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Are there any psychedelics with a "dark" feeling like DXM?

You can find darkness in any psychedelic depending on circumstance, but as far as dissociatives, ketamine & pcp are the benchmark. There isn't as much of a risk of serotonin syndrome but more importantly, they actually do the job right.
 
So, can someone explain how the darkness of PCP and Ketamine are different from that of DXM? Or is it the same, except stronger in K and PCP? If I do PCP once, mid-dose, will this cause any significant damage? Or does damage only apply to those addicted and those who use frequently? I know that K is the safest out of the three and if DXM can be used without taking damage(If used right) then K is my most definite decision. I just don't know how to go about getting it.
 
I'm sober but in my days dxm seemed childish as meth crack and bath salts did. We did alcoholic pot shrooms lsd and high quality coke. Eventually stopped all but the drinking then used benzodiazepines to get off the drinking but got hooked on both. I'm now clean for almost a year with an occasional kratom or pot use.
I don't consider pot or kratom bad they're natural.
 
I've found DPT to have a unique darkness of it's own, but not in the way a dissociative would be. I've personally never felt DXM to be dark but ketamine has the potential to be hollow, cold, and dark IME and I would imagine it would be more similar to DXM's nature than any serotonergic psychedelic. Some typical psychedelics that I've found to have a dark character are high doses of mushrooms, 4-ho-mipt, and large doses of 4-aco-dmt. It's important to point out that whate one person finds dark the other may find it very vibrant and joyful.
 
Yup. I would classify lsd as pretty dark, at most 10% of the time. Most of the time it's wondrous and trippy, and sometimes it's me-time; it makes you face yourself and who you are, and I think it's here that growth can occur if one is willing to objectively look at themselves and grow stronger from it. But this only lasts by taking meaningful steps to improvement after the trip. I wouldn't classify this as dark or a bad trip, though others might think so. Some people do take lsd exclusively for this effect, and they end up having a life changing experience for the better.

It's all up to the person though. Anyone that isn't up for this, eg. like being able to admit their own mistakes, is mostly going to have a real bad time. Lsd will show it to you and be relentless with it.

So besides that, I've had a 'dark' experience with mushies before too. I stepped away from the group to kind of chill and lay down, so after a while I started to get some ominous vibes. I kept looking at the stairs and thinking someone, or something, was walking down it but no one was there. It seemed like an apparition or ghost, however I was on shrooms so I convinced myself that was why. It didn't bother me much, though it was enough to make me not want to be in that room anymore.

Edit. Some fixes. :)
 
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MXE and ketamine are both N-methyl-D-aspartate antagonists. So is DXM. These dissociatives are all dark IMO.

But I don't think LSD is dark. It's light/truth if anything.
 
DPT is the darkest psychedelic I've ever tried.

High dose mushrooms and DMT can get pretty fucking intense too.

I've never tried 5-meo-DMT, but I hear that one's pretty intense as well.

As far as dissociatives go, DXM is certainly one of the darker ones. Same with 2-meo-diphenidne. Salvia can also be quite dark.

Also, I dunno if deliriants count, but pretty much all of them are guaranteed to cause negative experiences.
 
DPT is Crazy. I did far too much with my buddy and don't remember half the experience because it was so out of body and smack in your face. I was in a ride I had absolutely no control over. Very intense trip, but beautiful nonetheless.

I feel dissociatives in general can be a bit barker then the other classic psychedelics but have also found that any chemical has the potential to be dark if given the correct set and setting. I enjoy dark trips just as much as light ones for different reasons.
 
I've never used DXM or any disassociative drugs; but if you love DXM you will probably enjoy other disassocative drugs like PCP, MXE, K, etc.

Some people have had "dark" experiences while on LSD and mushrooms.

I also have met people who had "dark" experiences while on Ayahuasca; but they did it while in a religious ceremony in countries where it's legal to do this.
 
When OP asks about psychedelics, I assume he means 5HT2a psychedelics? Anyway, to me 2C-E is hands Down the "darkest" psychedelic I`ve ever tried.
 
I see that this thread is a year old and the OP has been gone for four months anyway, but it just bugs me that in the thread's original run only a single post actually answered the question the OP asked, which was about psychedelics and not dissociatives (and his posts show that he is well aware of the difference).

For me, DXM does feel sort of like what I would call "dark", but I feel it's really more just like neutral and strange, like I have seem some alien things on it but I've never encountered demon entities or anything like that. I have encountered them on 4-AcO-DET, and that along with 4-HO-DET and 4-HO-MET just give me a lot of skeletal imagery in general. 4-HO-DiPT and LSD also share a quality I get with them that makes me feel sort of demented or crazy in a way that is somewhat dark, but the hallucinations and everything really aren't. Lastly, DiPT gives me a very unique form of dark visuals with tentacles and vortices and the like, but the emotional vibe really didn't feel dark of crazy to me at all.
 
^--Um, read the title again. The OP specifically mentions DXM, a dissociative, in it.
 
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^--Um, read the title again. The OP specifically mentions DXM, a dissociative, in it.
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Yes, but he was not asking about DXM. In the original post he asks if "any psychedelics" can compare to DXM, not "any other psychedelics". After no one really gave psychedelic answers he then in later posts went on to lament the fact that dissociatives seem to be the only dark drugs, before seemingly accepting that they're his favorite drugs in the end. The thread basically becomes a discussion about dissociatives, but it seemed to me that the original question was specifically about finding psychedelics that could compare.
 
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