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Are psychedelics for me?

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I've had an interest in psychedelics since 7th grade (I'm 18 now). For a few years now I've been around them fairly often, having lots of friends who indulge in acid, boomers, 2c-e, salvia, blagh blagh, but have never partaken myself out of fear. I've smoked weed (heavily sometimes, occasionally at other times), done a low dose of MDMA, and had a 2nd plateau dex experience before.

But I've always been afraid of the harder shit due to my dad being bipolar and my mom being a bit off too (she once legitimately thought she was possessed, ran off when I was in 3rd grade to join some New Age pseudo-Buddhist commune, other batshit stuff), afraid that tripping would trigger some deep mental shit and turn me into a nutjob.

I'm a pretty stable individual. Aside from minor self-esteem issues, I don't have any obvious mental problems. Nobody else in my family aside from my parents has a history of mental problems.

Should I just stay away from the stuff (I am thinking either trying shrooms or research chems because lucy seems like too much of a mindfuck for me to be comfortable with)? I am leaning towards "yes", but tripping is just oh-so-appealing to me. The thought of the abstract thought patterns and music-related throes of ecstasy I fall into just on weed multiplied by 100 sounds like an interesting experience.
 
i'd say if you really want to try something, take one hit of acid and see how it is.
i personally would stay away from shrooms for now because shrooms tend to work more off your emotions and its a little easier to fall into a bad trip. for me at least, acid seems to be very clean and euphoric (especially at low doses) so you shouldnt worry too much about going into a bad trip or anything.

but i would be careful, cause it could always trigger some kind of mental illness even though you dont seem to have any mental illnesses now.
 
Eat a hit of L. Be in a chill, safe environment where you are with a couple trusted friends feeling comfortable. Blast your tunes and let it happen. Dont worry about a bad trip and mental illness and all this extra crap people seem to be obsessed with nowadays. Yes it could happen, but thats like saying everyone that drinks should watch out cause you might go into a rage forever, when really, people that are usually full of anger already tend to let it out while drinking. And yes, even the calm ones get a little crazier on alcohol but it doesnt mean its a hidden mental illness coming out.

Same with psychs, yes, if you have a "hidden" mental illness, it can be more prevelant during and after having tripped. But for the most part, everyones just gonna act a little whacky and come back with some very interesting thoughts from the other side. It's important to know, you're not uncovering some hidden mental illness or something ridiculous.

They're psychedelics, some parts will be amazing, some parts will be difficult, itll get dark, itll get light. Its kinda supposed to be "insane." Overall, you're gonna do a whole lot of learning.

Do it. Happy Trippings :)
 
your only problem is your worrying about it too much, learn to relax and think positive then your more likely to have a good time on it.
 
Out of the mentioned possibilities I actually think LSD is a better idea then shrooms, it might last longer but the trip is mentally more clear then on mushrooms, they're possibly one of the most confusing psychedelics in existance, while LSD is relatively easy on the mind. Some RC's might be easier on the mind but I think with LSD it might be comfortable to know the substance you are taking is not poisonous in any way and has been researched thourougly for 60-70 years, something that unfortunately has not happened with most RC's yet. I can imagen if you feel weird things and you can be súre to tell yourself 'its just the drug' that might give a much safer feeling while tripping.

From what I know (both research and noticing it in my surroundings) is that cannabis is much more likely to trigger psychosis related problems or paranoia then psychedelics are. I have a few friends with some things 'off' in their brain, for example one who has had psychosis in the past. Those friends are all fine on psychedelics and enjoy them a lot, for them it didn't trigger anything or made anything worse. Both people have problems with high dose / constant weed use but are fine smoking a little bit. It seems to them that psychedelics are actually easier on their minds. Obviously its just a few people I now mention and I do NOT think people with mental disorders should take drugs, I'm just saying some get away with it just fine.

What I think in terms of the substance being capable of triggering for example psychosis is that it cán happen if the trip is traumatic and bad, any traumatic experience can trigger a psychosis in people who naturally get them, so a really bad trip is probably capable of triggering mental problems. My 'insane' friends have had no bad trips so that might explain why they get away with it so well?

If you've been interesting for years and have read up properly and will take the psychedelic with close friends in safe enviroment in a good mindset you'll probably have a wonderful trip and your brain will most likely in that caze be just as fine after as before the experience.
 
Thank you for the detailed replies everyone, I'll take all of this into consideration. I'm leaning towards doing it, although not in the immediate future due to school coming back up and being kind of busy and stressed.
 
I would say that taking LSD for your first trip would probably not be a great idea. Sometimes the intensity of acid can be too much to handle, especially for people that are not completely sure that psychadelics are for them.

I would be more inclined to consider something like 2C-I or 2C-C as they are relatively easy to control and there is less of a headfuck with these chems too. They can be a good introduction to psychs.

If you enjoy the experience then you will be able to plan future experiences much easier too, based upon your favourite and least favourite parts of the trip.
 
Agree with mugabe...2c-c is a great first time trip. It has a really pleasant body glow, very little in the way of mindfuck, nice easy visuals, kinda sedate almost.
 
I actually think mid-dose ketamine can be a wonderful intro to Psychedelics. While technically a dissociative its gentle feeling of being carried away and interesting closed eye visuals can be a gentle awakening to a new world. However be careful, as dosing to high and K-holeing your first time would be a bit intense
 
ketamine- very relaxing not too harsh. acid- not too harsh, very euphoric. start with a low dose. shrooms-prone to cause anxiety but doable. salvia- short lasting ... but super intense. DMT- same thing

those are the ones i'd suggest. i'd say acid, cuz its easier to find that K in general and it isnt too intense and not too prone to bad shit
 
I agree that a more benign 2C, such as 2C-I would be a good intorduction to psychedelics.

Unfortnately 2C-I doesn't have too much in the department of philosophical or mental psychedelia IME, but it will give you an idea of what to expect from more intense psychedelic experiences ala LSD or 2C-T-7.

I also agree that LSD is easier to control than shrooms, although both are very rewarding. 4-AcO-DMT is very similar to shrooms, but much smoother than shrooms IME

I'd suggest 16 mg 2C-I if you're looking for a more stimulating visual trip with little mental effects. It sounds like you want some mental effects though, so this might not be ideal, but it is a very benign introduction.

I'd suggest 16 mg 4-AcO-DMT if you're looking for a more sedating trip with noticeable, but very benign mental effects.

If you don't have access to research chemicals trying a smaller dose of LSD would be a great candidate too. Only problem with LSD is it's hard to know how strong your hits are and I find too low of a dose just to be awkward. Usually 1 hit is a weak trip, but you can fit 10 trips onto 1 botter! (As in ten 100 mcg trips, or 1 mg)

Everyone else has been fairly accurate. Usually only bad trips trigger mental illness, but it can happen to anyone with latent mental health issues. A positive attitude and good set and setting can go a long way to ensure you have an amazing experience. Don't think too much about it, but definitely spend time preparing, with good tunes, visually interesting movies, well trusted friends/loved ones and research into the psychedelic you choose to take. It sounds like you should be careful due to your family history, but you can be safe even though psychedelics can be unpredictable.


Of course these are all my opinion based on my experience. Your mileage may vary.
 
I once had an acid tab well over 1000µg, you could splice the trip with a razor into 16 peices and each peice was the same effect as taking 1. value for money if you ask me but was a little overwhelming for a schoolnight =D
 
do half doses first and work ur way up
like half an 8th of shrooms, better to get a feel of the body high so ur not like wtf is happening
 
Personally I'd definitely say to avoid mushrooms your first time if "mindfuck" is an issue for you. That's probably the most prominent effect of mushrooms and 4-substituted tryptamines in general.

While I have never taken LSD myself, many of my friends who trip have, and almost all of them agree that there is less mindfuck on LSD, the mind works in a different way, but it is not as confusing as with mushrooms, and in fact many of those same friends are able to have perfectly normal conversations while tripping - while with mushrooms they find it hard to speak to anyone who isn't tripping with them.

2C-E might be good for what you want. Music on 2C-E is utterly amazing, there is very little mindfuck, the ego remains intact until higher doses so it means unexpected ego loss is unlikely. I find no real difficulty hiding the fact that I'm tripping even on higher doses, and while some say there is an uncomfortable body load or nausea, I have yet to experience either really - some mild nausea yes, but literally just 15 seconds of feeling a bit queasy, then feeling great again. This could be due to me taking 2C-E nasally, so bear that in mind.

However, I don't think mindfuck is something you should be worried about. DXM is a dissociative, and dissociatives are just as capable of bringing out existing mental disorders as psychedelics are, you shouldn't really be all that worried. The fact is, believe it or not, most people have some kind of family history of mental disorders, and most people do not suffer any long term negative effects from psychedelics, even the idea that psychedelics and dissociatives trigger the onset of symptoms is widely debated, as one problem is that dissociatives and psychedelics mimic various mental disorders so well themselves - that if someone is using them a lot, it is very likely they will appear to have some kind of mental disorder - while if they cease use, it may turn out that this was only due to their over-regular use.

I think if you don't overdo it you shouldn't really be worried. Start with very low doses, and if you find no problems in the couple of weeks after your first attempt, up your dose a little, repeat.

Psychedelics are a wonderful thing and I'm sure you'll be able to enjoy them just like the rest of us. :)

Edit: Also, someone suggested Ketamine. Ketamine is not a psychedelic, it is a dissociative similar to DXM.
 
takimarn said:
Dont worry about a bad trip and mental illness and all this extra crap people seem to be obsessed with nowadays. Yes it could happen, but thats like saying everyone that drinks should watch out cause you might go into a rage forever, when really, people that are usually full of anger already tend to let it out while drinking. And yes, even the calm ones get a little crazier on alcohol but it doesnt mean its a hidden mental illness coming out.
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i only said this because i just read an article about this schizo who lived in my neighborhood and how he became how he is now (well, was, he died and thats why it was in the paper) but they had his whole life story... apparently he had a horribly rough childhood (witnessed the death of his high school sweetheart when he was like 18), someone slipped acid into his drink one day in college and it triggered him to be schizophrenic. before this happened he was an art student at a pretty prestigious school, very talented... and for about 40 years after he went crazy he's just been walking around town all the time just completely nuts. obviously it doesnt happen to everyone, but people who are predisposed to mental illness should just be careful... better safe than sorry...
 
My mother is hardcore bi-polar/manic depressive and heavily medicated as such.
My father is fairly normal but alcoholic.

For the 4 years up to my first acid trip, I was depressed. Not like just a little unhappy with my life, but waking up cursing that i didn't die in my sleep kind of depressed.

Pot made things tolerable until the point where i dropped acid for the first time.

Radical change in the way i view myself, my life, others, the world around me, and my place in all of it.

For the first time in 4 years i experienced happiness, but that really doesn't do the experience justice. I wasn't just happy, or even euphoric, it was like taking the happiest i had ever felt and multiplying it by 100. If you were to give me everything i want right now, it wouldn't even be close. It went beyond all sanity and reason, but it was happiness in its purest sense....

The next day i stepped outside to a beautiful spring day and my first thought was "life is wonderful" and since then i have not been depressed at all.

It took me a couple weeks to fully sort out all that i had been through that night but that trip changed my life for the better, and that was more than 2 years ago.

8 hours of tripping on acid did 100 times more for me than a year of therapy....

In retrospect, it probably saved my life.....

So if you feel that you are pretty mentally sound, i say give it a go if you want to. You may like it or it might not be your cup of tea, or it might radically change your mindset into something far more positive.

If you start to think you have gone crazy mid trip, just try and relax and tell yourself that its just a drug making you feel this way and sanity, whatever it was will come back to you when the drug runs its course.

Buy the ticket, take the ride.
 
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