Are phycidelics relaxing?

[Ganjcat]

I am thinking about using psychedelics to replace opiates or at least help me transition, I've heard good things about controlling pain but what about being able to relax and generally functionality?

 

[Xorkoth]

I don't think psychedelics are generally known for controlling pain although I've read of people experiencing unexpected effects like that. Personally I have never found them to control pain.

But anyway that wasn't really your question... psychedelics are generally not relaxing. I have felt very relaxed during trips, but it's not a given at all. Psychedelics basically make your body feel really strange (this can be bad or good), and they amplify the emotions you're feeling, and make your thoughts a lot more intense. This can produce good and bad experiences. They're not like opiates where whenever you take them, you feel a certain way. If you're actually feeling withdrawal, psychedelics are not a good idea because you'll feel the withdrawal more intensely and it's a lot easier to panic or feel anxiety, if you're feeling those things already. psychedelics make everyday tasks seem brand new, so at least when you first start tripping, you can't really function normally at all. You might spend 10 minutes staring at a leaf or something because of how beautiful it is, or find yourself completely unable to figure out how to interact with other people socially, or what facial expression you're supposed to have. Psychedelics are about the last drugs you want to take if you hope to be able to function normally.

Psychedelics are talked about as useful against addiction because of a single, powerful trip sometimes really helping people to change their perspective and help you to not feel the need to take opiates anymore. They don't help with withdrawal, and aren't something to take daily, or even 2 days in a row. Psychedelics should only be taken once per week at most, and even that rate is too much for more than a few weeks. Every 2 weeks is necessary just to reset the tolerance from one time.

Also, psychedelics have the potential to cause traumatic experiences, especially if you're unable to deal with things the trip may bring up. Sometimes people end up with lasting anxiety or even feel like they've gone crazy or something. It's the same reason why people who go to war can end up with PTSD and it really makes their lives suffer even though it's just in their head. Very traumatic experiences can cause this to happen to some people. I'm not saying it would happen to you, but being in opiate withdrawal is going to make it more likely.

The best and worst drug experiences of my life have been on psychedelics. Well, I wouldn't say the worst, but the most unpleasant/frightening experiences have been on psychedelics for sure.

 

[Cream Gravy?]

I don't believe it would achieve what you're looking for in the slightest. In fact, I use opioids to achieve those feelings in spite of psychedelics i.e. acid makes me uncomfortable, so I take an opioid to mellow out and come down a notch.

I am unsure where this recent notion of psychs helping with pain problems comes from; for me, they just show me where my pain is, and exacerbate it, both physically and emotionally. In the emotional capacity, it can help... but not with physical pains.

I think the only similarly mellow drugs like opioids are benzodiazepines and cannabis (if we're talking common drugs).

 

[SunriseChampion]

On the contrary, psychedelics sometimes induce anxiety for me. However, after the comedown I'm always the most relaxed I've ever felt in my life. Some days after mushrooms I feel like I'm melting into the couch from a feeling of supreme ease, peace, and contentment. Problem is, sometimes there's a toll to pay to get there.

Edit: I'm not sure it's actually a problem and is always well worth it. My worst near panic attack came on a relatively low dose and I was able to guide my thoughts through it. Still....relaxing during the high is not guaranteed.

If you're suffering from anxiety and whatnot from withdrawal though.....I would be extremely hesitant to use psychedelics.

 

[GodComplex]

I feel as if they were more so when I was younger, aged about 15-22. Being older I am more prone to getting anxiety on my come-ups because I actually have responsibilities and care. Not that I didn't have a job and whatnot when Inwas young. Just didnt care as much. I have a huge collection and I love my psychedelics, but I haveto do them a certain way, I like eating into it, so I have a selection of powerful shorter acting drugs and a range of other psychedelics including the classics and RC's. I just do combinations. Sometimes I start with a small bump of Ketamine for my anxiety. To me ketamine helps a lot, just easy to build a tolerance to and I really enjoy it combined with DMT analogs or LSD. I keep it under control, though. If I'm coming up hard on something I just lay down with some loud ass electronic music for .5-1 hours.

 

[Anthem Acid]

They aren't relaxing in the slightest, unless you consider never being able to find a comfortable position to sit or lay, sweating your ass off, feeling things on your body that aren't really there, and having to concentrate super hard on everything to get your vision to work properly - comfortable.

But I should say, when I was in college, one my best friends was an absolute mess. His body was falling apart. He had torn his ACL months prior and never got surgery. His shoulder was ruined from pitching. He was addicted to opiates and cigarettes and was also a mild coke head and alcoholic. He had a smokers cough that made you feel bad for him. And he'd take some mushrooms and for 6 hours, he was as healthy as he's ever been. He would say how great he felt, but that's because we would mention it. It was obvious. He normally wouldn't go a whole minute without coughing. On shrooms? He wouldn't cough for the duration. He would always say his knee stopped hurting, too.

Are a psych's an opiate replacement? Don't think so. But they could help you forget about your DrugOfChoice for a few hours.

 

[Buzz Lightbeer]

The second phase (the so called plateau) of DOC after a long day of physical activity is one of the most zen and relaxed states I can be in
But then again I've always stayed away from opiates, and I pretty much never take benzos.

 

[Crusading Spirit]

drugs affect different people in different ways, blah blah blah as cliche as it is it's true haha
psychs can most certainly be relaxing but it depends on too many things to count; your personal brain chemistry, your mood, your setting, how your life is going, your dose, etc
but even then if all factors are positive, it's a huge gamble as any trip can go down a dark path in an instant
i guess it's just something you'll never know unless you try it, but i don't see psychs as a good replacement for opiates at all in terms of pain relief and relaxation
as someone who's been mixed with opiates before, i wish you luck from the bottom of my heart

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

Not a good idea at all. Psychedelics are like an assault course for the mind. They can be extremely rewarding, but the journey is fraught with danger. They are not a replacement for opiates and are more likely to focus your mind upon the pain you're feeling. However, they do have some value in overcoming addiction if you're not too far down that road. They can make you face your demons, but the outcome of that showdown is never guaranteed.

Opiate addiction ultimitely killed my ability to enjoy psychedelics...