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Are we being flagged by customs?
- Thread starter Dr. JK
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it is totally safe to buy a tester since the test itself is not illegal, but ecstasy is of course. As far as flagging is concerned I wouldn't worry too much about it.
From another standpoint I would argue that buying a test from abroad is safer then getting one domestically, as the organization from abroad can never be forced to open their records for any official party.
From another standpoint I would argue that buying a test from abroad is safer then getting one domestically, as the organization from abroad can never be forced to open their records for any official party.
I know the test kit is safe/legal, but obviously it is used for pill testing.
I am not concerned about the package or the sender, but rather the purchaser/receiver.
Kits like these if they are followed, can raise suspision on the person(s) who are buying it and for what reason.
I just want to know if our (recievers) address would be flagged for suspision and give authorities a reason to monitor..
Thanks for the feedback
I am not concerned about the package or the sender, but rather the purchaser/receiver.
Kits like these if they are followed, can raise suspision on the person(s) who are buying it and for what reason.
I just want to know if our (recievers) address would be flagged for suspision and give authorities a reason to monitor..
Thanks for the feedback
Reason to monitor what? Your mail - like gas bills? Horror stories like 'my friend's friend once tried pot and is now addicted to crack?' Or horror stories like Dracula?
Think of the odd millions of people around the world that consume illicits - are authorities really going to bother going after someone who wants to practise harm reduction on a personal amount in their own house? No.
Think of the odd millions of people around the world that consume illicits - are authorities really going to bother going after someone who wants to practise harm reduction on a personal amount in their own house? No.
Soma,
Do you think authorities know much about the test kits and who is using it for what purpose? They don't.
The authorities, including customs, do not know why we are purchasing the test kits. Do they? No, because it could be for a number of reasons.
All they know it is used for testing beans or whatever you want to call them. and that may be enough for them to know in order to raise any suspicion whether right or wrong.
I am not saying it will happen, but it may. Cases of mistaken identities/facts happen all the time.
We have a right to our privacy/freedom but that is not the case all the time and no one needs any aggrevation/problems.
Can you or someone else say that the shipments of test kits will pass through without any flags?
If so I will retract my statement/questions and we can close the issue.
But in any case there is no need for any sarcasm, it's not needed.
Peace
Do you think authorities know much about the test kits and who is using it for what purpose? They don't.
The authorities, including customs, do not know why we are purchasing the test kits. Do they? No, because it could be for a number of reasons.
All they know it is used for testing beans or whatever you want to call them. and that may be enough for them to know in order to raise any suspicion whether right or wrong.
I am not saying it will happen, but it may. Cases of mistaken identities/facts happen all the time.
We have a right to our privacy/freedom but that is not the case all the time and no one needs any aggrevation/problems.
Can you or someone else say that the shipments of test kits will pass through without any flags?
If so I will retract my statement/questions and we can close the issue.
But in any case there is no need for any sarcasm, it's not needed.
Peace
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Morrison's Lament
Bluelighter
It depends on where you live, back in Iceland (where I used to live) - you can DEFINITELY get in deep trouble for a pill tester. It is "drug paraphenalia" in their eyes and you may get a fine AND be flagged by customs. But most likely they would just seize it and send your name and details to the drug squad.
Happened to a friend of mine - and he was just ordering some gardening supplies - they checked his age and seeing a 19 year old that lives alone buying plant food is apparently "just cause" in that country...
But in any reasonable place you would be fairly safe.
--- G.
Happened to a friend of mine - and he was just ordering some gardening supplies - they checked his age and seeing a 19 year old that lives alone buying plant food is apparently "just cause" in that country...
But in any reasonable place you would be fairly safe.
--- G.
ML,
That is my point exactly, i.e. in the eyes of the law test kits CAN be considered as "drug paraphernalia" and CAN be enough for just cause for search warrents, phone taps and other surveillances, to invade our privacy.
The whole thing about this is that we don't know if we are being watched.
I just want to know do the testers raise the level of suspicion by customs and authorities.
By the way I live in Canada.
That is my point exactly, i.e. in the eyes of the law test kits CAN be considered as "drug paraphernalia" and CAN be enough for just cause for search warrents, phone taps and other surveillances, to invade our privacy.
The whole thing about this is that we don't know if we are being watched.
I just want to know do the testers raise the level of suspicion by customs and authorities.
By the way I live in Canada.
Morrison's Lament
Bluelighter
I am kind of doubtful that Canadian police and customs can allow themselves to behave in this way - even in America the outcry would be too loud and people would sue or start getting charges thrown out of court.
Smaller places - with more fascistic governments - can allow themselves to give out draconian court rulings. It was once ruled in Iceland, for example, that the spirit of drug laws was to prevent harm to the community - and thus anything that prevented drugs from harming the community was in accordance with the law!
I don't know if this stood up in all cases - but I do know it was used to seize large quantities of MDXX type chemicals before they were even mentioned in any law - they were totally legal but deemed "harmful to society" and thus any action to protect society is legal. Most of the people in posession at this time were not getting in any serious trouble - but those that had tried to import them were charged with crimes and you can bet your ass they were on a "watch these fuckers" list for a long time after that.
HOWEVER - I really doubt you can get away with that kind of bullshit in most places - so in theory you should be safe. Especially in Canada
--- G.
Smaller places - with more fascistic governments - can allow themselves to give out draconian court rulings. It was once ruled in Iceland, for example, that the spirit of drug laws was to prevent harm to the community - and thus anything that prevented drugs from harming the community was in accordance with the law!
I don't know if this stood up in all cases - but I do know it was used to seize large quantities of MDXX type chemicals before they were even mentioned in any law - they were totally legal but deemed "harmful to society" and thus any action to protect society is legal. Most of the people in posession at this time were not getting in any serious trouble - but those that had tried to import them were charged with crimes and you can bet your ass they were on a "watch these fuckers" list for a long time after that.
HOWEVER - I really doubt you can get away with that kind of bullshit in most places - so in theory you should be safe. Especially in Canada
--- G.
JustinTime
Bluelighter
ML
I live in Sweden, and I think that they would do something similar.
I live in Sweden, and I think that they would do something similar.
Morrison's Lament
Bluelighter
What is it with Nordic countries? 
--- G.
--- G.
JustinTime
Bluelighter
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I guess Iceland was to small for you, right?
I guess Iceland was to small for you, right?
Morrison's Lament
Bluelighter
JustinTime: Way too small and closed minded. For one thing, cops and customs have absolute discretion to do anything they want - no one ever gets anything overturned. You'd need signed confessions from the cops or something
--- G.
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Petersko
Bluelighter
Canada customs seized all three testers that I had ordered.
I got three letters indicating that each had been seized because I was trying to import something that contained a subtance not allowed by Canada Post.
Since a major component of the tester is hydrochloric acid, I can understand this.
Just FYI.
I got three letters indicating that each had been seized because I was trying to import something that contained a subtance not allowed by Canada Post.
Since a major component of the tester is hydrochloric acid, I can understand this.
Just FYI.
I've received 2 parcels from overseas, 2 bottles of 5HTP and 1 tester kit in separate shipments around a year apart. The 5HTP was intercepted and opened by customs and checked, confirmed that it was as described and then sent through. I know this because of the sticker on the front they put on it describing what happened. They didn't break the seals on the bottles.
The tester kit came straight through without any sort of note from customs on it and hadn't been opened. I doubt they even looked at the package, although it's possible that was to just lull me into a false sense of security. But if so, why not do the same with the 5HTP?
The tester kit came straight through without any sort of note from customs on it and hadn't been opened. I doubt they even looked at the package, although it's possible that was to just lull me into a false sense of security. But if so, why not do the same with the 5HTP?
I doubt they even looked at the package, although it's possible that was to just lull me into a false sense of security.
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do not get too paranoid guys! The test itself is not illegal and will go thru customs without a problem. customs do not track tests as to catch drug users, it is not their duty.
if you want to be really safe: stay away from drugs!
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do not get too paranoid guys! The test itself is not illegal and will go thru customs without a problem. customs do not track tests as to catch drug users, it is not their duty.
if you want to be really safe: stay away from drugs!
toolazy2think
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customs cant possibly open every package that comes into the country, maybe yours was just one of the ones that wasnt opened
GrOwThSpUrT
Bluelighter
I used to surf OG(overgrow) a lot, and they had some people there that also ordered LEGAL things, such as 400watt lightbulbs, or soil, and were busted down by DEA only days later. so if i lived in a country like America, I wouldn`t even dream of ordering pilltesting kits, hell yeah, they might follow you. I know, I`m gonna get flamed for this.
but at least, if it happens to some1, it`s not gonna be me...
but at least, if it happens to some1, it`s not gonna be me...