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Anyone have thoughts on Seroquel?

Retrodat said:
co-sign.

Seroquel is amazing for sleep, there is no doubt about it. But it gave me severe anxiety issues that i am still trying to deal with today. It will fuck your mind up, it's an anti psychotic for a reason. It gave me this weird paranoid feeling too, and i aint scared of shit lol
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I've heard of quite a few people who've had similar reactions from Seroquel. Restlessness, anxiety, etc.

Luckily I haven't had any of those... it just sedates me.
 
etherbunny said:
It also has one hell of a WD if you quit cold turkey after taking high doses for a year, but nothing compaired to benzo withdrawals, which I am experiencing now.
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Could you recommend what would be the best way to come of Seroquil? How long would you want to taper down for.

I've found, and there is a general consensus that it is a very sedating drug, especially at the larger doses prescribed for mental health issues. Makes sense seeing that 25mg tablets are prescribed as an off label sleep aid, and some people are prescribed the 200mg tablets for their mental heath problems.
 
Klue said:
Could you recommend what would be the best way to come of Seroquil? How long would you want to taper down for.

I've found, and there is a general consensus that it is a very sedating drug, especially at the larger doses prescribed for mental health issues. Makes sense seeing that 25mg tablets are prescribed as an off label sleep aid, and some people are prescribed the 200mg tablets for their mental heath problems.
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**Short Answer**

For 25mg even with daily use for months, I'd say up to 18 months, a simple on and off taper would be effective, you will just need to anticipate rebound symptoms of whatever you were taking it for.

**Non Abuse and no underlying mental health disorder**

If taking it for sleep, expect rebound insomnia and agitation, a general feeling of uneasiness for a few days. Those symptoms should subside after 7 - 10 days with no major disruptions to your daily life. Some things that can make things easier would be Melatonin 3mg, 450mg Valerian root capsules (stay away from the 'Combo' bottle, try to find just Valerian root), I always recommend a Amino 2222 supplement (it provides all Essential and Non Essential Amino acids which will help with the daytime symptoms). But just simply taking 25mg seroquel every other day for 5 days then a last 25mg at the 7th day is enough to skip most WD symptoms.


If you take seroquel nightly at 75 - 100 mg then I would do a taper back to the lowest dose available, cut down to 50 right away. Supplement with Omega - 3, you can use Valerian Root to assist with the rebound insomnia. I would not recommend using 5-HTP, any dopamine mimicking or any hypnotic drugs (outside of a standard dose of Ambien if you just have to). I prefer Rozerem and a small Melatonin (3mg max) supplement to help restore a natural sleep cycle. A good Amino Acid supplement like Amino 2222 will help with the daytime WD effects of seroquel, it provides all essential and non essential Amino Acids. Taper down from 100 to 50 right away, then follow a standard dosage reduction schedule to bring you from 50 to 0 over 7 days, while taking the above recommended supplements.

**Non Abuse, with underlying Mental Health Disorder**

If your on 200 - 300 mg of seroquel as needed for a legitimate mental health disorder then you will need to do some preloading to prepare for the change in brain chemistry as you withdraw from seroquel. Use the 75 - 100 mg plan, just preload Amino acids 1 week prior to your taper date and extend the taper to a 2 week timeframe. Using Rozerem and Melatonin is very effective once you taper down below 100 mg (most notably when you get down to 50 mg) as you should be experiencing rebound insomnia and possible acute depression/anxiety issues. This is where Omega - 3 and Amino 2222 really shine, Valerian Root taken during the day will help with the agitation caused by your rebound anxiety. If Depression is your rebound symptom then Vitamin B Complex, especially B12 sublingal or Liquid form can help give you a natural 'up' feeling, also spending atleast 20 - 30 min outside in direct sunlight can help. At this point your trying to alleviate the discomfort caused by your brain chemistry changing. Seroquel is very efficient at binding to the D(1,2,3,4) up to 90% efficiency I believe receptors and allowing your body to readjust naturally over a 2 - 3 week period is one of the most beneficial methods of 'detox' in the long run.

Just remember, neither Opiates or Benzos are helpful with tapering off seroquel, you will just end up causing cross addiction and the 'helping' effect you are recieving is just a 'brain placebo' especially opiates. This will only help mimic the dopamine surges seroquel is known to produce (one of it's mechanisms of action). Benzo's are not a good idea either as seroquel is already classified as a major tranqualizer and if you are tapering from a high dose (200-250mg+) you risk significant CNS depression.

But on the flip side, if you are trying to WD from Opiates and do not take serquel there are studies out there that suggest it MAY be effective at minimizing WD effects.


And yes, this was the **Short Version** I had to rewrite my post twice because the first 2 were LONG, that and I just drank some 12g Kratom tea I had leftover from the other night and I was going into MUCH more detail than I already have.

Hope this helps anyone out there looking to get off seroquel. I quit CT at around 400mg daily, but not before themilitary made me 'taper' from 400 to 25 over a 3 day weekend, not fun, but I survived.

One last note, if you are taking Seroquel for a mental health disorder and need to be on an Atypical Anti-Psychotic Zyprexa (Olanzapine) is a popular and effective alternative to Seroquel. It is not nearly as sedating as seroquel and has more manageable side effects. But it does have 1 interesting side effect; akathisia, the inability to remain still. I experienced that and it was a double edge side effect, in a way it was kinda fun, but scary at the same time.


Peace and love

Etherbunny
 
Oh yeah I forgot to mention, around here Seroquel is very very popular in the county jails for whatever reason...
 
thelung said:
Oh yeah I forgot to mention, around here Seroquel is very very popular in the county jails for whatever reason...
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Of course it is, you can heavily tranquilize an inmate for extended periods of time, making them docile and susceptible to 'rehabilitation'. Personally I'd prefer they use Thorazine, it's more cost effective.
 
my weight issues on seroquel, was all about diet...

i started at 180, bulk dieted to 220, ketosis to 170, bulked to 190, regular diet to 175....

yeah

at 300 mg a night,
and honestly I dont think that I could have gotten through the dieting without the seroquel there to knock me out
 
Askeladden said:
my weight issues on seroquel, was all about diet...

i started at 180, bulk dieted to 220, ketosis to 170, bulked to 190, regular diet to 175....

yeah

at 300 mg a night,
and honestly I dont think that I could have gotten through the dieting without the seroquel there to knock me out
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Well, seroquel is known to increase appetite and cause wait gain, also 300mg is a pretty high dose for sleep. 50mg is about the median for sleep, 100mg being the max; atleast according to my old military head shrinker. He's the one who helped me come down from 400mg back to 100mg.

Something I forgot to mention earlier in my post about tapering, when I was tapering in the military I was put on depekote 250mg for a month, then zoloft max dose until I was comfortable with being on 100mg. Just some more food for thought.

We have totally gotten off topic on this thread, lol. This forum looks like a good match for me. On my last forum site I seemed to be a thread killer, I did a look up on all my posts and usually after I posted the thread died 2-3 posts later. No one was willing to continue any form of dialog that wasn't exactly how they wanted the posts to go.

I like it here. Hope to be around for awhile and really hoping to give and get some good information.

So back to the OP: Did you get the answer to your question from all of this? I can talk prescriptions all day, especially mental health medications, I've been on sooo many.

Peace and love,

Etherbunny
 
Sean McDevitt said:
i started taking this today. to help me sleep. good? bad?
im taking 25mg.
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ive been on seroqel for years now its a well good antysphychotic and very usefull for sleep around 150mgs at night your dose is the starting dose i presume at 25 mgs in small does it can also help with anxiety and o c d one troublesome side effect though is weight gain but not at the dose your on at the moment morelikly when and if you go above100mgs a dose through out the day im not sure what the maxiumum dose is a day i think its 800 mgs so usally you start on 25 then build from there i hope ive helped
 
It knocks you out like *that* before you even realise what's happening, before you're even ready to go to bed, you might not even make it to bed, make sure you have a working smoke alarm coz it knocked me out once with all the appliances still on including the STOVE. It made me sleep for very long hours too and I had a way bigger appetite. And you build a dependence, so after a few days it's really hard to get to sleep without it, but doesn't take long to go back to normal.
 
^ Seroquel isn't that powerful to me, and I'm on 100mg's a night.

Haloperidol on the other hand... 10mg's of that will have me flat on the floor.
 
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