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Appreciation of Music and Medications!!

yeah it definitely is, it causes the peripheral stimulation and most people say it sucks. levo methamp is active too which is why its used as a decongestant, it won't get you high but will clear up your nose lol.

adderall is a mix of both isomers, dexedrine is just the d isomer which makes it more smooth. As for street meth, i'm not sure if there's any levo meth in there from the synthesis, maybe interesting to look into that.
 
Yea, well I got caught "cheeking" my pills here-zoloft and propanolol. So they took me off the zoloft all together. I feel the music appreciation alot more. But the "withdrawels" make it hard for me to enjoy much of anything. I really didn't think it'd be this hard to get off...I mean it's just an anti-deppresant right?
I also stopped my propanlol for a couple days in a kind of defiant way.
The withdrawels were actually pretty bad on that too...now I'm on everything I was on before minus the zoloft.
Tell me if this sounds weird but it seems that trazadone make actually give me more music appreciation..?

N' the last couple of "facilitys" I've been in-tell me if this makes much sense- they mix they're adderall with well butrin and Lithium. They mix everything here with lithium. It helps clear out the nose- but it made me wonder- I know lithium can sometimes be used for shizophrania and schitzophrenia (i know i spelled it wrong) is caused by an over ammount of dopamine. So wouldn't lithium probally make the effects of adderall less? and the reason I was taken off most of the meds I was on whe I first got there is because they have a formualary here and none of those meds were on it. The nuerontin isn't even on the formulary, I had to get it specially approved.
 
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Don't ask for advice on lithium on a forum. It's a serious drug with serious consequences. Getting on a drug like lithium is insane for the sole purpose of increasing music appreciation.

I have to agree with robot, I think the SSRI may have been the culprit. Again though look how many different answers you got, which summarizes the point that everyone is different. Soliciting information on heavy pharmaceuticals to increase music appreciation is anti-harm reduction.

Propranolol has no serious withdrawal symptoms, you may be withdrawing from the sertraline.
 
anyone have any expierences with wellbutrin and music?
And actually beta-blockers do have withdrawels. There not neccasarilly excruitiating, but excessive tiredness. Fatigue etc, are all symptoms of 'withdrawels' from beta-blockers and can be considered serious. Yet withdrawels really just mean, the rebound effect you get from a medication when getting off of it which pretty much every medication has. Yet again its all opinion based (besides the physical symptoms) so theres no right or wrong answer.
 
yeah you're supposed to taper beta blockers. I do not like welbutrin and found no effect from it in terms of music appreciation, it might enhance it as it a norepinephrine and dopamine reupdate inhibitor. Ethylphenidate is also an DNRI and it doesn't really make music sound amazing to me like mdma, methylone or psychs would.
 
RobotRipping said:
yeah it definitely is, it causes the peripheral stimulation and most people say it sucks. levo methamp is active too which is why its used as a decongestant, it won't get you high but will clear up your nose lol.

adderall is a mix of both isomers, dexedrine is just the d isomer which makes it more smooth. As for street meth, i'm not sure if there's any levo meth in there from the synthesis, maybe interesting to look into that.
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Yes, most street meth is a racemic mixture of l-methamp and d-methamp.
 
actually beta-blockers do have withdrawels
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Since your sympathetic nervous system has been dampened all you can experience is tachycardia, anxiety, tremor and hypersensitivity to adrenaline.

If tapered correctly and even fairly rapidly withdrawal symptoms from beta-blockers are mild and short lived.
 
MMMMKAY?! said:
Mann, well this really sucks. :[[. Propanolol is like the only anxiety med thats actually helped with social anxiety for me-and it doesnt make me too foggy minded. I also have borderline personality disorder which is sometimes believed to be really just a form of PTSD and seeing as how propanolol is often used for PTSD i dont know if my doctor would want me off it. But i would literally rather be emotionaly chaotic and enjoy music than emotionally stable and not enjoy it. Do you know if there are like any meds i could add to reduce these affects?? And if it is caused by the ssri, seeing as how lithium is a mood stabilizer do you think that would help?? any suggestions
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Amen to that"I would rather be emotionally chaotic and enjoy music,than emotionally stable,and not enjoy it"...Some withdraw from meds can cause change in passions,but in your case,you are on a lot of mentality altering drugs...I would honestly stop taking one each for a week to see if it changes.I don't think it is the interactions of any of your meds combined,rather than one culprit.
 
I've been on almost every ssri, zoloft being the current. And never not once has a medication changed my affinity towards music in a negative way. No way any of this might be placebo? What type of music do you write? Maybe you need some inspiration.
 
No I'm pretty positive it's not a "placebo" effect, at least with the SSRI's-but with the beta-blocker, It's hard for me to tell if it really is changing my ability to appreciate music, or if im just over thinking it when I take it, then not enjoying music as much because of that. And as for inspiration-thats never been a problem and don't believe it ever will be x]]. I actually get inspired pretty easily!
Nd' if anyone else has been on the beta's and noticed a change in music please post about it? :]]. thanks
 
I guess I just have a hard time seeing how enjoying music can be more important than finding a medical combination that helps you to feel well in general. That is to say if your meds are regulated properly you should be able to enjoy the things you typically would.

Aim for mental well being first, and then worry about slowly gaining back previous interests.
 
bronson said:
I guess I just have a hard time seeing how enjoying music can be more important than finding a medical combination that helps you to feel well in general. That is to say if your meds are regulated properly you should be able to enjoy the things you typically would.

Aim for mental well being first, and then worry about slowly gaining back previous interests.
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Good advice, as always :)
 
Ha. Yea I see your concern. The reality is though (in my opinion at least) that most of the meds im on excluding the propanol and gabapentin- make everything worse. (muisc's my best medicine). And I've researched this and Dr. Linehan (she's like the main lady in BPD research o:.) says that no meds is probally better for BPD-and BPD is the only major mental illness better corrected by therapy that medication.
So the medication really doesn't matter IMO o:. like to me they just kinda help with the emotional angst but still make some thingss worse yuu know?
Though, I do understand where your coming from-I'd take music above emotional distraught (if that were the case) any day. :]]
 
bronson said:
I guess I just have a hard time seeing how enjoying music can be more important than finding a medical combination that helps you to feel well in general. That is to say if your meds are regulated properly you should be able to enjoy the things you typically would.

Aim for mental well being first, and then worry about slowly gaining back previous interests.
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It's cool to see how people are so different,but the same...For instance,I understand totally how MMMKAY feels about putting music first.I'm also a musician,so I can empathize with the emotion.Yet,it's strange to me for someone to say,"focus on well being first"...At the same time,many people would 100% agree with you...Human psychology is AWESOME!...Hey MMMKAY,do you have any links to any of your music?
 
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Hey MMMKAY,do you have any links to any of your music?
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Not currently because of the situation I'm in. But when I get out I'll try to find some of the links-(most got deleted when the drummer of the band killed himself) ://. But when I get out I'll give you a link :]]

and just so you guys know I'm currently off the zoloft I'm on the propanolol once in the morning (only) and the rest is the same. It's so stupid that weed's illegal though, weed helps my anxiety and adhd more than all these meds combined and has less side effects. The adderall isn't even worth it-like the first dose I take for about 4 hours (tops) I feel motivated, focused and creative but then after that even with the noon dose it just doesnt feel right /: Americas stupid

ha well yea thats prolly how id be if i was back at home where theres not other people admineresting my meds for me
 
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gabapentin changed my sense of music, it sounded differently, not necessary better or worse, but different

can't really explain it, it distorted sounds somewhat

I'd loose the gabapentin as fast as possible by the way unless it's really helping you or you plan on taking it for life, withdrawals are the worst in the world. I cringe everytime I see it prescribed for other things than pain.

Please think of this, you don't want to develop an addiction to this med, I was a victim of getting it prescribed as a "less addicting alternative to benzos" well I had been addicted to benzos for years and that was a walk in the park to come off compared to this med. I've been through withdrawal from everything under the sun, but if I had to suffer withdrawal from neurontin again, I'd pick up my gun and end it. And I don't believe in suicide...
 
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Yup, as always, pregabalin/neurontin is 10x worse withdrawal wise than benzos. I have no idea why, but they are. It took me a year to taper from using it at 600mg for 6 months.
 
and I am a fucking masochist so I had to quit cold turkey at 3600mg and have suffered physical and mental withdrawal for 7 months now, and I thought methadone withdrawal was the definition of pain

/lol it seems like a cold compared

it's unsettling they prescribe these meds without care at all I think, they basically throw them at everyone with social awkwardness/depression/anxiety, things they don't even really help for once you get tolerance which happens fast

it is great for nerve pain, but then I would onl take it if my pain was extremely bad and I had to use it untill I died,

the horror the horror

/back to topic just had to rant about this poison, please please please save yourself our misery, nothing in the world is worth it
 
Toz and Synthetix you guys are definitely right about the pregabalin/gabapentin withdrawals, after being through every withdrawal possible they still have the bar set. The problem with becoming addicted to them as well is they're such a great tool for withdrawal, once addiction happens you can kiss that goodbye.

MMMMKAY?! I told you before, if you want to change your beta-blocker talk to your doctor about it. These medications have a cardiovascular impact on your health, asking for recommendations from strangers isn't going to do you any good.
 
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