Are these considered rare drugs?

[Akane]

I was browsing old threads and in one people were discussing rare drugs they have done. Some guy mentioned Lormetazepam and Clobazam.

These are 2 benzos.

Lormetazepam is prescribed to my sister for insomnia and my mum is prescribed Clobazam as one of her anti epilepsy meds (she doesn't take it though). This in Italy. I live in the UK instead.

I wouldn't think they're rare. Maybe not commonly abused or known among drug users.

Clobazam is not really recreative at all. The therapeutic dosage is 10mg and I have taken a couple 10mg tablets together with either tramadol or dihydrocodeine as I have read it potentiates them... I was running out of my DHC and needed to avoid withdrawal symptoms so that's why I added my mum's clobazam. Also, because I know she doesn't take them so wouldn't suffer any damage from me using them. In the end I was taking one of my mum's tramadol tablets that also have paracetamol combined with the clobazam to manage. Just one tramadol because it was her prescription and she needs it.

I only remember that one morning I woke up with a nose strip on my nose. My sister claimed I had put it on myself but I can't remember this at all. I wonder if clobazam gave me amnesia. I only took 20mg max so it seems strange. It's not very sedative I read. It's basically just useful if you suffer from epilepsy.

As for lormetazepam. I can't see any difference with the other benzodiazepine my sister takes, Lorazepam. She takes either one of them, not together.
I took a therapeutic dosage of lormetazepam to help me sleep when I was back in Italy for the holidays and it didn't do much for me. Same with Lorazepam. I know lormetazepam isn't licenced in the US so maybe it's rare for US people. It's not any different from Lorazepam.

Personally I don't find benzodiazepines recreative. I have only tried those three and also diazepam. None made me feel euphoric. My mum was also prescribed Xanax, but that one I have never touched it because I didn't have a need for it at the time. If I take a benzodiazepine it is because I am trying to sleep.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

You're pretty lucky to have lormetazepam and other benzodiazepine options. Other countries allow for a lot of options for medications and aren't so rigid/controlled by the pharmaceutical industry.

 

[Akane]

In italy, though, all narcotics, codeine included, are strictly on prescription only.

Yes, benzodiazepines aren't too hard to get from a psychiatrist there. I know Xanax here in the UK is out of the question. They prescribed it in Italy to my mum for her anxiety whilst doing speech therapy due to a stroke (which is why she's on anti epilepsy meds as it left her with a form of epilepsy). She is not taking it any longer. She doesn't like feeling sedated, so that's why she doesn't take her Clobazam (it's called Frisium and it's an add on med for her epilepsy). She has no idea about meds and their effects and just takes everything as prescribed.

Here in the UK where I've been living for the past 10 years, you can get your hands on even a bit of morphine OTC. No benzodiazepines but I don't find them particularly interesting.

When I left in December after spending the Xmas holidays at home, my sister let me have a bottle of Lorazepam. I put it in the checked luggage and had no problems. It wasn't like I had tens of it anyway so unlikely to cause any issues.

Still have some left.

I went looking through my mum's meds one day and came across an expired bottle of Valium. She used that to end her spams. I went to show her and she snatched it and wouldn't let me have it back. She said it was expired so she would take it to be disposed of lol.

 

[jose ribas da silva]

the best benzo I have taken is cloxazolam. I would make some effort to try to find it online, because it is only marketed in some countries.

 

[Wilson Wilson]

The lormetazepam is very rare stuff. I've only ever known one person to get it in the UK. It was from a private clinic that charged them £100 a month just to write the script. Supposedly it's very nice and recreational but never had it myself. Not sure the NHS even scripts it but private docs do if you pay them enough from what I've seen.

Clobazam is also fairly rare but basically inactive for psychoactive effects. I've seen it a few times in the UK, the NHS does script it, but it's useless.

As for Italy, I have heard of people going into small local pharmacies and walking out with Valium and Xanax from corrupt pharmacists. Opioids are strictly controlled across most of Europe but benzos it varies by country. In France you won't get them without a script but doctors hand out scripts like sweets from what I'm told. Also I'm going to Greece on holiday soon so I looked up the deal there, apparently it's the same with opioids where even codeine is very strictly controlled (will just bring my own DHC) but benzos are meant to be pretty easy to get from the local doctors especially if you bring a prescription from your own country. But not sure that's really worth the bother, might as well just stick a few blisters of diazepam and clonazepam in my luggage and enjoy my holiday rather than doctor shopping lol.

I'd give it a go next time I'm in France though...

 

[Akane]

The lormetazepam is very rare stuff. I've only ever known one person to get it in the UK. It was from a private clinic that charged them £100 a month just to write the script. Supposedly it's very nice and recreational but never had it myself. Not sure the NHS even scripts it but private docs do if you pay them enough from what I've seen.

Clobazam is also fairly rare but basically inactive for psychoactive effects. I've seen it a few times in the UK, the NHS does script it, but it's useless.

As for Italy, I have heard of people going into small local pharmacies and walking out with Valium and Xanax from corrupt pharmacists. Opioids are strictly controlled across most of Europe but benzos it varies by country. In France you won't get them without a script but doctors hand out scripts like sweets from what I'm told. Also I'm going to Greece on holiday soon so I looked up the deal there, apparently it's the same with opioids where even codeine is very strictly controlled (will just bring my own DHC) but benzos are meant to be pretty easy to get from the local doctors especially if you bring a prescription from your own country. But not sure that's really worth the bother, might as well just stick a few blisters of diazepam and clonazepam in my luggage and enjoy my holiday rather than doctor shopping lol.

I'd give it a go next time I'm in France though...

Personally I didn't think lormetazepam was anything different from lorazepam but I am not a lover of benzos and I don't have a tolerance so maybe I can't grasp subtle differences.

Well it could happen that you could get meds that were available usually on prescription only without one if the pharmacist knew you well (you were a regular customer etc). I know they would let my mum buy Aulin (nimesulide) for example without a prescription because they knew her. We never bought controlled meds so wouldn't know about those ones.

They also let my mum get her tramadol and the following time she goes there (which is often as she is on lots of stuff as she also has rheumatoid arthritis and diabetes) she brings them the doc's prescription; this happens when she runs out and hasn't had a chance to see the doc yet. They let her because they know her and know she isn't gonna misuse it. They wouldn't do that with a new customer.

I also know in Italy it's not hard to get scripted stuff like sodium oxybate if you are an alcoholic. It's called Alcover there. I know because there was a big murder case that involved the two murderers using it to drug their victim and kill him. Apparently one of the two murderers had Alcover scripted due to alcoholism.

I don't think Italy has a culture of abusing prescription drugs... nobody there does codeine for example. It's classics like heroin or cocaine and ecstasy or amphetamines as far as I know. Not stuff like Adderall because it's not used there. The fact almost no one would go and abuse pharmaceuticals might be why they're not so tight with benzos etc. I doubt the average Italian knows about stuff like GHB.

 

[Wilson Wilson]

Well it could happen that you could get meds that were available usually on prescription only without one if the pharmacist knew you well (you were a regular customer etc).

This makes sense. I think a lot of pharmacists got in trouble for selling to tourists so now they play it safe by only selling prescription meds to people they know as you said. For example in Spain a lot of Brits used to buy benzos and zopiclone OTC and they clamped down on that since.

They even do the same in the UK if you know the right pharmacist though. Those pharmacies with Arabic names are often run by dodgy pharmacists who will sell drugs like diazepam, tramadol, and even Oramorph without a prescription but there's been a few undercover reporters busting them for it so they're more clever now and only sell to people they know. They also usually don't sell to white people. I noticed when they send reporters in they are Asian journalists. But it does happen in the UK for certain.

Pharmacy regulation in the UK is surprisingly lax... I have had a pharmacy give me double my prescribed amount of DHC, 200 pills instead of 100, and no one ever seemed to notice. My mate got given extra Ritalin and the pharmacist just said yeah there's extra in there, just keep it. Oramorph is somehow not a controlled drug so is not subject to the same record keeping checks as oxy for example is, so easy to let a bottle go now and then and they get swiped from hospitals all the time by nurses etc.

I have heard in Greece that they sell non-controlled prescription drugs OTC to anyone even tourists, for example SSRIs and antibiotics. Not sure about Italy, but I have just heard stories of people who try enough small local pharmacies and eventually will find one willing to sell benzos. Opiates are a no-go though, too strictly controlled even codeine. I've read from people who have severe chronic pain that they are lucky if they get co-codamol.

 

[Akane]

This makes sense. I think a lot of pharmacists got in trouble for selling to tourists so now they play it safe by only selling prescription meds to people they know as you said. For example in Spain a lot of Brits used to buy benzos and zopiclone OTC and they clamped down on that since.

They even do the same in the UK if you know the right pharmacist though. Those pharmacies with Arabic names are often run by dodgy pharmacists who will sell drugs like diazepam, tramadol, and even Oramorph without a prescription but there's been a few undercover reporters busting them for it so they're more clever now and only sell to people they know. They also usually don't sell to white people. I noticed when they send reporters in they are Asian journalists. But it does happen in the UK for certain.

Pharmacy regulation in the UK is surprisingly lax... I have had a pharmacy give me double my prescribed amount of DHC, 200 pills instead of 100, and no one ever seemed to notice. My mate got given extra Ritalin and the pharmacist just said yeah there's extra in there, just keep it. Oramorph is somehow not a controlled drug so is not subject to the same record keeping checks as oxy for example is, so easy to let a bottle go now and then and they get swiped from hospitals all the time by nurses etc.

I have heard in Greece that they sell non-controlled prescription drugs OTC to anyone even tourists, for example SSRIs and antibiotics. Not sure about Italy, but I have just heard stories of people who try enough small local pharmacies and eventually will find one willing to sell benzos. Opiates are a no-go though, too strictly controlled even codeine. I've read from people who have severe chronic pain that they are lucky if they get co-codamol.

Well my mum in Italy has severe rheumatoid arthritis and still gets only tramadol mixed with paracetamol. This after she went to see a specialist in Milan. Her normal family doctor was useless.

Anyway she likes her ibuprofen more as she says it acts quicker than tramadol. If she was scripted oxycodone I could finally get to sample it when I visit but we will see. She doesn't complain so they're not gonna change the painkiller any time soon I think. I'd like to see if that gets rid of my pain completely.
I don't recall ever hearing about codeine until I moved here in the UK. Not something that's usually prescribed there.

I get my DHC prescribed online (hate seeing the GP in person) and once they sent me two boxes. I had only paid for one prescription. The packages had the same barcode and the postman was unable to scan both. They wouldn't have known they sent me two. What I think happened was that they didn't realise they had processed the parcel already and processed another one. That was a lucky day for me.
I got scripted zolpidem easily by mentioning my insomnia after a night shift. Same with modafinil and shift work disorder. That they aren't OTC isn't a big issue. I have also got pregabalin prescribed quite easily due to sciatica before they decided to make it into a scheduled drug :/

I know there are dodgy pharmacists but I would never have the cheek to attempt to ask for a controlled drug and see if they give it to me without a prescription. I got the impression pharmacists here are all very uptight from the few times I went into a physical pharmacy.

 

[Wilson Wilson]

Well my mum in Italy has severe rheumatoid arthritis and still gets only tramadol mixed with paracetamol. This after she went to see a specialist in Milan. Her normal family doctor was useless.

Anyway she likes her ibuprofen more as she says it acts quicker than tramadol. If she was scripted oxycodone I could finally get to sample it when I visit but we will see. She doesn't complain so they're not gonna change the painkiller any time soon I think. I'd like to see if that gets rid of my pain completely.
I don't recall ever hearing about codeine until I moved here in the UK. Not something that's usually prescribed there.

I get my DHC prescribed online (hate seeing the GP in person) and once they sent me two boxes. I had only paid for one prescription. The packages had the same barcode and the postman was unable to scan both. They wouldn't have known they sent me two. What I think happened was that they didn't realise they had processed the parcel already and processed another one. That was a lucky day for me.
I got scripted zolpidem easily by mentioning my insomnia after a night shift. Same with modafinil and shift work disorder. That they aren't OTC isn't a big issue. I have also got pregabalin prescribed quite easily due to sciatica before they decided to make it into a scheduled drug :/

I know there are dodgy pharmacists but I would never have the cheek to attempt to ask for a controlled drug and see if they give it to me without a prescription. I got the impression pharmacists here are all very uptight from the few times I went into a physical pharmacy.

Yeah see getting just tramadol/paracetamol for arthritis is pretty crazy to me. My gran has the same condition and has been given codeine, DHC, tramadol, morphine, tapentadol, and buprenorphine at various points. No oxy but I think that's due to the local NHS CCG. NICE guidelines say to script oxy to a patient who does not respond to morphine so she should have been given oxy really and would get it if she argued the case I'm sure.

That two boxes of DHC from the online pharmacy thing happened to my mate too. I am guessing you use the same site, I won't name it since I think it crosses the line into sourcing but we both know the one we mean. Bloody mad they just hand out DHC online. They also text discount codes and sometimes their system bugs out and lets you order your next script early. It is crazy it is all warnings about how it is for short-term use only and causes addiction... but they text you each month letting you know you can order again and they throw a discount code in there. And that is legal because technically under the Medicines Act, dihydrocodeine 30mg is uncontrolled, only the higher doses are controlled. See that's lax regulations for you lmao.

If they really wanted to they could script Oramorph online too but I am guessing they know they'd draw attention from the regulator if they went that far.

I am surprised you get zolpidem so easily in the UK, that's actually a pretty rare script over here. I have heard modafinil is usually hard to get too even though it is uncontrolled. Pregabalin they used to just throw at anyone before it was controlled though for sure. Same with tramadol, just a few years ago it was uncontrolled and it was everywhere because GP's just handed it out to anyone. To this day the NHS seems to prefer tramadol to other opioids but it depends on the CCG you're dealing with.

As for pharmacies yeah it's not really worth the bother trying to find a dodgy one in the UK unless you actually know someone who can vouch for you. Besides codeine linctus is legally OTC and DHC is so easy to get scripted. Wouldn't mind a dodgy doc or pharmacist hooking me up with Oramorph though!

 

[ChemicallyEnhanced]

I've heard of both of them but only very occasionally so I'd say yeah, they're pretty rare.

 

[Akane]

Yeah see getting just tramadol/paracetamol for arthritis is pretty crazy to me. My gran has the same condition and has been given codeine, DHC, tramadol, morphine, tapentadol, and buprenorphine at various points. No oxy but I think that's due to the local NHS CCG. NICE guidelines say to script oxy to a patient who does not respond to morphine so she should have been given oxy really and would get it if she argued the case I'm sure.

That two boxes of DHC from the online pharmacy thing happened to my mate too. I am guessing you use the same site, I won't name it since I think it crosses the line into sourcing but we both know the one we mean. Bloody mad they just hand out DHC online. They also text discount codes and sometimes their system bugs out and lets you order your next script early. It is crazy it is all warnings about how it is for short-term use only and causes addiction... but they text you each month letting you know you can order again and they throw a discount code in there. And that is legal because technically under the Medicines Act, dihydrocodeine 30mg is uncontrolled, only the higher doses are controlled. See that's lax regulations for you lmao.

If they really wanted to they could script Oramorph online too but I am guessing they know they'd draw attention from the regulator if they went that far.

I am surprised you get zolpidem so easily in the UK, that's actually a pretty rare script over here. I have heard modafinil is usually hard to get too even though it is uncontrolled. Pregabalin they used to just throw at anyone before it was controlled though for sure. Same with tramadol, just a few years ago it was uncontrolled and it was everywhere because GP's just handed it out to anyone. To this day the NHS seems to prefer tramadol to other opioids but it depends on the CCG you're dealing with.

As for pharmacies yeah it's not really worth the bother trying to find a dodgy one in the UK unless you actually know someone who can vouch for you. Besides codeine linctus is legally OTC and DHC is so easy to get scripted. Wouldn't mind a dodgy doc or pharmacist hooking me up with Oramorph though!

I think if my mum complained maybe she'd be put on oral morphine before they consider oxycodone. She doesn't know about these things so she sticks to what they give her.
One of the online pharmacies I use now stocks DF118 Forte, the 40mg tablets. They cost double the normal ones so won't be asking for a prescription anytime soon.

They clearly tell you the opioids sold are for short term use only but they have no problem prescribing them continuously - as long as you respect the timescales and don't try and order too soon.

There was one where they had a sort of glitch and it let me request a prescription for all sorts of stuff. They had even diamorphine listed. Obviously that was a list of stuff they can sell with NHS or private prescriptions issued by a doctor who sees you in person, but they had this glitch where apparently they could script that with an online consultation. I tried for 5mg Oxycodone extended release and of course was told I need to see my GP for that :/.

 

[Nicomorphinist]

This makes sense. I think a lot of pharmacists got in trouble for selling to tourists so now they play it safe by only selling prescription meds to people they know as you said. For example in Spain a lot of Brits used to buy benzos and zopiclone OTC and they clamped down on that since.

They even do the same in the UK if you know the right pharmacist though. Those pharmacies with Arabic names are often run by dodgy pharmacists who will sell drugs like diazepam, tramadol, and even Oramorph without a prescription but there's been a few undercover reporters busting them for it so they're more clever now and only sell to people they know. They also usually don't sell to white people. I noticed when they send reporters in they are Asian journalists. But it does happen in the UK for certain.

Pharmacy regulation in the UK is surprisingly lax... I have had a pharmacy give me double my prescribed amount of DHC, 200 pills instead of 100, and no one ever seemed to notice. My mate got given extra Ritalin and the pharmacist just said yeah there's extra in there, just keep it. Oramorph is somehow not a controlled drug so is not subject to the same record keeping checks as oxy for example is, so easy to let a bottle go now and then and they get swiped from hospitals all the time by nurses etc.

I have heard in Greece that they sell non-controlled prescription drugs OTC to anyone even tourists, for example SSRIs and antibiotics. Not sure about Italy, but I have just heard stories of people who try enough small local pharmacies and eventually will find one willing to sell benzos. Opiates are a no-go though, too strictly controlled even codeine. I've read from people who have severe chronic pain that they are lucky if they get co-codamol.

I remember when the first news of the codeine situation in Greece back around 2000 hit and myself and a small group of others cancelled a trip there on general principle and also figuring that a briefcase full of de facto OTC dihydrocodeine and nicocodeine and other things would get the Athens Swat team on my arse even if I removed my beloved 100-count bottles of pure 30 mg codeine hydrochloride tablets. Those bottles were small enough to keester stash about six of them but I haven't had the range of motion to do such a thing in years nor ever the rage for sticking things up my arse to consider it. Several other people also did boycotts of varying lengths after I did an epic kvetch about the whole thing and other related issues pushing 135 minutes long for an audience that grew to about 35 or so.

Being a potentiator man and a Cytochrome P450 II-D-6 Comprehensive Metaboliser, but not a Rapid one, and massive antihistamine fancier, I was able to use codeine for pain quite a bit for a long time, and I was the medic and purchasing man for our tour group, which was going to grow in Greece and stay for weeks. Instead, we invited another 20 or so and had a codeine and DHC orgy and played Turkish and Macedonian music and political speeches on the stereo instead. Bulgarian Doriden made the codeine, DHC, nicocodeine, and similar drugs work a lot better (Dors & Fours, Loads)

 

[Wilson Wilson]

I think if my mum complained maybe she'd be put on oral morphine before they consider oxycodone. She doesn't know about these things so she sticks to what they give her.
One of the online pharmacies I use now stocks DF118 Forte, the 40mg tablets. They cost double the normal ones so won't be asking for a prescription anytime soon.

They clearly tell you the opioids sold are for short term use only but they have no problem prescribing them continuously - as long as you respect the timescales and don't try and order too soon.

There was one where they had a sort of glitch and it let me request a prescription for all sorts of stuff. They had even diamorphine listed. Obviously that was a list of stuff they can sell with NHS or private prescriptions issued by a doctor who sees you in person, but they had this glitch where apparently they could script that with an online consultation. I tried for 5mg Oxycodone extended release and of course was told I need to see my GP for that :/.

Yeah the usual NICE guideline backed approach is: tramadol/codeine/DHC > Oramorph/Zomorph/Severdol > Longtec/Shortec > buprenorphine or tapentadol > diamorphine (hospital settings only, usually reversed for palliative care).

A lot of that is down to the local CCG which tend to have their own local guidelines and often the prescribing doctor and especially with the weaker opiates the patient can have a say too. For example if any doc tried to put me on tramadol I would ask to be put on something else and refuse to take it point blank because of the side effects I've had in the past. If they asked me what I prefer I'd try for Oramorph otherwise go for good old DHC if it's no dice. I've done this in the past and got given 240mg DHC daily + 10mg morphine tablets for breakthrough pain, later upgraded to Oramorph liquid.

I've seen the DF118 40mg on that pharmacy, but yeah the price is crazy for 10mg extra especially when it's time release. People will likely pay just for the brand name but that pharmacy is overpriced anyway. The cost of their regular DHC 30mg is almost double the main competitor. Although their codeine prices are fine and they let you order up to 200 tablets a month which is nice (probably why they think they can get away with charging a premium on DHC).

That's mad a pharmacy listed oxy and shit by mistake! Never would any doctor actually approve such a thing online unless they literally were not paying attention and they'd be at risk of getting struck off, fined, or even arrested if they did, so seriously, mad the pharmacy made such a mistake.

But yes it's funny they say short term only blah blah blah but as you say they have absolutely no problem scripting every month as long as you don't take the piss. They even let me order twice in one month sometimes due to glitches in their website. I notice it is always "down for maintenance." My bro reckons they are high on their own supply hence fucking up so often ?

I remember when the first news of the codeine situation in Greece back around 2000 hit and myself and a small group of others cancelled a trip there on general principle and also figuring that a briefcase full of de facto OTC dihydrocodeine and nicocodeine and other things would get the Athens Swat team on my arse even if I removed my beloved 100-count bottles of pure 30 mg codeine hydrochloride tablets. Those bottles were small enough to keester stash about six of them but I haven't had the range of motion to do such a thing in years nor ever the rage for sticking things up my arse to consider it. Several other people also did boycotts of varying lengths after I did an epic kvetch about the whole thing and other related issues pushing 135 minutes long for an audience that grew to about 35 or so.

Being a potentiator man and a Cytochrome P450 II-D-6 Comprehensive Metaboliser, but not a Rapid one, and massive antihistamine fancier, I was able to use codeine for pain quite a bit for a long time, and I was the medic and purchasing man for our tour group, which was going to grow in Greece and stay for weeks. Instead, we invited another 20 or so and had a codeine and DHC orgy and played Turkish and Macedonian music and political speeches on the stereo instead. Bulgarian Doriden made the codeine, DHC, nicocodeine, and similar drugs work a lot better (Dors & Fours, Loads)

I'm jealous you got to try Doriden with your codeine and DHC mate.

Heading off to Greece soon and from what I've read if you're a tourist with a legit script you are unlikely to get in any trouble at all they won't even bother checking you at customs 99% of the time, if they do you show the prescription label you are fine. They are strict giving out prescriptions in their own country but as long as you don't try to bring in a huge supply you are good. I will bring 50-100 DHC, 50-100 codeine, 10-20 diaz, 10-20 clonaz, and 10-20 pressed bars. Nice little pick n mix of downers. Wish I could bring oxy but probably for the best that I can't. I simply cannot control myself on the strong shit.

 

[Nicomorphinist]

I suppose there is a remote chance and very labour intensive route --I suppose if one has an intolerance for other sleep medications -- or the doctor is a believer in using Dors & Fours medicinally -- in some countries Doriden could be obtained in the same fashion as in the case of a doctor who got permission from the NHS and a permit from the Home Office to prescribe either desomorphine or proheptazine to a single patient with a rare combination of conditions -- this paperwork was CCed to a manufacturer and they made a batch of medication for the one patient. So similar to the situation in Switzerland, where there was one last desomorphine patient for a number of years and it was a similar situation.

 

[Wilson Wilson]

Yeah that's the only way to get medical cannabis in the UK right now too, i.e. basically impossible.

 

[Nicomorphinist]

Yeah that's the only way to get medical cannabis in the UK right now too, i.e. basically impossible.

The irony of that is that under the US system, mainly the Controlled Substances Act 1970, the only case of people getting off-licence prescriptions for cannabis I know of was a single person down South some place who had uncontrolled vomiting and other troubles from having cancer, multiple sclerosis, and the sequelae of East African Sleeping Sickness, so in the early 1990s, the government starts growing pot on an Army base somewhere and the news story showed him first in the midst of a liquid pinwheel upchuck session of almost paranormal violence and then standing in front of the weed patch and holding a glass container with the Roman numeral I inside of a C indicating a Schedule I controlled substance. Inside the container, which was sealed with a green tax stamp, were 240 machine-rolled spliffs.

Vilan (nicomorphine) is a US CSA Schedule I Narcotic, so there were times when I wondered if my 90-day personal use quantity when going back there would lead the customs & excise people to do a Rodney King on me, but no worries.

The US CSA 1970 is different from at least that in a lot of European and Near East and many Commonwealth countries in that the basic concept is a closed system in which every Goddamn milligramme of the all the drugs have to be accounted for starting with manufacturing quotas, and there is no room in it and the 1956 general prescription law and the 1938 law giving the FDA their mandate (which they overstep big time all the time) for things such as off-licence prescribing, making a batch of medicine for a single patient, or chemists having the discretion to dispense things like codeine, diazepam, pentobarbitone, tramadol, dexamethasone, many antihistamines and all the rest. The one exception are/were dilute opium, codeine, dihydrocodeine, ethylmorphine, and diphenoxylate medicines in Schedule V, which left it to the states although the DEA does require a dispensary log to be signed and retained for two years in ledger in which pages cannot be removed.

Once I knew someone who bought codeine cough syrup in one of the 12 states where it could be had OTC at the time, and that night the managing chemist calls the cops, who investigate under the guise of a welfare check and were thoroughly disgusted by the time they were done and impressed that she could quote the state and Federal laws chapter and verse. I had to talk her and her cousins out of burning the place to the ground. HIPAA was in force then, so the called the national hot line and the chemist did get at least one visit from a bureaucrat of some type.

 

[Akane]

Funny enough I put in an order for a new prescription of DHC this week and that pharmacy did the same thing and sent me two boxes so got one for free. Again. same exact barcode on both but this time they came one day after the other. I really don't understand how they mess up something like that.

Guess, I have to use them more often!

 

[Wilson Wilson]

Funny enough I put in an order for a new prescription of DHC this week and that pharmacy did the same thing and sent me two boxes so got one for free. Again. same exact barcode on both but this time they came one day after the other. I really don't understand how they mess up something like that.

Guess, I have to use them more often!

They've now become the official sponsor of their local football team too, their logo will be on all the t-shirts, about to get their whole town hooked on DHC. I guess being a legal drug dealer pays well ?

 

[Antiprosynthesis]

Over here lormetazepam is not rare at all...