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Anyone else out there who doesn't react well to RC's?

^ I agree, it seems he and his group had a hard, preset attitude that "these RCs are crap and we ARE going to hate them"... and so they hated them. I mean how could an entire "group" of people ALL hate every one of a varied set of RC experiences? Either his group had a stongly bigoted bias against them, which WILL STRONGLY affect the resulting experience, or else the place/person they got these RCs from was taking them for a ride and gave them various crap mixed with amphetamines of some kind or who knows what. It seems unlikely that everyone in a large group all hated everything. Something was flawed with the experiments, or you all just have fucked up attitudes and were determined to "prove" to yourselves or others the superiority of your previously favorite substances or something like that.
 
"RC" is not a category of chemical compound.

Its a random collection.

And there are some true gems hidden in that collection, no doubt.
 
DwayneHoover said:
^ I agree, it seems he and his group had a hard, preset attitude that "these RCs are crap and we ARE going to hate them"... and so they hated them. I mean how could an entire "group" of people ALL hate every one of a varied set of RC experiences? Either his group had a stongly bigoted bias against them, which WILL STRONGLY affect the resulting experience, or else the place/person they got these RCs from was taking them for a ride and gave them various crap mixed with amphetamines of some kind or who knows what. It seems unlikely that everyone in a large group all hated everything. Something was flawed with the experiments, or you all just have fucked up attitudes and were determined to "prove" to yourselves or others the superiority of your previously favorite substances or something like that.
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Did you even read what I wrote?
Small group, all liked 4-aco dmt except me, one loved it and said he had the time of his life. Still, only the guy who loved it asked me for more. The other ones including me thought LSD or shrooms were much better.
All said 2c-x's were nothing to be remembered.
No one had pre conceived notions about these RC's. If anything I was scared of the 2c-e being too strong and lose control.
All compounds were legit, came from that big supplier who recently closed doors.

And again, even though I have a high natural tolerance I can see the potential of 4-aco-dmt, but I definitely cannot say a single good word about the 2c-x's.


Anyway, thanks for everyone's help. It seems my body doesn't react that well to these substances.
Probably will try one more: DPT, from the trip reports seems like my type of thing =)
 
I have found that some experiences take multiple times to reveal their true natures. For example, it took smoking cannabis several times before I fully felt its effects. I experienced similar phenomenon with 2cb, 2ce, 4-aco-dipt, and 4-aco-dmt. Methylone was the only thing I was fully impressed with the first time I took it.

As I worked with the chemicals more, I upped the dosage and eventually found satisfying levels. There were others that, although I found reasonably active levels, I wasn't satisfied with so didn't keep.

However, if one is approaching 40 + mg of 4-aco-dmt or 30 + mg of 2ce without being very fazed, I would seriously doubt the purity of the product. I mean, our receptors and brains are designed to react a certain way when exposed to certain chemicals. Despite set, setting, and YMMV, there's few ways around that. At those ammounts I would attribute the lack of effect to poor product than anything else. The few who felt anything probably had some real effect + some placebo. In fact, I would be skeptical of anything bought on the RC grey market in a "going out of business"-type sale. I would be interested to see how you and your group would react from these chems if purchased direct from the lab or from pre web-tryp resellers. I have a strong feeling your experiences would be markedly different b/c of better quality product.

On the other hand, if you are accustomed to eating 7+g dry mushrooms regularly and walking it off, then you're pretty badass. I mean, even 500 ug of good LSD would pale a bit when compared to high dose (10+g) of shrooms.

How do you react to DMT?
 
Vehe said:
4-aco-dmt, but I definitely cannot say a single good word about the 2c-x's.


Anyway, thanks for everyone's help. It seems my body doesn't react that well to these substances.
Probably will try one more: DPT, from the trip reports seems like my type of thing =)
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Sorry to give you a hard time... just a little "tough love", bro, haha.

Actually one of my best friends, a LONG time psychedelic and other substance using psychonaut, VERY open to anything really, finds that 95% of the chems I try and have no problem with and have great experiences on... just make him feel sick and dysphoric and he hates them..... he DID love 4-aco-dmt however, and still thanks me for turning him onto it.

Just something about his particular system vs. most pure phen and also tryptamine chemical powders somehow just do not go together... go figure. But 4-aco-dmt OK, and he also reacted well to 2C-I and liked it too.

So, yea, I was just putting up a challenge to see see how you'd react, wondering to what extent pre-concieved notions maybe had something to do with it.

Hopefully DPT will agree with you, but in one of these threads (one of the stickys up top I think) someone mentioned that alot of people find DPT disagreeable, causing "sweating, trembling, etc." so you may wanna approach with caution.... Please let us know how it goes, should be very interesting to hear, thanks.
 
|>R()|)!G/-\|_ said:
I have found that some experiences take multiple times to reveal their true natures. For example, it took smoking cannabis several times before I fully felt its effects. I experienced similar phenomenon with 2cb, 2ce, 4-aco-dipt, and 4-aco-dmt. Methylone was the only thing I was fully impressed with the first time I took it.

As I worked with the chemicals more, I upped the dosage and eventually found satisfying levels. There were others that, although I found reasonably active levels, I wasn't satisfied with so didn't keep.

However, if one is approaching 40 + mg of 4-aco-dmt or 30 + mg of 2ce without being very fazed, I would seriously doubt the purity of the product. I mean, our receptors and brains are designed to react a certain way when exposed to certain chemicals. Despite set, setting, and YMMV, there's few ways around that. At those ammounts I would attribute the lack of effect to poor product than anything else. The few who felt anything probably had some real effect + some placebo. In fact, I would be skeptical of anything bought on the RC grey market in a "going out of business"-type sale. I would be interested to see how you and your group would react from these chems if purchased direct from the lab or from pre web-tryp resellers. I have a strong feeling your experiences would be markedly different b/c of better quality product.

On the other hand, if you are accustomed to eating 7+g dry mushrooms regularly and walking it off, then you're pretty badass. I mean, even 500 ug of good LSD would pale a bit when compared to high dose (10+g) of shrooms.

How do you react to DMT?
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Mushrooms, for me, are very easy to control. I can eat those amounts and have a very nice trip while doing other things and be hyper focused on what I'm doing. For me LSD is much stronger, uncontrollable and a mind fuck. It's a hard one to ride sometimes. But it's also the one who gives me the most rewards.

n.n-DMT I haven't tried. It's on the top of my list but I can't even get the chemicals to extract it in my country. Also no one sells it unfortunately :/
 
2C-I just felt absurd in my system, I didn't end up enjoying it much and would rather eat some good old dandy LSD and MDMA in the future. To much physical distress for a trip, whereas I can just eat away on my mushrooms or LSD and feel pretty damn good physically.

however I did respond very well to 4-AcO-DMT, I loved it 90% as much as I like mushrooms, and mushrooms are my first ally! felt good in my body and induced pleasure, I didn't give into any anxiety that hallucinating in a new environment can cause and even though I felt distinctly "intense" during certain phases of the trip I still had a confidence about me that can sometimes be lacking in other trips.

2C-I freaked me out while I was on it because I know it's relatively new to humans, and I just felt out of control at some points which I usually pride myself on being the best at when tripping. Just didn't feel like it went well with me personally or humans in general...compared to our symbiotic relationship with mushrooms or mescaline it just felt alien, foreign, so much so that I just beared the trip until it died down... the visuals were RAMPANT though which would have been interesting if the 2C-I had not induced a headache from overstimulation of a nature I was not used to.

I also tried AMT which I almost enjoyed, but I just puked way to many times and the smell of moth balls stuck with me the whole trip where I could swear that my sweat smelled like the stuff, I realized later that it was probably just the taste of the vomit sticking with me...bleck

different strokes = different folks, I tend to prefer getting really comfortable with a chemical and then experimenting heavily with it, the tasting days have slowed down and i've targeted alot of what types of drugs that will go well with me and which ones wont.

I like psychedellic tryptamines but not euphoric ones

I like euphoric phenethylamines but not psychedellic ones
 
Am I the only person here who still has nearly zero problems with dirty ingestion, physical side effects, and extreme body tripping?

Many of those tend to happen during my more interesting and seemingly valuable trips, they seem to be mechanisms that are intertwined into the psychedelic experience that I didn't ask for but I don't let them hinder my interest in the trip.

I try not to overthink or let any sides get insanely unbearable, but that usually is not a problem when I don't nitpick over stuff besides what I really want. (Never had a headache though, I hear those can be a bitch, so can psychs that you just didn't enjoy the trip itself either... in that case agreed move on!)
 
No wonder I didn't like it that much. I just found out the problem.

It blocks my emotions!!!!!

I'm on a heavy dose of 4-aco-dmt right now + mdma and man, do I feel like a zombie! It's like I'm dead, it even blocks the effects of mdma. Music that usually makes my skin crawl feels dead, I can't enjoy anything, I can't feel positive or negative emotions at all. ! damn

The bigger the dosage the less I feel, that's what I found out tonight. Same thing with 2c-i. Just makes me feel dead, completely disconnected from life.

People are usually afraid of bad trips but I tell you, I would take a million bad trips over this.

At least it made me realize something. Emotions are the most important thing in this world and no one even realizes that. Live them, enjoy them, negative or positive, they are everything!!!!!!!!
 
atara said:
2C-I is a pretty damn emotional substance for me, I'd have to say.

If you want a "deep" RC, look no further than DPT, or maybe 5-MeO-MET
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yeah bud i know. I realized it's my body. Just not compatible with these substances.

I think I'm coming down slowly now. I can feel the mdma in the background trying to kick in but everything still blocked. can't feel anything.
 
The term is hard, even exotic psychedelics is unclear but how are you going to qualify what does and does not belong to the selected group. Anyway I think this is about 2C-X, tryptamines, DOX, that sort of thing. Interpret it as you wish.

But what I find interesting is that it is best practice to test for idiosyncratic reactions, sometimes even called allergic - by taking a very low dose the first time. What I would like to hear about is if anyone ever got such a reaction. Does anaphylaxis ever occur with these drugs? What other kind of reaction does occasionally happen? Titrating up from very low is always a good idea but again: I never read about someone getting a freak reaction like that.
This does not mean I condone skipping the part of testing the waters...

I know compounds like 2C-B can make you have some kind of reaction that seems immunologic, like hocking up a lot of phlegm and on other compounds like DMT (or analogues) getting a weird kind of sputum...
 
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