• S E X
    L O V E +
    R E L A T I O N S H I P S


    ❤️ Welcome Guest! ❤️


    Posting Guidelines Bluelight Rules
  • SLR Moderators: Senior Staff

Are psychedelics worth it?

I agree with both sides unfortunately. At this point I'm pretty sure there's no hope in saving the relationship though.

She grew up having to provide everything for herself, working all through high school to support not only her, but her two younger brothers also. Thus, she's extremely responsible and work-driven. On the other hand, I grew up in a middle-upper class family with everything I could ever want/need and more provided for me. I've only worked 4 jobs in my life, made under 2k total myself, and have had everything else bought for me by my dad. As such, I have little motivation to work, am not very responsible when it comes to getting my shit done, etc etc. You get the picture.

In addition, while she is always thinking of what needs to be done and fretting about completing it. I'm always carefree and putting things off until the last minute, always ready to have fun instead of do something that doesn't have to be done absolutely right now, and sometimes even then. She's very serious about things and never sees more than what is there, never thinks about the big picture or what it all means. I'm the opposite, caring more about the esoteric and what's behind it all, not worrying too much about worldly issues. She calls me careless.

But I think what really pushed it over the edge was the fact that her best friend's little brother OD'd and died on NBOMe this April. We're from a small community, and it shook the entire community and set off a massive RC, psychedelic, and drug hate-fest.

She mentioned how I don't seem to care about her having such a hard loss, and using drugs like that anyways. How I was selfish to drive on it, endangering myself, and thus her and other's emotions and feeling. How I was selfish to hide it from her and sell it to her roommate's friends, thus letting them know, and having her left out feeling "like a dumbass." How I wasn't able to see her the night I got there because I was coming down from tripping, and thus put drugs in front of her. You get the picture.

Me, in my liberal drug perspective and generally aloof attitude didn't even think about all that being the way it is when doing it. Stupid, right?

In addition, it's only been four months since we started dating. I love her, even through how different we are. But she's at college in a sorority, and I'm at home working because I got suspended for a year. I don't know what to think, or do. Because I love her and want to be with her, but at the same time want to trip. But even bigger than that, because I realized I would give it up for her, is it even fair to her if we did keep dating? We wouldn't be able to see each other much at all, being 4.5 hours away. But she has an ocean of potentially better matches for her, while I'm in a 10k pop. town with no girls here to date, the ones that are here you wouldn't want to. Is that even fair? Or does love trump that?

My best friend here tells me that it's probably best for me to get over it and not try and get her back, seeing as I wasn't as emotionally/spiritually grounded as I should have been when we started dating, and got even worse at finding that inner peace always having her love and affection to bring me happiness. Almost like a drug, if you will. But I just don't want it to end, I can't stop thinking about us cuddling, her laughing and giggling, etc. I think it's just my ego that doesn't want it to end, to lose the girlfriend it was so proud it finally had after all these years. But I do love her. Help?

I'm sorry I'm turning this into a relationship thread, if need be mods can move it.
 
what do you mean, by what the fuck?

I mean I disagree with your point, and I also think you came across as quite judgemental

Because it's obvious this guy is overdoing it, driving while on acid...

Really ? Guy makes a silly mistake from that you can tell that his use is out of control

because he obviously loves this women.
Really ? Its his 1st girlfriend....with all due respect to OP but having one girlfriend means he doesnt know what love is..

I'm saying this guy in particular should stop taking drugs, to save his relationship.

Why ? Why is it down to him to change ? Why can't she read up on psychs, listen to OP and chill the fuck out ?

If someone is trying to stop you from enjoying the life you live and prevent you from doing what makes you happy then its time to move one, find someone more open minded and fun to be with.

Fact
 
I guess my biggest issue is that the town I'm stuck in for the next 4 months has next to no girls I'd want to be involved with at all. No-one that's going anywhere in life or intelligent at all stays here, everyone my age is gone. That's what makes it so hard I guess, seeing that I don't have much of an opportunity to find someone else for a while.

Although I did hear of a girl my age that is supposedly hot and has been going to a local community organization which you wouldn't go to if you're a fuck up. So there's one chance, but still.

I'm lost guys, I've never had to deal with anything like this before.
 
Why do you need to be in a relationship?
Give yourself that 4 months to work on you, just because you dropped out of this relationship doesn't mean you have to go barreling in to another one.
It can be tough feeling alone in a town, trust me on that, but if there's nothing you can do to change it then focus on yourself.
You don't need to be in a relationship or chasing a girl 24/7 to be happy
 
No I definitely realize that, man. Like I said, this is my first relationship since 8th grade. So I definitely know I can live without an emotional attachment to a girl in my life. It's just that know that I've found out what a relationship is all about; the love, affection, feeling like you have a partner through it all, etc. I just don't want to lose that. Which I guess again, is ego. I've integrated her into my "self".

It's just, things look so hopeless without a love. For entertainment in my town, there's only a bowling alley. On top of that, I have only one friend here, who luckily I'm very close to. So the only things I can really do are work, hangout with my friend when he isn't in HS, longboard, read, play video games (which I think of a waste of time now), and fuck around on the internet.

It just looks so bleak and boring.
 
I don't think anyone has a right tot judge you on your drug use OP. Sure you were massively irresponsible, but that doesn't mean your drug use is out of control. Possibly, you haven't found the right balance yet, but finding that is hard especially when you're bored. Shit I know that feeling very well.

Still, the breakup with your girlfriend was entirely because of your behaviour. She might be a bit controlling which doesn't help, and really, if you can't be yourself then it just isn't a good relationship. But, as stated before, you should just have been honest and maybe this wouldn't have happened.

Anyway, seeing as this was your first real relationship, it's just something to take with you for your next relationship. The world might seem bleak now, and agreed nothing can beat a lover's touch and affection, but living in a small village (same here, though I'm Dutch so every city is nearby in American terms) means there's so many people to meet. You'll find someone else, which will only be better because of what you've learned now.

P.s Woah, feels like I'm cheering someone up in Sex, Love & Relationships
 
Your girlfriend is right for being annoyed, just put yourself in her shoes.
Man up. stop taking drugs to help you cope with life, and go back and get your girlfriend and promise never to touch any drug again. and stand by that promise.

Sorry if i sound harsh, but you need to see the error of your ways, the most precious thing in your life leaves you, and you just let her go? and continue taking drugs.

^ actually OP's girlfriend; who is afraid to admit that she too uses psychedelics :P
 
The world might seem bleak now, and agreed nothing can beat a lover's touch and affection, but living in a small village (same here, though I'm Dutch so every city is nearby in American terms) means there's so many people to meet. You'll find someone else, which will only be better because of what you've learned now.

I'm literally not going to find anyone here, except for the girl I posted about in that organization. Every young person worth anything leaves every year for school, or is gone for good. Our county has the highest population and percentage of population of seniors in the entire state. You drive around and you literally don't see anyone below 30 people-in-car-watching. It's ridiculous.

^ actually OP's girlfriend; who is afraid to admit that she too uses psychedelics :P

Hahahah I wish man, don't give me false hope.


EDIT: If someone could read my other 2-3 posts before this one giving more details, and give me your opinion, that would be great.
 
ok .. I didnt mean to intend to be a "troll" (but I have had a few drinks) .. but now for a genuine answer..

1) You should not have lied. Regardless of the fact that she does not approve of your drug use, you should have been honest. Believe me, I have been with number (ok only a handful) of girls who do not approve of my indulgence in substances they dont approve of [though for some fucked up reason they are dtd {down to drink} but you need to be truthful to her, yet more importantly yourself).

2) Chemical use is not determinant to relationships if your truthful in the first place because there would be no relationship with people who are not accepting of your "chemical use" if you are honest about your use of chemicals. Because I am so keen on the use of said chemicals (though the amount per year has declined from 12+/year to < 6), I would not give them up for someone who does not understand this. That does not mean they have to partake (in amount nor frequency), rather what I mean is that they have to understand that that is a part of me. They must see that psychedelics are a part of what I am and what I will be (this is not certain, but it is likely)

3) Psychedelics are not the only thing that will make you "feel rejuvenated and ready for life", atleast not IMO, though you may vary. Exercise, mediation and a healthy diet are truly wonderful things. Please try them if you are in doubt

4) There is nothing wrong with being carefree but procrastinating (not saying you are but by the sounds of your second post it may seem that you too [as well as myself] may be prone to is on occasion) is not a very useful trait.

5) I am sorry for the loss of your community but 4 sub tryptamines are not on the same level as the Nbome series (though I have not tried this class [nbome] it is obvious that the safety profiles are not nearly the same). However, someone of a lesser knowledge of the subject would not realize this and most likely would not care even if evidence is shown to the contrary. Education is key in our society and some people (both for and against drug use) simply dont give a sh!t, quite unfortunately.

6) You were indeed "selfish" (I would suggest careless or perhaps irresponsible) to drive on "it" (especially not knowing the effects of a new substance and taking it for drive on). I am not condoning this (driving while high; on psychs {or any substance}) but we all make mistakes, live and let learn :) .

7) If I were you I would not be selling (or even giving) anything to anyone. This could potentially complicate things far beyond what you could have ever imagined. Trust me ..... :(

8) If you are meant to be together no distance should keep you apart. I have not experienced this first hand.. It is just some cliche or something (I have likely heard in a song or something).

9) There is nothing wrong with remembering the good times of a relationship, but emotions can blind us and you must also learn from the "bad". I (nor anyone else) can tell you what your next move is, we can only advise. Personally I have gone back to the wrong girl for the wrong reasons once too many times. My advice? Do what feels right (though in the end this may not be the long term solution). There is nothing wrong with making mistakes so long as you learn from them

10) There is nothing wrong with being single and not wanting to be. My only advise is not to rush a relationship and/or settle. If need be take some time for yourself (there is nothing wrong with it); though admittedly this may be difficult

11) I too come from a small town with limited options. Back to not settling..... Its not worth it.. (trust me)... If need be take the time to focus on yourself; meditate, exercise, eat right, trip only when the time is right (though not necessarily in that order). Take care of yourself and eventually all else will "just be" (I have not listened to this song in a dogs age but my "girlish" sentiment [obviously only imo] reminds me of "Just be" by Tiesto {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPKQKX5JWqY}). There is nothing wrong with being "lost" if you believe in yourself and your decisions.

(Apologies for the style of my response.. It just seemed to answer the questions you posed in numerical-ish order). Be well.

Tired
 
What is holding you there, OP? It doesn't seem like much from the looks of your posts, so why stay? You don't even have to move out or anything, but you could save up a bunch of money and start traveling or something. The world is wide open! That's what I meant with so many people to meet, because you've only seen a few faces comparatively
 
OP I can not tell you what is the right choice for you of keeping your girl or keeping your drugs but I do know this: You should not have to choose. There are other fish in the sea you know.

I've had my fair share of relationships ruined by drugs, I try to not set myself up for them anymore. I make it crystal clear these days Toz comes with the whole package, drug addictions and whatnot included. You either take it or leave it...
...maybe that's why I'm still single lol.
 
I stopped reading when you said you drove on 15 mg 4-ho-met. One of the fastest kick in and amazing visuals
 
Moved

PD >> SLR (a first for me :D )

when i read this thread in PD the other day i actually thought why is this not in SLR lol.

OP you drove on heavily perception distorting drugs, lied repeatedly and the relationship is relatively new and fresh. unwise. move on to the next and try not to shit on your own doorstep in future.
 
Top