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Anyone recommend non-bullshit ways of getting some $ for online writing?
- Thread starter MrsGamp
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Tuftypanda
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The Flow is a company hiring for ghost writers to do autobiographies, it seems to pay well and seems legit but I have yet to get them to hire me. Might be worth a try
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
Some small journals like New Matilda pay their contributors. For both fiction and non-fiction.
I am wondering, since I know you are writing too, if you would be interested in having a proof reader?
All free and gratis, if you will read my attempt at writing a horror novel, and tell me (honestly!) what you think
For I am a little stuck.
See:
"The Job" Wobbly version, semi-edited, July 20
...The Job To her surprise the office was easy to find. In between a dentist's and an op-shop there was the car park with a gate, and on the gate the sign - LAWYERS 6/5001 PARKING AT REAR NO TRESPASSERS -...
www.bluelight.org
And absolutely no pressure, btw. I have taught English and Lit at both universities and high schools for years, and know how tiresome it can be, reading people's stuff!!!!
Emoticon is smiling here...
dopamimetic
Bluelighter
I was thinking about the same, or in general if it's still possible to make some legit money online but after looking at freelancer apps like 'fiverr' where you can literally buy websites for 5$ I kinda lost hope.. obviously these won't be high quality but I wouldn't want to make crap bullshit for dumping prices somehow, as I guess when you start doing this you lose chance to get the more serious offers - of course, online is the world of nickname and one could just offer IamVeryClever-CheapDept and IamVeryClever-HiQDept so people wouldn't associate one with the other.
Don't know, a website for 5$. If they are happy with one page, or one and an impressum, and buy the logo for another 5$, then why not. Or are these dumping offers just decoys which will cost more in the end? Any experiences?
Unsure what's possible purely online, what I'd love to do but guess I'm not alone with by far, is testing products - be it non-finished ones (beta testing) and recommending improvements, or finished things for reviews ... never wrote literature, the latest was probably in adult high school, 10 years ago, so I won't compete with @MrsGamp
I could offer English -> German translations, or for non-literature things like e.g. user manuals probably also the vice versa.
But all that stuff is so widely known, they have k's of shares and a sh*toad of individuals is lazy and wants to make easy money, Granted, hopefully a part of these lazy indiv's will be too lazy to produce quality stuff but for this we have said 5$ options so ... it's hard to find a working 'niche'. YouTube has an abundance of videos to this topic, I just can't stand watching this 'motivation guru' kind of well-trained men bubbling with energy, telling you how easy everything is. That you need to just do, that with 100 tries you will make 1$, so you just try 100.000 times and voila. Zooming on web-money wallets with envy arousing numbers.
They have reason for telling all that bullshit we already know - they monetize it. So instead of increasing their yield, maybe we should start our own vlog. But now searching for 'how to start a vlog' brings the same in green.
I use to think that the time of easy online money is just over, we have too many of so-called influencers, motivators, trainers, coaches, with or without title, in fake or real, etc.pp.
But I used to think too that bitcoin would have reached its zenith when it was 100$, then when it was 1000$. That people will lose money who bet on it (they did, but others made a fortune).
Don't know, a website for 5$. If they are happy with one page, or one and an impressum, and buy the logo for another 5$, then why not. Or are these dumping offers just decoys which will cost more in the end? Any experiences?
Unsure what's possible purely online, what I'd love to do but guess I'm not alone with by far, is testing products - be it non-finished ones (beta testing) and recommending improvements, or finished things for reviews ... never wrote literature, the latest was probably in adult high school, 10 years ago, so I won't compete with @MrsGamp
I could offer English -> German translations, or for non-literature things like e.g. user manuals probably also the vice versa.
But all that stuff is so widely known, they have k's of shares and a sh*toad of individuals is lazy and wants to make easy money, Granted, hopefully a part of these lazy indiv's will be too lazy to produce quality stuff but for this we have said 5$ options so ... it's hard to find a working 'niche'. YouTube has an abundance of videos to this topic, I just can't stand watching this 'motivation guru' kind of well-trained men bubbling with energy, telling you how easy everything is. That you need to just do, that with 100 tries you will make 1$, so you just try 100.000 times and voila. Zooming on web-money wallets with envy arousing numbers.
They have reason for telling all that bullshit we already know - they monetize it. So instead of increasing their yield, maybe we should start our own vlog. But now searching for 'how to start a vlog' brings the same in green.
I use to think that the time of easy online money is just over, we have too many of so-called influencers, motivators, trainers, coaches, with or without title, in fake or real, etc.pp.
But I used to think too that bitcoin would have reached its zenith when it was 100$, then when it was 1000$. That people will lose money who bet on it (they did, but others made a fortune).
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Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
@dopamimetic you could check out Freelancer.com and list your various skills. I’ve used translators and transcribers from there but price wise you’d be competing with Sri Lankans (but eventually their clients realise you get what you pay for - and the cheap ones just rely on google translate).
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
I am wondering, since I know you are writing too, if you would be interested in having a proof reader?
All free and gratis, if you will read my attempt at writing a horror novel, and tell me (honestly!) what you think
For I am a little stuck.
See:
"The Job" Wobbly version, semi-edited, July 20
...The Job To her surprise the office was easy to find. In between a dentist's and an op-shop there was the car park with a gate, and on the gate the sign - LAWYERS 6/5001 PARKING AT REAR NO TRESPASSERS -...
And absolutely no pressure, btw. I have taught English and Lit at both universities and high schools for years, and know how tiresome it can be, reading people's stuff!!!!
Emoticon is smiling here...
The only thing I’m writing is my dissertation which really needs technical readers in philosophical aesthetics. I would not inflict it on a civilian at this point.
However I would be honoured to read and comment on (relatively short) pieces of yours. I enjoy reading you around here. I don’t have the bandwidth to read a novel given my own deadlines plus necessaey meth downtime but I’m up for anything up to 3000 words and not time sensitive.
dopamimetic
Bluelighter
I use translator too but don't depend on it.. it's just faster than using a dictionary and with it I could offer more languages (French, basic Spanish). When you see the quality of many Chinese manuals, it's not hard to surpass. Some seem to just copy & paste.
Problem is that I'm only spelling-perfect in German as most of my English is self-taught and there will be much more offers for English texts. Don't know whether a spell check from e.g. Word would do it, but I hope so.
Fiverr, freelancer.com yeah ... I should look for German speaking sites maybe, but never seen something alike.
What exists too are paid surveys but the good ones are rare. Found a Swiss local company which pays between 5 to 12 CHF for a survey needing maybe 15-30min of time. Sometimes they make more detailed marketing studies which can give 60 CHF for an 1h online interview but only for few participants, first you complete a short survey where they check whether you fit in their criteria (e.g. own an e-bike, or work in a certain field of business) and then have the algorithm select a few. Never actually got selected yet (but improved my chances with time.. like of course I won't select 'no work' etc.. it's like diagnosis questionnaires at the doc's).
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
I use translator too but don't depend on it.. it's just faster than using a dictionary and with it I could offer more languages (French, basic Spanish). When you see the quality of many Chinese manuals, it's not hard to surpass. Some seem to just copy & paste.
Problem is that I'm only spelling-perfect in German as most of my English is self-taught and there will be much more offers for English texts. Don't know whether a spell check from e.g. Word would do it, but I hope so.
Fiverr, freelancer.com yeah ... I should look for German speaking sites maybe, but never seen something alike.
What exists too are paid surveys but the good ones are rare. Found a Swiss local company which pays between 5 to 12 CHF for a survey needing maybe 15-30min of time. Sometimes they make more detailed marketing studies which can give 60 CHF for an 1h online interview but only for few participants, first you complete a short survey where they check whether you fit in their criteria (e.g. own an e-bike, or work in a certain field of business) and then have the algorithm select a few. Never actually got selected yet (but improved my chances with time.. like of course I won't select 'no work' etc.. it's like diagnosis questionnaires at the doc's).
Just coming out of left field, is your health up to manual labour? From knowing you online I wonder whether you might enjoy fairly mindless work that left you lots of bandwidth for thinking your own deep thoughts. Plus its exercise that you get paid for. I had to take a break a few times from very cerebral corporate work for mental health reasons and went to work on a farm once and as a construction labourer another time. I made better than survival money and found my cognitive skills and emotional levels began to improve almost immediately. If I still had to work for money that’s what I would do, so long as it was outdoors. Good honest manual labour and minimum wage urban drone labour are very different in their benefits.
Ta ...btw what philosophers specifically?
I have studied philosophy myself - my strong suits are the Continentals, Existentialism from 19th century (Nietzche, Kierkgaard esp), Satre, Camus, amd most recently (I admit) Zizek.
Also interested in Husserl/phenemonolgy.
A friend of mine did a dissertation on the phenemonolgy of reading. Am not sure whether this falls under purview of philosophy and aesthetics in your context ...do tell more when you have time
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- as if ... Am living on bread and cheese and washing my hair with dishwashing detergent...)
have tried Fiverr but can't seem to get myself construed as a person up-to-be-hired, although they are willing to let me register as a person-doing-hiring. (I use translator too but don't depend on it.. it's just faster than using a dictionary and with it I could offer more languages (French, basic Spanish). When you see the quality of many Chinese manuals, it's not hard to surpass. Some seem to just copy & paste.
Problem is that I'm only spelling-perfect in German as most of my English is self-taught and there will be much more offers for English texts. Don't know whether a spell check from e.g. Word would do it, but I hope so.
Fiverr, freelancer.com yeah ... I should look for German speaking sites maybe, but never seen something alike.
What exists too are paid surveys but the good ones are rare. Found a Swiss local company which pays between 5 to 12 CHF for a survey needing maybe 15-30min of time. Sometimes they make more detailed marketing studies which can give 60 CHF for an 1h online interview but only for few participants, first you complete a short survey where they check whether you fit in their criteria (e.g. own an e-bike, or work in a certain field of business) and then have the algorithm select a few. Never actually got selected yet (but improved my chances with time.. like of course I won't select 'no work' etc.. it's like diagnosis questionnaires at the doc's).
- as if ... Am living on bread and cheese and washing my hair with dishwashing detergent...)
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
I have a strong non-professional interest in the existentialists and they have really helped shape my worldview. I’m reading Nietzche’s biography at the moment as well as his Twilight of the Idols. I cheat a lot in philosophy by beginning with the secondary literature but am making more of an effort with original sources. I also just finished reading a couple of books about 20th century French philosophy as its hard to write a thesis in my faculty without at least acknowledging post-structuralism.Ta ...btw what philosophers specifically?
I have studied philosophy myself - my strong suits are the Continentals, Existentialism from 19th century (Nietzche, Kierkgaard esp), Satre, Camus, amd most recently (I admit) Zizek.
Also interested in Husserl/phenemonolgy.
A friend of mine did a dissertation on the phenemonolgy of reading. Am not sure whether this falls under purview of philosophy and aesthetics in your context ...do tell more when you have time
I can’t really discuss my thesis here because it is so specific it would have the same ability to identify my as posting my home address and phone number. However I can say that philosophically it owes a great debt to the nineteenth century German Idealists and I’m looking for a way to get more Nietzsche into it.
I’ve actually never read anything by Zizek and generally avoid recent continental philosophy because I have a phobia of obscurantism. I can deal with Foucault but think people like Deleuze and Gauttiari or Badiou are basically intellectual frauds. If it requires me to read it closely more than once to understand it I’ll pass.
dopamimetic
Bluelighter
Depends on the strength required ... can't really estimate but shouldn't be too different from other people in their 30s who neglected fitness for too long. I'm 75kg / 180cm and feels like it's more a mental thing than physical what keeps me off exercise or labour. Sometimes I liked to go for long walks, specially in groups but it's been long since..
Indeed I thought about volunteering stuff like workaway.info where you find projects all around the world but of course these don't pay you, and this doesn't have to mean that in exchange the conditions are more relaxed.. for some projects this might be, but what I read is more that some are pretty strict, of course they want their things done and take strangers into their property including food & bed but also usually the rules are against substance use (which I somehow understand but they should rather say, we don't tolerate intoxication/impairment during work imo.. it feels like 'we don't want you').. And while I'd love to support a good project like animal help/rescue, renewable energy, whatever -- it feels wrong to work for free for some rich guys who just acquired a big piece of earth they can't handle on their own.. then fuck they should check how people work and if they bring solid labor, pay them a bit.
Thing is while in my teens I would have said, ugh manual work - I'd love to love working, would certainly help with low self esteem and feelings of being worthless, weak but my attempts in past didn't exactly give me hope. I am somebody who can't stop his mind, plus got ADD like symptoms. So on good days or with a stim, I love to do things which require the mind like writing, programming etc. or multi-tasking stuff because I get bored so easily and then my thoughts begin to race around the past which makes me depressed and angry..
Know it requires work, tried to talk with psychiatrists etc. (psychotherapy isn't available for me because insurance doesn't cover) and came to the obvious conclusion that there is no magic bullet, I need to overcome these things but then always fell for drugs..
Of course recreational drug use & work tends to bite - just radical sobriety isn't for me right now. Tried it again, 2 months ago and became suicidal. Had some attempts spanning over many months and things didn't increase above a pretty low plateau.
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In the end (sorry for wall of text), it'll remain theoretical. I need to get some papers, diploma etc. first because I lack anything, references, everything for many years now. And I don't have the money to make papers... I am thinking about finishing adult high school which is free in some places but everyone I talk to about tells me it will be wasted time because just high school doesn't give me a job (correct, at least I could go study - which needs money and will be around 40 when and if finished).
How do you guys handle the reference thing in such online services? Freelancer.com offers like language tests, for 5$ each. Is this bullshit or helps?
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Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
If you have problems with your employability maybe you could start out with some low psychological risk volunteering somewhere. It might be beneficial for your recovery and provide an opportunity to work on different areas of yourself while giving you something to put on your resume in support of more formal work as your recovery / development proceeds? I reckon having just a few commitments in life (like to be somewhere regularly at a certain time to help other people) does wonders for self-esteem.
Captain.Heroin
Bluelight Crew
Create fringe covid is a hoax theory websites and place ads on it. Easy ad revenue I am sure.
Basically write about anything you love, on a website, + ads = ad revenue
Basically write about anything you love, on a website, + ads = ad revenue