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Damn I hope all y'all commercial growers out there who might have posted incriminating pictures on those websites are taking proper precautions now...

I get the impression that people in the U.S. that can be implicated through these sites in any way are not necessarily safe being in the U.S.

I'm so glad that there are so many growers out there this day and age. Keep growing people, so I don't have to! ;)
 
I think the 272 people who ordered after the bust are in more trouble then anyone posting pics on Overgrow or Cannabisworld.

Here's a couple more news articles:
THE RCMP DISMANTLES AN INTERNATIONAL DRUG
DISTRIBUTION NETWORK ON THE INTERNET

MONTRÉAL, Tuesday, February 28, 2006 – The members of the Marihuana Grow Operations Enforcement Team of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police concluded their first major operation when they uncovered a Montreal based criminal organization involved in the trafficking, importation and exportation of cannabis seeds, as well as in conspiring for the purpose of cannabis cultivation via the Internet. This operation was launched in November 2004 under the name "Courriel" and culminated with the seizure of 200,000 cannabis seeds and the arrest of seven persons.

Project "Courriel" revealed that Richard Hratch BAGHDADLIAN, 38, from Marsan Street in Montreal, and six other persons operated the Heaven’s Stairway company. This company was on the web claiming to be the North American supplier for indoor and outdoor cannabis production.

The cybercompany Heaven’s Stairway used the Internet sites hempqc.com, cannabisworld.com, overgrow.com, eurohemp.com, cannabisseeds.com, and cannabisbay.com. These sites were used to order cannabis seeds online and obtain information on cannabis cultivation. These Internet sites also suggested ways to outsmart the police.

Richard Hratch BAGHDADLIAN was the instigator, head and main beneficiary of the illicit company Heaven’s Straiway. The other six accused acted as couriers and performed other duties for the company. They are Geoffrey CHAN, 33, Maria Cristina CIVITILLO, 32, Natalie BAGHDADLIAN, 40, Manuel Bento FERNANDES, 45, Christopher ALMOND, 38, and Teresa RODRIGUES, 39. They all live in Montreal except Christopher ALMOND who lives in Ville Saint-Laurent.

The organization processed approximately 30 orders of cannabis seeds a day averaging $100 each. The seeds were sent to clients by regular mail.

The seven people are facing 49 charges under the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act and the Criminal Code of Canada. The offences were committed in Quebec, Canada, North America, the United Kingdom and elsewhere in the world between March 12, 1998 and January 31, 2006.

Nine searches were carried out during the week of January 30, 2006 in order to gather evidence that criminal activities had been committed. The searches were conducted in Montreal and Laval, as well as in the residences of three of the accused, a business, three post office boxes, a vehicle and a safe-deposit box.

These searches led to the seizure of 200,000 cannabis seeds, more than $183,362 in US currency and $14,000 in Canadian currency, both in cash and postal money orders, three one-kilogram gold bricks, a Harley-Davidson motorcycle, a Mazda RX8 and many purchase orders. Since the searches were conducted, 272 orders have been intercepted by the police.

The amount of seeds seized during the searches could have made it possible to operate approximately 500 cannabis greenhouses of 400 plants each, which represent 42 million joints sold on the street.

The seven accused are liable to 10 years’ imprisonment. Since the possession of cannabis seeds is illegal under Schedule II of the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act, clients of the network could also receive a visit from the police.

It should be noted that Project "Courriel", a first in Canada, is the fruit of the work of the new Marihuana Grow Operations Enforcement Team. This new drug enforcement team is one of the seven teams established by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police across Canada in 2004 to combat the scourge of marihuana. The main objectives of these teams are to interdict drugs before they arrive in our communities and to target and destroy the infrastructure and the networks used by criminal organizations involved in marihuana production. These organizations constitute a threat to public safety and well-being.
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/qc/comm/2006/fev06/060228a_e.htm
RCMP make cyberbust
Pot seeds sold online; Police operation is first of its kind in Canada

An Internet company that sold marijuana seeds has gone over like a lead zeppelin with the RCMP.

Although Montreal-based Heaven's Stairway has operated brazenly on the Internet since 1998 and is listed on Quebec's business registry, the RCMP announced yesterday they have shut down its operations, located in the basement of a duplex on Marsan St. in Cartierville.

The RCMP described the large-scale bust as the first of its kind in Canada.

The company's owner, Richard Baghdadlian, 38, and six other people have been charged with importing and trafficking in marijuana and conspiracy to do the same.

All the suspects have been released on bail. Baghdadlian's lawyer, Loris Cavaliere, said he has yet to see the evidence gathered in the case.

"It's the first time I've seen a case like this," Cavaliere said.

During the RCMP investigation, the company received 30 orders a day at an average price of $100 each, RCMP Sgt. Andre Potvin said. The company is believed to have purchased its seeds from dealers in British Columbia, Australia, New Zealand and the Netherlands.

Potvin said there is evidence the company sold seeds to customers all over North America and to several foreign countries. The RCMP carried out search warrants and seized more than 200,000 marijuana seeds, enough to supply 500 greenhouses with 400 plants.

The company received orders through its various websites. Customers paid for their seeds by mailing cash or money orders to post office boxes in Montreal.

Potvin said the RCMP had been aware of Heaven's Stairway for years but lacked the resources to pursue the company until a new drug-enforcement team was assembled in 2004.

Marc-Boris St. Maurice, president of the Marijuana Foundation, an organization that seeks to reform marijuana legislation, said the shutdown of Heaven's Stairway was the subject of much discussion in chat rooms and on marijuana-related websites. He said many customers are worried their purchases have left an electronic trace.

"There are about two or three dozen companies operating in Canada that sell seeds either by mail or in stores (including about 10 in Montreal.) They have been functioning pretty much with impunity and no police intervention," St. Maurice said.

"This court case is going to be very important with regards to seeds in Canada.

"The eyes of the international cannabis community are going to be on this very closely."

The RCMP raids and arrests come months after the United States had British Columbia resident Marc Emery arrested on an extradition request. Emery is charged in the U.S. with conspiring to distribute marijuana seeds and launder money.

Reached by phone yesterday, Emery said he was aware of the Heaven's Stairway case. He said he considers his case different because the Montreal company was also giving advice on how to run marijuana grow operations. By comparison, Emery has been very public while pushing for the regulated and licensed sale of marijuana.

"The irony is, if I'm sent to the U.S. and convicted, I'm going to be sent to prison for 30 years for something that is a political issue," Emery said.

"If (Baghdadlian and the co-accused) are convicted here in Canada, they'll do something like six months."

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http://www.canada.com/montrealgazet...=2e65ab33-92e6-43e5-aa05-83a36f96d38f&k=45197
 
Well that certainly sucks monkey balls. All that information was screwed because it entwined with seed operations which are, on a whim, becoming illegal.
 
Some have already taken precautions and went into hiding, others haven't. Some seedbanks also moved house, from America to Europe, some even won't take seeds from American/Canadian breeders in the future anymore, so you might see some strains become less readily available for a while.
 
lmao did they seriously just estimate how many joints they can get out of those plants?!?! Right.....
 
it would be really cool if someone had a backup/archive of the entire site... there was SO much good stuff there, i'd pay for it. anyone know about this being a possibility?
 
It really was a sad sad day the moment OG went down.
Of course this has already been said.. I just had to voice my support, and good luck, towards all the hardcore OG'ers.
Long live the cannabis flower
 
Top right corner, there's a pop-up in front of the file when it's finished uploading.
 
strain guide has pretty much everything, but some of the file names have a * in them, and windows doesn't allow that. still trying to find a way around that
 
March 9th, 2006
Marijuana investigation

Seeds of doubt
Charlie McKenzie, Senior Agricultural Correspondent


Forget Jesus and the loaves and fish, look what the Mounties can do with a bag of pot seeds

Following a 14-month investigation, RCMP officers recently uncovered a Montreal organization selling marijuana seeds via the Internet. Trumpeting their latest victory against "the scourge of marijuana" - their term - the Mounties claim that the amount of seeds seized would fill 500 greenhouses with 400 plants, representing 42 million joints on the street.
That seems comparable to the infamous "angels on the head of a pin" query that has forever plagued scholars and barflies alike. Even with all the CSI toys and tools at their disposal, how could the Mounties possibly calculate the number of joints in a bag of seeds?

Marijuana being an unregulated industry, there's no such thing as a standard-sized joint. Size differs in various regions for various reasons, not the least of which are availability, quality of paper and, of course, level of individual joint-rolling skills.

Vancouver's super-seed salesman Marc Emery - currently fighting extradition to the U.S. where he faces a life sentence for selling marijuana seeds to needy Americans - half a gram is the standard joint in Western Canada. "A lot, though," he added, "depends on the quality."

Eastern Canadians are surprisingly more conservative. "Here they run about a third of a gram," said Montreal's Marc Boris St-Maurice, founder and former leader of the federal Marijuana Party, now with NORML Canada.

"But that," he noted, "can fluctuate according to circumstance."

Scientists and horticulturalists agree, in a manner of speaking...

"The
RCMP's yield prediction was probably based on average yields for a typical marijuana plant," explained David Wees, horticulturalist and faculty lecturer at McGill's Macdonald campus, but he questions the accuracy of their method. "It's possible the seed won't germinate, in which case the yield is zero; or the seed germinates but the plant dies; or the seed germinates and grows 'normally' but because of factors such as heat, light, water or soil fertility, the yield is lower - or higher - than expected."

His colleague, Dr. Suha Jabaji-Harem, Associate Dean of Research for Agricultural and Environmental Sciences, readily concurred.

"It would be extremely difficult," he said. "The age, health and storage conditions of the seeds would have to be considered, and for maximum yield, growing conditions have to be perfect so the plant is not under stress."

Being illegal probably qualifies as being under stress, and - despite being one of our largest agro-industries - lack of regulation confines cannabis cultivation to somewhat substandard conditions. But when asked if one could really tell how much a single seed would yield, research scientist Daniel C.W. Brown, of London, Ontario's Southern Crop Protection and Food Research Centre, was very clear:

"Yes and no," he said.

"Generally, a larger seed is an indication of a better developed, more mature seed which should have stronger growth potential. But many factors could impact on the yield of the plant, e.g., genetic potential, nutrition, environment, disease and pest resistance, water availability, etc."

Julie Plamondon, media relations officer with Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada, had the final word, and unfortunately for our beloved Mounties it puts their claim of 42 million joints in serious doubt, challenging their credibility.

"No," she stated emphatically. "It is not possible to determine plant yield simply by examining seeds, either by the naked eye or with a microscope."

She did, however, thank us for our interest in agriculture.
http://www.hour.ca/news/news.aspx?iIDArticle=8585
 
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