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Are opiates the perfect drugs?

opiates are the best feel good drugs, but different drugs have different purposes. in my opinion the best drugs are the ones that have the most positive effect on society. psychedelics. at least as far as recreational use. for medecine opiates are probably the most useful drugs there are.
 
" imagine the best orgasm you have ever had and multiply it by a thousand and you're still nowhere near it" - mark renton- trainspotting

I love opiates. I've haven't tried much, but I remember my first hydrocodone experience. It was heavenly. Laying down was orgasmic. I love hydrocodone and oxycodone the most(even though those were the only two I've tried the most. Codeine isn't that good though. Psychostimulants comes to a close 2nd place. Although, psychedelics are also very nice, but opiates ftw.
 
Agreed... opiates are the perfect drug. Ecstasy has the greatest high and I never get a crash or negative feelings from it, but it's not practical. It's hard to find for me and has to be used only occasionally or else it's ruined. Opiates, however, are easy for me to find, have a nice and long lasting high, and (when used in moderation) are very practical. However I always seem to get a little sick the next day from H and sometimes hydrocodone.
 
To me opiates are the perfect drug for myself. I think because everyone is different and drugs are different and have thier own personalities some drugs are perfect for people but some arent.

So ya for me because i tend to have anxiety, get a low mood, am lazy, love to sleep lay around opiates are the perfect drug for myself. I feel like i am myself on opiates and am the best person i can be. I jus feel complete and like i can take anything on (after my nap lol), not worry and jus be happy.
 
Opiates are the cloest thing to perfect for my daily rutine. There easy to hide and take at work ( unlike something that you have to smoke or has an odor like alcohol) they give a nice speed rush and make just about everything a little better. They dont dehydrate you so you can be outside and not worry about passing out unlike almost everything else.
The negative is the want for more. And after a few days or weeks on just the pills I tend to want to ad something to it like coke of some sort. I always thing to myself why am I going to let this go to waist by just eating some pilss lets get some shiottteeee.
 
Im so tired of these type of threads..."heroin is like the ultimate orgásm, only better" etc etc. No, opiates are not the perfect drugs. There is no perfect drug but the best drug is the one that you find most appealing...not because there is some huge hype around the drug. Opiates are no different then other drugs, i been a dope fiend for a long ass time but thats because dope was the drug i got hooked on..not cause dope's the perfect drug. Jesus f'ing christ get reall...
 
Perfect drugs for taking the vehicle of your life and driving it into a tree at 40mph.
 
Yes, opiates=perfection. However, it's the worst withdrawl ever to experience. Wish I could take in moderation. It always starts out that way right?;)
 
i don't know..i'm guessing opiates can be the greatest drug..if u had a super clean source which would never end (hint mmt)..however, the pain and agony ive experienced the past 16 days can only be described as agony in many forms. stomachaches (fucking shit they just came today and by god, they can be so bad it makes me feel like i cant go on in life) , the nausea, the fatigue when you are w/ding but been sitting on the couch for 2 hours that makes you feel like your gona die from your body wearing itself out..the depression..but god..i know its all a price i'm paying . i just hope i get through this . please guys, although opiates CAN be a perfect drug in the sense (god i dnot even want to think about how blissful that shit can be..) that they are just so wonderful in so many ways..i can't say that it was totally worth what i've went through/am going to go through . im posting this, because this is a harm reduction site, ppl who come across this with little/no knowledge of the good ol opiates..STOP! don't go and find yourself some pain killers becaues you read that they are the perfect drugs..i swear the most ridiculous reasons can get you caught the fuck up in this game..i got caught up from my extremely ignorant self (at the time, i thought i was a genius. not when im high, just the sense of "knowing" yourself, your limits, etc) but gee golly how fucking wrong i was. here i am 1 year later from opiate abuse, in the middle/end stages of w/d hoping i dont have severe damage to my gastrointestinal tract, kidneys, liver, etc . i dnot think i'd be worryin about all this if i had some oxycontin instead of them apap riddled shits however..BUT. that would be a whole different situation..id proly have a 10 word comment on here as well saying "omg. opiates. bomb. the end." but gosh..i cant say that at the moment. just BE CAREFUL, and i cant even emphasize the importance of SELF CONTROL because i didnt even have the self control to make all the pain and discomfort disappear in the 30 minutes time it takes for that norco to have fully gone to effect. jeezus, be careful y'all. peace
 
They are good yes, but they are far from perfect. I find that the sedation, itchiness and nausea are enough to make them imperfect, combine that with risk of addiction or overdose and that's enough for them to not be my favourite class of drugs. Don't get me wrong, I've been getting pretty fond of them of late, but a nice roll or some 2C-B is far more desirable (in the right setting) than opiates (in their correct setting).

However I'm yet to try smoking or snorting diacetylmorphine, and until I do, I cannot really pass judgement...
 
goddamnit guys, reading this thread seriously just made up my mind as to whether or not i was going to get high tomorrow..

and ill let you guess which it is!

haha actually thanks guys, cant wait
 
no, they cause nausea, constipation and itching and tolerance develops too quickly. once you have a tolerance the high doesn't last long anymore and isn't as good.
 
isn't there a methadone analogue that causes lsd-like mind expansion/visuals and has all the effects of a nice dose of methadone?

i thought that was the perfect drug...

anyway...to each their own...some people hate opiates but blow rails of coke all day/night...i don't think they would consider opiates the perfect drug
 
absolutely!

MagicHours said:
Lately Ive just been burnt out on drugs. Too much of everything. So, Ive taken about 3 weeks off of drug usage, and I am now ready to resume. But in thinking of which drug i want to start off with, i realized something. Opiates might be the perfect drug. Hint: keep the words USED IN MODERATION in mind when reading this.

Think about it. Ecstasy is great. Wonderful high, great times bonding or dancing or whatever you like to do. Then comes the nasty comedown and the infamous "day after."

Coke (can also include other stimulants possibly). Fun as hell. Great rushes, good conversations. Then again, an even nastier come down. The only thing i want to do on a coke comedown is sleep or place a bullet in my head. And since sleep is so hard to achieve...well, better get some xanax or somethin cuz i dont really wanna shoot myself.

Mushrooms/lsd/any other Psychedelic. Trip out, laugh all night, meet god, get lost in the woods, whatever, its all fun on mushrooms. Yeah, all fun until you dont know who you are and you are left contemplating everything you learned for the next week and wondering if your life needs some dramatic change.

Xanax. Nice relaxing, euphoric high. Then the memory loss kicks in along with some horrible physical dependence.

But then theres opiates. Besides the obvious threat of addiction, which can come with many drugs, (but like i said, MODERATION) opiates treat you fairly nice. Think about insuffulated heroin. Easy come up, long, relaxing, euphoric high, then easy comedown, if you even want to call it a comedown.

Its like that with hydrocodone, codeine, and even oxycodone. Easy up, easy down.

So this thread turned out longer than I imagined, but does anyone agree that opiates have to be the perfect drugs? With such great effects and so very little bad side effects in comparison to other drugs, how can you go wrong?
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i could not agree more. love opiates. hmm i always wanted to smoke opium. looks so damn wonderful!
 
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