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Anyone else WAKE UP depressed but changes completely later on?

kanyeknievel

kanyeknievel

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This whole depressive type state I've been in seems just odd.. I have felt this before and it seems I have SAD, but I am not sure.

Anyways... I don't understand WHY this is.. but today at least and most days, not all, I wake up and don't want to get up and I just feel depressed, I feel like I'm sorta suffering and it just is terrible thinking that way and feeling that way. Thoughts of how can I live with this suffering , I DO have thoughts of killing myself but it is something I WOULD never do and it isn't serious thoughts, they are very scary though and I don't want to have them.

It is all in the morning/waking up , it always goes away after about an hour or less of being awake.

I don't know if it is because I need to take my Klonopin, and Adderall and when those (along with the vitamins, fish oil, and etc. I take in the morning ) and Kratom I take since I got off of 2mg of suboxone almost 2 months ago .

I don't know if I REALLY do feel this way and the Kratom, Klonopin, ADderall needs to be in my system and I am feeling in the state of withdrawal (since I take the klonopin sparingly, and adderall.. but I take it each day) and when I take those and get the Kratom, meds, coffee, etc. I am out of that withdrawalish state?

Or is it just from my sleeping schedule and not being able to sleep or is it part both of meds and recent events?


It seriously is just so scary and terrible to have those feelings when I wake ups and those thoughts.. something I would never do and could never do, but I don't' want to think that at all.. I shouldn't think it at all.. it's scary.


But does anyone else feel this way when waking up and it goes away after about an hour or less?
 
It seems like the most likely culprit is the drugs.

I feel the same way most days, not as many dark thoughts maybe but just depression and inability to get out of bed. It's made worse on days I've been using them droogs, mainly opiates and benzos.

Congrats on getting off subs though. Maybe try lowering your doses or kicking one thing at at time (if you decide benzos then be sure to taper) and see if it helps.
 
I was watching this BBC Documentary on dreams and it explained how sometimes when we wake up we get negative emotions. Apparently it happens in the Amygdala, the part of the brain that controls emotions. In the documentary it mentioned that often when you get a negative dream and immediately wake up, you end up having a negative disposition.
Maybe your system or general events during the day just help taper off the negativity from when you woke up? Anyway, here's the link for the docu if you're interested :)

watch?v=ElxzZXc0VPE
 
i wake up in the morning and feel really depressed and im at a lost for what to do with myself when i wake up. i just look around my room and sigh...but when i actually get oout of the house and walk around and do things my mood changes ten fold and im singing and whistling

morning = mourning
 
Whacked_Out said:
I was watching this BBC Documentary on dreams and it explained how sometimes when we wake up we get negative emotions. Apparently it happens in the Amygdala, the part of the brain that controls emotions. In the documentary it mentioned that often when you get a negative dream and immediately wake up, you end up having a negative disposition.
Maybe your system or general events during the day just help taper off the negativity from when you woke up? Anyway, here's the link for the docu if you're interested :)

watch?v=ElxzZXc0VPE
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Wow. I assumed the reason for feeling shit in the mornings sometimes might have to do with dreams -- I thought if you're in a bad situation, you'll have bad dreams, and then those emotions will be in your mind when you wake up. I didn't realize it could create a cycle though, causing you to have another bad day or a "negative disposition" like you said.
 
I used to get this effect soooo nasty a few years ago. It may have been the weed, but then again I smoked weed for almost 5 years and it only happened for 1 of those years. For maybe an hour, hour and a half after waking up it was like kicking coke or something, just absolute despair and hopeless sadness, very unpleasant, glad it stopped, though it seemed to just stop by itself...?

It's absolutely horrible, almost as bad as waking up dope-sick with no dope.

Good luck
 
This might be TMI but I never tire of sharing knowledge. :)

It could be the drugs, but a lot of people experience morning depression even without drugs in their bodies. The brain wave frequencies of sleep are all slower than that of being conscious. In order to be awake your brain needs to increase its frequency to 14-30Hz (called beta waves). If your system is depressed, then rising to the higher frequency can be challenging, and it's why depressed people sleep a lot - it's easier for the depressed brain to maintain a lower frequency than a higher one. I would blame the drugs if it's possible that they could be artificially depressing your system.

The other problem with drugs is that they disrupt the normal phases of sleep. People who take sleep aids report a variety of alertness issues. Some people report that they dream a lot on sleep aids, which would mean they are getting the alpha and theta wave sleep, but not delta (deep sleep), so they wake up feeling unrested. On the flipside, some people say they sleep too deeply (more delta wave sleep) and dream less, so when they wake up they feel groggy all day. (Dreaming, by the way, happens in the alpha wave state.)

brain-wave-frequency.jpg


OP, what you describe sounds like you are sleeping too deeply. If drugs aren't the problem, then what you can try doing is setting your alarm at night to go off every 90 minutes. 90 minutes is the standard time it takes for the brain to cycle through all 4 wave types, and by waking yourself up periodically it creates breaks in the deep sleep so that you don't stay stuck there and end up groggy in the morning. If you end up having more dreams (alpha wave sleep) and alertness in the morning, it means it worked.

Just make sure your alarm isn't super loud and shocking. You want it to just gently disturb your sleep enough that you roll over, reset it, and then go back to sleep.
 
Foreigner said:
OP, what you describe sounds like you are sleeping too deeply. If drugs aren't the problem, then what you can try doing is setting your alarm at night to go off every 90 minutes. 90 minutes is the standard time it takes for the brain to cycle through all 4 wave types, and by waking yourself up periodically it creates breaks in the deep sleep so that you don't stay stuck there and end up groggy in the morning. If you end up having more dreams (alpha wave sleep) and alertness in the morning, it means it worked.

Just make sure your alarm isn't super loud and shocking. You want it to just gently disturb your sleep enough that you roll over, reset it, and then go back to sleep.
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I appreciate you for sharing this info. I've been sleeping in the delta state a while and it's made me dull waking up every morning. I'm going to try this method to see if I can get lucid dreaming back into my life :)
 
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