and do a line.
 
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