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Anyway to make psychedelic truffles (P. Atlantis) stronger?

You can use monoamine oxidase inhibitor, for example moclobemide. Piracetam won't enhance action of psychedelics
 
i believe truffles are anywhere from 20-60% strength of dried cubensis, so they do require a totally different mass in order to get the same trip.

"lemon tek" (there's another thead open right now) can increase a trip simply by making the whole bunch of alkaloids immediately available to the body instead of taking a few minutes to break down the shroom matter, but this can only do so much.

Adding an MAO inhibitor like moclobemide or harmaline/harmine/syrian rue will create a totally different trip much closer to oral DMT/ayahuasca. It's definitely worthwhile to try, but it's well into "OUM spiritual shaman" territory instead of "WHUA trippin balls"
 
foolsgold said:
i tried these once from a supplier in holland and i got nothing at all off them .
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That's strange. I had ordered from a more expensive company and then I read on the Shroomery the cheaper company actually supplies the more expensive company. The cheaper company was about 40% cheaper which makes sense. I know price discussion isn't allowed here, even on quazi-legal substances so I won't name specific numbers but both companies are well known Internet dealers of truffles.

Anyhow, getting to the point, when I ate the P. Tampanesis I had a genuinely good time, it just wasn't strong enough for me. Granted, at the time they were only selling them in 10g doses and now it's 12g doses and one of the girls I was planning on doing this with got pregnant (this is a good thing, they're lesbians and have been trying for 9 months to get pregnant with the turkey baster method) so I've got "up to" 18g available.

Atlanis are suppose to be the stronger of the ones these companies offer so maybe I'll take 18g and lemon tek it.

I'm not looking to woah dude, I need mental and spiritual healing after events in my life beginning about 10 months ago. I haven't done any psychedelics in this time except N,N-DMT that I extracted myself and I don't find it particularly useful. Probably because I've never MAOI+oral'd it.
 
A Dark room and forget about everything you have read / heard about them.

Dose, chill and relax!

I really enjoyed the truffles - just relax and get comfortable as if you were going to go to sleep. Open your mind and let it wander - dont think about 'tripping' !
 
if you do need potentiation, drinking a bit of lemon juice is something i tried once and i think it worked very well. im not sure how much i used but i made two big glasses of lemonade with it. just lemon juice water sugar, it was actually quite yummy.
 
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Just placebomine I'm afraid.

Moclobemide will turn the mushroom trip into an oral DMT trip which means it will be a lot more psychedelic with a gorgeous bodyhigh.
 
Ismene said:
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Just placebomine I'm afraid.

Moclobemide will turn the mushroom trip into an oral DMT trip which means it will be a lot more psychedelic with a gorgeous bodyhigh.
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i dont doubt it lol.
dose would need to be adjusted if taken with an MAOI, correct? from what i understand it potentiates it to a pretty high degree. i heard something along the lines of half your typical mushroom trip.

also, if i could add a question for the sake of information, truffles are usually marketed as 'philosopher's stone' and descriptions of their effects claim that the trip is much less visual, and more mind opening and "philosophical". is this just to differentiate from actual psilocybe, or is there any merit to this claim?
 
It depends how experienced you are and how you like your trips. Obviously start with a lower dose initially if you like but I take my full dose of shrooms with 300mg moclobemide. The more the better! It's the ultimate psychedelic.

I think those descriptions of it being "less visual" is just horseshit the smartshops in Holland used to make up to sell it. It's psilocybin so it's going to be the same trip as any other mushroom trip.
 
Try powdered in a shot of lemon juice. It won't magically make them stronger but will alter the trip to be noticeably shorter in duration but with a more rapid and sharp peak.
 
^^ But why would lemon juice have such effect when the acid in your stomach is about a thousand times stronger? I agree that taking it in a drink is going to hit you quicker than taking capsules but once the psilocybin is in your bloodstream it's going to be a psilocybin trip.

Psilocybin trips do vary in effect tho - some hit harder, some last longer, it's a drug that varies tremendously on all sorts of things like your mood, the weather, your physical condition etc.
 
Ismene said:
^^ But why would lemon juice have such effect when the acid in your stomach is about a thousand times stronger?
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I'm no chemist, but unlike your (acidic) stomach, lemon juice is very strongly ALKALINE. Perhaps acidity reduces the absorption/uptake by the body andthe presence of an alkaline agent balances this out? Might need to ask the folks on the ADD board to confirm.
 
Ismene said:
I think you've got yourself mixed up there octagon - lemon juice is definately acidic. It's citric acid.
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Sorry, I should have specified that I was referring to the fact that genuinely fresh lemon juice is anionic (i.e., alkaline) as far as the body is concerned. This obviously doesn't apply to pre-processed lemon drinks or lemon juice that's been out of the lemon and in the fridge for a while. But freshly squeezed lemon juice is said to be received by the body as alkaline.

P.S., as mentioned I'm no chemist so please do correct me!
 
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