Are people born serial killers/psychopaths?

Not all psychopaths kill people, that is a common misconception. It is a personality type. They become killers later when they develop and obsession or feel it will help them achieve their goals.

A sociopath is someone who was brought up in a demented childhood where they never developed empathy during their youngest years. If it happens early enough it becomes them and is not reversible. Psychopaths were born that way. Many of our leaders have these traits combined with discipline and intelligence so that they seem like exemplary members of the community.
 
Not all psychopaths kill people, that is a common misconception.

Indeed, the average real-world psychopath is not a murderer. If all or most psychopaths kill people, and psychopathy has an estimated prevalence of 1% in the general population, then it follows that roughly 1% of the general population has murdered somebody. I'm incredulous, to say the least.


However, while it's obvious enough that all or even most psychopaths are not murderers, what may be less obvious is that all or even most murderers are not psychopaths.


It is a personality type. They become killers later when they develop and obsession or feel it will help them achieve their goals.


This seems like a typical quixotic and Hollywood-esque type notion of psychopathy, in my opinion. A psychopath, as you appear to suggest, could never—or almost never; or, as a whole and taken as an average, are at least closer to never than ever relative to the hoi polloi—of committing an unplanned, senseless, stupid, impetuous, and/or sloppily-executed murder that furthered no objectives nor fulfilled any obsessions.


Moreover, while I think it is erroneous to suppose that psychopaths' murders are more likely to have been motivated by cold, calculated, and considered thought than non-psychopaths' murders, there's a paucity of evidence to support the idea that psychopaths are more likely to be motivated to do anything out of cold, calculated, and considered thought.


In fact, the only evidence I've come across with at least a soupçon of solidity makes the opposite suggestion: that the quintessential psychopath is less likely to act out of premeditation and forethought than average.


The average psychopath may not be a murderer, but he—and it is virtually always a he when the person in question is psychopathic, narcissistic or sadistic. (But, to be fair, this also applies to people who are avaricious, power-hungry, eager for success, demanding, or assertive, which is why it's a cultural universal, if not nearly a mammalian universal, for a "he" to be more likely to hold a powerful or propitious social, economic, or political position than a "she", contrary to popular bullshit, crackpot "patriarchy" conspiracy theories)—also isn't a CEO, lawyer, politician, banker, academic, wunderkind with a genius-level IQ , or even employed or employable, for that matter.


A sociopath is someone who was brought up in a demented childhood where they never developed empathy during their youngest years. If it happens early enough it becomes them and is not reversible. Psychopaths were born that way. Many of our leaders have these traits combined with discipline and intelligence so that they seem like exemplary members of the community.


This too seems an odd and unfounded thing to say. If sociopathy is predominantly acquired and psychopathy is predominantly congenital, how does one distinguish the genetic psychopath who grew up in a broken and abusive home from the environmental sociopath?


When deciding whether someone is a sociopath or a psychopath, does one simply examine their childhood and count the number of productivist-pleasing and capitalistic traits they have? Or is there some less egregious and unscientific metric used?
 
^theres all sorts of ways to study variables like that.

i.e. schizophrenia in identical twins vs. siblings vs. adoption vs. house reared in
 
I'm not making this shit up plume, Jesus Christ. A psychopath who grew up in a bad home would not be as well socialized. Therefore they would act out more and have less of an ability to imitate normal behaviour as they did not have proper examples growing up. Psychopaths have no fear response and cannot fail a polygraph test, ever. They do not get nervous or react emotionally to violence or stressful situations. The have the psychopathic calmness. A sociopath will have a greatly reduced fear response but because it is a result of their childhood it will not be absolute.

What I said sounds odd because you have the layman's take on the subject. I did not say psychopathic murders are more likely to have been motivated by calculated thought. If they are genuine serial killers they typically have sexual thrill motivations. They simply go about what they do in a cold, calculated way. A psychopath who murders someone who in interfering with their goals is not likely to be an actual serial killers, whose kills are their goals.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4d4euAOq7s this gives some more information.
 
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^theres all sorts of ways to study variables like that.

i.e. schizophrenia in identical twins vs. siblings vs. adoption vs. house reared in


Of course. But not everyone has a monozygotic twin or clone to use as a comparison.


Therefore, outside of studies of twins and clones, there's no practical way to differentiate the two types in the majority of individuals. Therefore, the demarcation is meaningless, which is probably why the DSM and most orthodox psychologists and psychiatrists do not differentiate between the two.

And so the question remains valid: in a twin-less or uncloned person, how is a genetic psychopath that was raised in an abusive and neglectful home distinguished from the environmentally-caused sociopath raised in the abusive or neglectful home? When one lacks siblings, twins, or doppelgangers to compare—which is most people—do we simply take a short cut and cheat by labeling any antisocial-type person as a sociopath if they are poor, abused, neglected, and a psychopath if they are well-heeled, loved, and cared for?



What's so controversial about using just one of the words, and simply saying psychopathy or acquired psychopathy, tantamount to the current terminology used with many illnesses, diseases, conditions, and abnormalities?
 
True. I have no idea the logistics broham. Just a pipe dream if anything.

However, here's two things that pop up just with heavy intoxication couple second googling.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/wicked-deeds/201401/how-tell-sociopath-psychopath

http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/201305/confessions-sociopath

There;s probably much more out there. To clairfy what i was getting at before is that: what people have said about unsafe homes i would say leads towards psychopathy.

Sociopath from what i have read from time to time has much more bland emotions and facial expressions. I was hinting towards empathy levels.

I see where your getting at though.

Where do we differentiate between dissociating in people with things like personality disorders or abuse, and a neurotransmitter functioning. ??
 
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