approaching girls at school?

[rangrz]

I get shot down sometimes. I don't care, if the worst thing that happens to me is having my sexual advances rejected, I am having a great day.

 

[Folley]

I just met you... and this is crazy... but here's my number, so call me maybe?

 

[MyFinalRest]

Judging from the number of discarded condoms in my waste basket, confidence, humor and openness are successful.

Based on your past posts, I don't find this believable. Not much of the stories you tell here or in politics forum are accurate. Maybe you only throw out your trash once every five years?

Unfortunately we all have to market ourselves whether or not we like to, because if you can't interest the person you're talking to then there's really no reason for them to reciprocate.

Don't try to commercialize dating...it doesn't work.

Be careful with trying to put on an act. I'm highly turned off by people putting on a big act when you first meet them. Some people like it and fall for it, but it's flakey all around. If a woman acts like someone screening actors for a role in a movie then don't waste your time. Love and relationships are about more than marketing. Just look for the one who will have conversations with you before judging. Those are smart women, but there aren't many.

 

[rangrz]

Believe what ever the hell you want, I'm not the one who buys into illumanti conspiracy theories, or other such patent nonsense mind you. Perhaps your ability to determine fact from fictional is distorted?

anyways, as I said, bitter that it's not you getting laid.

 

[MyFinalRest]

rangrz,
I'm better looking than you, have a much better personality, and win women over often enough. But, true I am bitter about not finding anything meaningful yet. And I just don't like the style in which we approach dating. Hell, dating almost doesn't even exist anymore. It's all trashed up now. For a mathematics man like yourself, certainly you can see how our current approaches lead to less fulfillment in relationships.

But, guys like you leave bad impressions on women and it weirds them out. At least I have left good impressions. Even the exes that say this and that know the truth, it was them, not me. For you rangrz - I'm sure it was you, not them.

This thread has nothing to do with how much I get laid, to me it's about creating more and better opportunities to meet people and be less harsh and judgemental. I could care less about 50 one night stands. I'd like to meet a longterm female companion.

I'd like less fake bullshit out there and more real conversation in the dating world. It would help us be with the ones we want instead of just gradually making us disapointed and even fearful. I am bitter about wasting so much effort and only getting laid at best instead findng more.

 

[MyFinalRest]

I just met you... and this is crazy... but here's my number, so call me maybe?

I remember the good ol' days when it was just "nice to meet you, here's my number, there's nothing 'crazy' about this, so call me maybe?"

 

[PlurPsyed]

But you are revealing a major contradiction in your dating attitude here. Girls are so fucking quick to judge a man too. If you're looking just at a man's assertive style, chances are you are going to go for the guy who just wants to bone and move on. Maybe you should realize that the better men are plenty confident and assertive and would stand up for their girl, but they don't tend to make a habit out of going after one girl after another, and when you don't, you can't be a slick, well practiced actor like a car salesman.

In my personal situations, I've heard this "Gurls lyke Confidence" over and over, but I see girls going for the lamest, drippiest, weenies a lot of the time, and sometimes these guys don't even look good. Or, they tend to go for these phony tough types and they get a lot of tattoos to try to take on the badass image.

There's not many women out there that really appreciate my confidence, directness, and good character, only a few that can see through bullshit and appreciate the real thing. The majority is either Jersey Shore or Emo bullshit.

So maybe you are misjudging the better guys because they don't have some slick act down and you end up becoming too defensive because the ones society is teaching you to be attracted to are the ones who are nothing more than roaming boners?

I don't know, I'm attracted to humor, intellect, and assertiveness above all. I'd take a guy who's a little less attractive who can carry on a conversation over a hot looking dude who has nothing to say

 

[rangrz]

Better looking and better personality are quite subjective, particularly the personality aspect.

I don't claim to be all that good looking or amicable anyways. But I'm happy to see you are so confident in your positive traits, and your superiority over others. (Your looks,personality, how people like me leave bad impressions but you leave good ones, how you're inability to find a meaningful relationship despite effort is the fault of women etc)

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

For my part, I've not had a one night stand in a very long time, and do genuinely respect and like(or in the case of.Ms.G deeply love) the girls I'm intimate with.

 

[MyFinalRest]

Man, rangrz...I'm sorry, I'm talkin' too much shit.

But, you do have the wrong idea about some of us, and yes it is a conspiracy being waged in the media to fuck up our dating lives.

I don't know, I'm attracted to humor, intellect, and assertiveness above all. I'd take a guy who's a little less attractive who can carry on a conversation over a hot looking dude who has nothing to say

I know women who take interest in ugly dudes who have nothing to say and when they do say something, it's awful by any standards. Really, I don't get how some attractive and interesting girls choose such dull looking and dull personality guys sometimes. It proves there is no winning formula. You'll just win with certain people, and with certain people you won't.

Believe it or not, lots of women think I'm attractive, I always have plenty to say - don't I always - and I'm plenty assertive (It gets me in lots of trouble, trust me), but I still play "roulette" when it comes to finding women interested. I strike out plenty to find good ones. These days I'm so tired of it all I mostly miss the good opportunities cause I just have been stricken with apathy. It shouldn't have ended up like that.

But as whole, there is no advice to give OP other than just be reasonable, avoid hitting extremes, and be prepared to talk to many to possibly find one that clicks, and especially be on the notice and open-minded for when women act interested in you. I might have been married if on a few occasions I didn't say to myself "she's too young," "I don't like the way she dresses" etc. or if I was halfway paying attention to advances and got her number.

I've found that just being direct about asking someone on a date, even if it's totally out of the blue and random, works just as well and takes much less effort. Just don't put too much thought in it and don't focus on your nerves. Everybody gets a bit nervous about it.