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anyone else?

Some medical studies suggest that full recovery is possible, some suggest some of the damage is non reversable.

I think in reality its probably a mixture of the two.

Likely you will recover from the longterm comedown and start to be able to feel normal again thats the important thing. Once you feel normal then any issues with memory, prefrontal cortex etc will likely go unnoticed.

When I recovered from my first comedown I think I was still a bit affected from it all but the main thing was I slept again, I felt happy and was able to live a normal life. I probably did have some memory issues and was a bit skatty but that didnt bother me.

This current comedown I hope will go at some point but I suspect I will still be scarred from it. As to how much it is very difficult to know at this point.

I think your previous history, type of drug use, age, lifestyle etc will all have an influence on how much aftermath is left once you recover.
 
yeah, sometimes I feel happy with no anxiety, and other times I just feel massive anxiety that I can't shrug off... for no reason it seems like. It doesn't seem like I am very depressed often, which is odd. I think it's more like, sometimes i can be happy, other times I am numb, and then last the feeling of anxiety/dread. It's a whole spectrum of weird feelings right now.

I have constant DP/DR that makes everything look weird like i'm in a dream, but that ALSO fluctuates between "barely noticable" and "IS DIS REAL LIFE?"


I think I will be alright, even though sometimes I lose hope and think "I've been like this for 5 months with barely any changes, how can I recover?", I think since I can still feel happiness and no anxiety at times means I will be alright.

It's weird though, my 8==> doesn't work well anymore :(
 
yeah, sometimes I feel happy with no anxiety, and other times I just feel massive anxiety that I can't shrug off... for no reason it seems like. It doesn't seem like I am very depressed often, which is odd. I think it's more like, sometimes i can be happy, other times I am numb, and then last the feeling of anxiety/dread. It's a whole spectrum of weird feelings right now.

The fact that it is in and out is a good sign. Eventually the happier feelings will become the majority.

I have constant DP/DR that makes everything look weird like i'm in a dream, but that ALSO fluctuates between "barely noticable" and "IS DIS REAL LIFE?"

Im just in the process of uploading some DP/DR tutorial videos that are very informative about this disorder. The videos are also a program about howto get over it so I will post once everything is uploaded.

I think I will be alright, even though sometimes I lose hope and think "I've been like this for 5 months with barely any changes, how can I recover?", I think since I can still feel happiness and no anxiety at times means I will be alright.

It's weird though, my 8==> doesn't work well anymore

My first recovery came after 6 months. The actual onset of recovery came on quite quickly so definitely dont give up. I found once my anxiety faded and I was able to sleep everything else dissappeard and I very quickly felt normal again.
 
yeah, sometimes I feel happy with no anxiety, and other times I just feel massive anxiety that I can't shrug off... for no han it seems like. It doesn't see. like I am very depressed often, which is odd. I think it's more like, sometimes i can be happy, other times I am numb, and then last the feeling of anxiety/dread. It's a whole spectrum of weird feelings right now.

I have constant DP/DR that makes everything look weird like i'm in a dream, but that ALSO fluctuates between "barely noticable" and "IS DIS REAL LIFE?"


I think I will be alright, even though sometimes I lose hope and think "I've been like this for 5 months with barely any changes, how can I recover?", I think since I can still feel happiness and no anxiety at times means I will be alright.

It's weird though, my 8==> doesn't work well anymore :(

I feel exactly the same way you do. Except my happiness is just the short while I get big anxiety. I'm not sure I would exactly call it being happy. do you have a terrible brain fog as well?
 
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yeah brain fog, DP/DR, my head is not clear man. Like I know where I am... but it's not in focus, I can't truly grasp it. Yeah I wouldn't call it "happy" either but more like I can talk about and feel excited for something (soccer, my example) and laugh at things that are rlly funny.

Which is like being happy, no?
 
So futura, if you have low serotonin as a result from MDMA use... can your serotonin fix itself with time? Or is the serotonin system permanently fucked?

Serotonin takes 3-4 weeks to recover and rewire back to normal, any longer comedowns is due to you living a poor unhealthy lifestyle and overthinking and feeding your own anxiety. Yes I've had a 2 months long comedown, guess what I was doing? Isolating myself in my room, getting poor sleep, not taking fresh air, thinking poping some 5HTP would do it's magic and thinking negative. I've had a another bad comedown in april, this time it lasted 3 weeks, lots of antixydants on comedown, thinking positive that I'll recover fast, taking long nice walks in the full sunshine, doing tricks to relax, eating healthy, LOTS of fresh water and taking Multi-vitamin B.
 
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Serotonin takes 3-4 weeks to recover and rewire back to normal, any longer comedowns is due to you living a poor unhealthy lifestyle and overthinking and feeding your own anxiety.

There are plenty of medical studies out there that prove this is just total nonsense.

What a total arrogance to assume everyone with a long term comedown over 4 weeks is living an unhealthy lifestyle and overthinking.
 
Yes I've had a 2 months long comedown, guess what I was doing? Isolating myself in my room, getting poor sleep, not taking fresh air, thinking poping some 5HTP would do it's magic and thinking negative. I've had a another bad comedown in april, this time it lasted 3 weeks, lots of antixydants on comedown, thinking positive that I'll recover fast, taking long nice walks in the full sunshine, doing tricks to relax, eating healthy, LOTS of fresh water and taking Multi-vitamin B.

All your thoughts and ideas seem to be just based on your own isolated experiences. Does no one else in your world exist other than yourself?

Just because this is what happened to YOU doesnt write the rules for everyone else.

Positive thinking helps for sure but I dont think it is quite the miracle cure you make it out to be. Many of the people suffering from MDMA related comedowns are totally wrecked by it and just saying comments like "stop over thinking and feeding your anxiety" doesnt really help anyone.
 
All your thoughts and ideas seem to be just based on your own isolated experiences. Does no one else in your world exist other than yourself?

Just because this is what happened to YOU doesnt write the rules for everyone else.

Positive thinking helps for sure but I dont think it is quite the miracle cure you make it out to be. Many of the people suffering from MDMA related comedowns are totally wrecked by it and just saying comments like "stop over thinking and feeding your anxiety" doesnt really help anyone.

It's all about being stronger than the chemical unbalance in your brain, the point was that if you believe you'll recover fast, you WILL recover faster. If you keep thinking "Awh mayne, I feel like sh!t, I'm worth nothing, it's hopeless" well that won't help. Me and a friend came to realize this, my friend used to be a BIG time crack/cocaine addict, he smoked pretty much all kinds of the most addictive drugs, along with opiate abuse and other stuff, he quitted everything cold turkey and never had w/d or depression because he never believed in depression/anxiety in the first place. It's hard to explain, I just guess some people have "brain weakness" like this guy and probably you too. I didn't meant to sound like an ass, but if you suffer for more than 4weeks (or more than 8-10weeks with bad health/negative thinking), then there's something wrong with yourself, don't blame it on the drug when your serotonins are back to normal and you still feel weird. There's forums and psychiatrists specialized in anxiety treatment and such. I just think most people are blaming every symptom they have on MDMA when in reality, the problem might be comming from elsewhere... a 2 years comedown... well I'm sorry Johnny, but that's not directly MDMA's fault.
 
you are an unbelievable ass. can you just leave already?

what are you, some sort of ALL-knowing brain scientist who has to tell other people they are weak?

fuck you, man.
 
First of all, if your keep mindfuckin yourself with depressed thoughts you will get depressed. So keepin positive will definately help. But it's hard to stay positive if your having those painfull symptoms. I think if you use MDMA, your messin with somethin you never want to mess with especially because no-one knows what it eventually will do to you. On the other hand I know some people who used like 500+ pills in their life and are still goin skyhigh sometimes. I explained them my symptoms but they were unfamiliar with this. So I think some are sensitive for this shit.

Anyways MDMA fucks me up bad. When I started 2 years ago I nearly experienced harsh comedowns. And now if I do like 100mg Im having the craziest anxiety/depression symptoms even if i have like 4 months of no-use in between which is strange.
 
I can only assume you are bored and trolling but I will give it the benefit of the doubt and answer you.

It's all about being stronger than the chemical unbalance in your brain, the point was that if you believe you'll recover fast, you WILL recover faster. If you keep thinking "Awh mayne, I feel like sh!t, I'm worth nothing, it's hopeless" well that won't help.

Sure it wont help but if you are suffering from major anxiety and depression then not feeling the hopeless thoughts can be for some people very difficult. Positive thinking helps for sure but this is not the instant cure to anxiety you seem to think it is. This is a very over simplistic and naive view you seem to have about it.

Its a combination of things including healthy lifestyle, time, therapy, meditation, yoga, fitness, diet, supliments, social interactions a whole range of things that hopefully over time will lead to someones recovery. The brain takes an awful long time to heal as can be seen from major head traumas, stroke victims etc.

Me and a friend came to realize this, my friend used to be a BIG time crack/cocaine addict, he smoked pretty much all kinds of the most addictive drugs, along with opiate abuse and other stuff, he quitted everything cold turkey and never had w/d or depression because he never believed in depression/anxiety in the first place.

Well I suppose at least you are now basing your conclusions from two people rather than one at least thats a move in the right direction. Do you really think that the reason someone doesnt suffer from anxiety and depression is because they dont beleive they will??

Wow ive heard some theories but this is virging on bizarre. What about the idea that some people might be less susceptable than others. Just cause your friend took crack and opiates isnt a guaranteed formula for anxiety and depression.

It's hard to explain, I just guess some people have "brain weakness" like this guy and probably you too.

I can understand everything you are saying loud and clear. (unfortunately!)

So your now saying I have a weak brain because I am suffering from anxiety. Wow you really are making a fool of yourself here ill give you that.

I didn't meant to sound like an ass, but if you suffer for more than 4weeks (or more than 8-10weeks with bad health/negative thinking), then there's something wrong with yourself, don't blame it on the drug when your serotonins are back to normal and you still feel weird.

Well by saying this you certainly are making as ass of yourself for sure.

There are medical reports out there that suggest the 5HT system does not return to normal after injesting MDMA after 4-10 weeks as you suggest so I have no idea where you have got this idea from?

Seems like you are on a crusade here to defend MDMA suggesting that it couldnt possibley be neurotoxic or harmful in anyway. There must be something wrong with the person rather than the drugs at fault why do you think the person is in this mess in the first place.

Its quite interesting really because anyone reading this will see you dont have a clue about what your on about and in your attempts to glorify MDMA you are just confirming that your information is just total nonsense.

There's forums and psychiatrists specialized in anxiety treatment and such. I just think most people are blaming every symptom they have on MDMA when in reality, the problem might be comming from elsewhere... a 2 years comedown... well I'm sorry Johnny, but that's not directly MDMA's fault.

If it werent for the drugs then people wouldnt be in this mess. In some cases MDMA isnt the route cause in some cases it is. MDMA is neurotoxic and can fuck people up really badly. Accepted if you follow the HR rules then the chances of this are greatly reduced but some people are still at risk from complications.

Some people on this forum have suffered for 6 months, sometimes several years it just depends.

Why you think MDMA is immune from this I have no idea but by insulting sufferers in this way all you are doing is making a complete dick of yourself nothing more.

If you want to quote some medical evidence or make a valid argument then go ahead but so far nothing you have said has any valid argument what so ever.
 
lets try this one more time

really need some help here guys.
i keep asking the same thing,but no ones
gets what im realy trying to say. :/

so heres the thing. i have anxiety issue
but i only get it. when i take some sort of
stimulant that trigers it.such as coffee
energy drinks or prework outs.
so im curious to know if taking mdma
will do the same? edc is coming up. and want
to enjoy it with the company of molly
but not if its going to make my anxietty worse.
so ANYONE out there that has anxietty and take
mdma would you say its ok or bad idea? and
how would you discribe it? any input on this
experience helps thanks :)
 
MDMA is known for breaking down all kinds of anxiety (social, personal, emotional, ect) and helping to eliminate inhibitions. I have numerous friends with all kinds of anxiety issues, and none of them get it on MDMA.

This is a thread that talks about MDMA anxiety (or lack there of)
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/670810-what-MDMA-anxiety-is-like-compare-to-anxiety-from-weed

Please please do not take any molly or press in las vegas without testing it with a reagent test kit from dancesafe.org. Without testing you can not be sure that your product is MDMA, and not another stimulant (which would probably cause anxiety).They only take 2-3 days to reach your door after ordering.
 
You asked this question before.. we can't answer it.


Could it make it worse? Yes, absolutely. Could you be 100% fine and have the best night of your life? Yeah, totally possible too. The only way to know is to try it.




But yeah, DO NOT take any random "molly" or pills. The majority of the time it will be some random bath salt type stimulant
 
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