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Are there any drugs that can be used as substitute for speed?

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SpeedJunkie

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I am looking for drugs that give similar effects to amphetamine,
but with less side-effects. Some years ago I took 15 mg 2-CB, which
gave me exactly what I wanted. It was energetic and euphoric , but not that much
psychedelic. Unfortunally 2-CB is now illegal and very hard to get on the black
market.
Are there any other phenetaylamines that are still legal that I can use as
substitute for speed? It can't be any weak or inefficient stuff like ephedrine
and can't be anything with too much side effects. I have found two interesting
drugs that I can buy online. They are 2,5-Dimethoxy-4-Iodophenethylamine
and TMA-2 (2,4,5-trimethoxyamphetamine), which is derived from Calamus root.
Has anyone tried them?
The drug that I'm looking for should be a good party drug, that makes you wanna dance.
It can't be anything expensive like cocaine.
 
1/2 blotter of acid gives a nice speedy bodyrush, specially enhanced musical appreciation/understanding while not getting too psychedelic...REALLY CHEAP if u can get it...
a medium (second plateau) Dose of DXM is Really interesting and controllable while clubbing CHEAP AND LEGAL
You can look in your country for local Somalian community, they usually sell granulated KHAT leefes
 
something along the lines of this:
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=5846
But I bet in Sweden you don't have to buy them ugly bottles of Robotussin and drink all that Swag to get the active ingredient going.. I think , just like in holland, you can buy coughsuppresant capsules (containing only the DXMBromide) in supermarkets and drugstores...
This way you avoid the ugly and dangerous (when taken in larger amounts) ingredients of some other cough medicines...
 
The drug that I'm looking for should be a good party drug, that makes you wanna dance.
It can't be anything expensive like cocaine.
Maybe a really low dose of AMT? You could also check out some of the piperazines, but I haven't heard too many good things about them.
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Isn't AMT a tryptamine? I like to trip on foxy, but not at parties. I don't get any energy from it or get social. I need some upper or some psychedelic phenetylamine.
Originally posted by Crimson Cloud:

Maybe a really low dose of AMT? You could also check out some of the piperazines, but I haven't heard too many good things about them.
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I supose that ritalin could be used as a substitute for speed, if you can get your hands on some....
 
Originally posted by toxiku:
I supose that ritalin could be used as a substitute for speed, if you can get your hands on some....
ritalin is an the amphetamine. I could be wrong, but I'm assuming what the speed junkie is looking for alternatives to amphetamines.
ephedra, coffee or tea, (caffeine) is probably the best you'll do OTC. Cocaine always seems to perk me right up, but it's cheap and easily avail. in my area. i haven't tried any of the research chemicals you referenced.
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Yup, ritalin being an amph/stimulnt, would keep him/her in the same tracks. I really enjoy the "natural" go from the 10mg tblt. For an "old guy", is does good. Please and thanx, Bogie
 
Some years ago I took 15 mg 2-CB, which
gave me exactly what I wanted. It was energetic and euphoric , but not that much psychedelic. Unfortunally 2-CB is now illegal and very hard to get on the black market. Are there any other phenetaylamines that are still legal that I can use as substitute for speed?
While not entirely legal, 2ci might be a good option as many report it's similarities to 2cb.
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2ci is a very speedy phenethylamine, but i'm not so sure i would call it a substitute for speed. however, at low doses the psychedelic effects aren't that pronounced, and perhaps you would enjoy the speedy effects. i'm talking about doses under 12mg. go much above that a you are certain to trip pretty good.
 
Originally posted by SpeedJunkie:
Isn't AMT a tryptamine? I like to trip on foxy, but not at parties. I don't get any energy from it or get social. I need some upper or some psychedelic phenetylamine.
Yeah it's a tryptamine, but at low doses it feels more like a stimulant than a psychedelic imo. I'm talking about doses less than 20mg. But if it's a phen your after, like someone else said, maybe you should look into 2-ci, since you said that you have access to it.
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Get a two-liter bottle of Mr. Green. It's a soda made by the people at SOBE, however it's suprising cheap, possibly because it tastes like crap. It's got a shitload of ginseng in it, a few glasses and you'll be awake and peppy as all hell.
I think I got it at Albertson's but they sell it at lots of grocery stores, i think you might be able to order it off the internet.
 
ephedrine + pepsi blue. I do it all the time it's fun, tho you gotta know your body and how much to take, too little just wakes you up a bit if anything and too much will make you extremely jittery and somewhat paranoid(tho that may be my lack of weed doing that)
 
Amphetamine is a very strong and euphoric drug. You can't replace it with mild drugs like ginseng or caffeine. Drugs like BZP and ephedrine are also not a substitute, since they don't give any kick and not much euphoria. I don't take speed to stay awake. I take it for the pleasure.
Originally posted by XxPyrroGyrrlxX:
ephedrine + pepsi blue. I do it all the time it's fun, tho you gotta know your body and how much to take, too little just wakes you up a bit if anything and too much will make you extremely jittery and somewhat paranoid(tho that may be my lack of weed doing that)
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