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Anyone else? Suboxone sublingual severe body pain?

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Oh it was the absolute worst! I was probably 8-10, and I remember running through the house away from my mum as she chased me around w/ a cup full of the stuff...

My youth was interesting on many levels hahahah
 
Pjkt2501 said:
Oh lord, get a new doctor. Suboxone is for SHORT TERM use. Yikes. I tapered in 5 days from 60mg/day oxy habit down to nothing...
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I've NEVER heard of a maintenance program being only over a 5 day period. When I went on suboxone the plan was a year minimum, but I just chose to get off it as I hated daily dosing at the clinic.
 
Sorry, not maintenance, but tapering off from a dope / whatever habit. It took me 3-3.5mg TOTAL to get off of ~75mg oxycodone per day.

I haven't gone through an actual program, but a year? All of the long term information that I've read by people posting online is that there are worse side effects by that point than there is a benefit to being on it still. Then again, who says the doctors / mfg want you off of it anyway. State run addiction anyone?
 
I think the idea is that they are happier with you being on that than being a long-term heroin addict/dead.

Yeah you can definitely taper with very little bupe. I should have read the whole thread.
 
So today I went with no sub and surprisingly my only symptoms is restless painful legs and a rage from hell. I have been super bitchy, more hateful really. Terrible mental state I am in.... I am going to take just 2 mg tomorrow and hopefully I won't taste it to bad.....
 
KAYLA2010 said:
So today I went with no sub and surprisingly my only symptoms is restless painful legs and a rage from hell. I have been super bitchy, more hateful really. Terrible mental state I am in.... I am going to take just 2 mg tomorrow and hopefully I won't taste it to bad.....
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It gets easier after a while, promise! <3

That's what I hated most about opiate (ab)use when I was a couple years younger - I turned into a real asshole as a result of my use.. :\
 
I am now feeling w d a lot more now... It's sort of bad and it's only day one I guess taking 24 mg for three moths kicks your ass..

Terrible feeling. I feel like shit I can't even get out of my bed now... My RLS is now all over my body. The pain moved up my legs and now even m fingers are in pain...

Fucking sub I hate it.. But the brighter side is my mind is clearing up. I feel like the bitchiness is not do bad and I am getting my feelings back. I cel like I have been in a mental Cloud or daze... Major difference off of sub.. Even though it's only been a little over 24 hours since last dose. :)

Can't wait till friday I get y Xanax and I can w d with that... Sleep through this coming week..

I'm not counting my Xanax as a relapse.. I'm only taking higher dose to get over the w d from sub. ( is that bad)

Anyways thats my plan to get my own mind back :)
 
I wouldn't even take higher doses of the xanax - it's pretty short acting so instead I'd be popping them in lower doses but more frequently. If you could get something like clonazepam or diazepam, they're very long lasting, and have less abuse potential than xanax due to not being so "noticeable", so to say. They're there working, but you can't really FEEL something, just don't feel it.

Have you stopped taking the subs all together, or continuing to taper down?

Good plan :)
 
I stopped taking them but I couldn't handle this morning. I freaking cracked and took about 2 mg. I'm so pissed at myself I really thought I could don't but the pain and mental anguish is unbearable... I would literally be in a fucking metal hospital again.....fuck that.

Also I was not expecting the physical pain to be so bad off of subs. Omg am I surprised this is fucking ridiculous. It doesn't compare to heroin but still it fuckin sucks. It took me hours to get out of bed to get in te bath. Ten I didn't sleep all night because of all over body pain. I'm stiff I look like a walking robot...

My dumb ass doctor only gives Xanax with his subs... I have been on 3mg of Xanax a day for six months. Until three weeks ago I had to quit cold turkey because some one stole them. (mother) anyways my next app is on Friday morning I am struggling

With something different now- I want to take half my Xanax bottle when I get it because I feel like shit!! So now I'm thinking I should go ahead and not get it from te doctor..

Very hard decision....
 
I and I hate other GABA acting meds they suck cause I can't feel them like you said lol

Except baclofen and alcohol :)- those in sure work with GABA b and Xanax is GABA a right? Pretty sure that right :)
 
Don't stress over having to take the 2mg, it's fine. You're coming off of a very high dose (16mg/day), so it's not going to happen overnight, or be easy. You'll get through it though!

Have you started calling around looking for another doctor? Just because you have an appt. coming up doesn't mean you can't start looking for someone who's a better fit. I find it very strange that he ONLY Rx's Xanax... It's one of the "worst" in terms of abuse potential. I'm getting the vibes that he wants to keep you an addict, but to his product instead...

Baclofen just puts me to sleep haha. First night I got 'em I took 60mg total (30 initially, then 10mg more at a time every 30 min or so), fell asleep at 730pm (dec 30 '11), and woke up at 930am the next day... I didn't get the molly I planned to get for NYE as a result LOL.
 
I am lookin for another doctor.. It's just that there aren't any where I live... I am in the good part of Houston.. And I have to drive at least 45 minutes away to go to a doctor and I don't want one thats to shitty..

I have def been thinking this doctor is trying to keep me as a patient. So he has me sedated.

I am going to get back on the baclofen.. I wrote an entire thread about baclofen a couple years ago lol
It was before I took it myself to.... I am going to go reread it it's in add.... I wonder how off I was...

Thanks for the courage.. I'm working in it. I feel like a failure by giving up but I blame it on the high dose..
 
You haven't given up! It's all a part of the process. Like I said, things worth getting don't come instantly. :)

The doc sees "addict" and is trying to wring you for all you're worth - and your insurance co...

What did the baclofen do for you? Just curious. It is indeed active on GABA-b, which is why I agree w/ my doc to keep me on it. :p
 
It worked great. I loved it. I felt happy on it and sort of clouded..

I also had really bad twitching..

I think I told you, but I was in rehab last February and they had me on baclofen.

U was in the dinning room and a guy was in front of me and my arms twitched so bad I dumped my while tray on the back of te guy including a whole think of milk.. Whoops.....:) I was aloud 60 mg every four hours and I was on time every time... It reminded me of a mild soma and since that was all I had I took advantage of it...

The doctor told me since I have a range of addiction that I can only have baclofen, wasn't even aloud suboxone....uh I within could show that doctor how different I am now :) he wouldn't believe it. I didn't want help yet so you can just imagine how defiant I was.. Me and a few others addicted to IC an Heroin were always sneaking out and never going to class.. I wasted 20000 in insurance money.

I regret these actions so bad, but I was very high in there. I was abusing th baclofen at the end of my stay.. Saving them bad choice...

I eventually pretended I was a danger to myself So I would be released to a hospital and could leave from there. Another very bad choice.. They won't let me back there now.....teu won't even let me go to meetings there because my behavior was out of control. I blame the doctor... And bein pressured when I wasn't ready.

But there was the upside to that experience that I am thankful for. I was able to stry my process of recovery. I was able to learn that what I was doing was out of control....I almost lost everything I loved and I realized after getting out and getting back on drugs that, that place saved my life. It I hadn't experienced it I would have never wanted to get clean and would not be where I am today.

I would probably e in some really junky apartment in houston with all y heroin junky friends... Gross!!! It was discussing there I was always cleaning after people's needles and spoons and pills and coke mirrors.. Instead of vacuuming we would search the carpet for lost pills. I hated myself. I am so lucky I never contracted anything that would kill me.. I never even got staph.. I'm fuckin lucky as hell...
 
It's funny now because when people see y picture or meet me they always say "what the fuck" lmao

I was always old I didn't fit in... Story of my life..
 
Haha, who the hell fits in anyway?

Oh right... normals / bros - lie about how ya feel and talk about the weather..

(Pass, thank ya!)

Life is a series of lessons, and unfortunately nothing is learned without some form of loss (so I've been noticing...).

And you are very lucky! To not only be out of that situation, but to have a better outlook on life to where you want to fix your past mistakes and better yourself! That's the best part. :)
 
Oh, you you're actually interesting to hold a conversation with? hehehe, I'm kidding (given that I already knew that anyhow :p)

Have you ever heard of or read the book "Remember, Be Here Now" by Baba Ram Daas? It's absolutely beautiful / wonderful, and was actually a very major influence (well, along with psychedelic usage hahaha ahh I love LSD <3) in my growing spirituality. A year or two ago I would have gawked at tarot cards - last week I had mine read and it blew my mind quite a bit. Spot frickin' on. So impressive. And I had a reiki master doing his thing on me, and it was the most relaxing thing ever,
 
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