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Anyone else had a codeine addiction?

Hmmmm - 'lifting off' is something I nevr had, got or sensed from codeine, DHC or whatever? I have to ask myself the brutally awkward question.... "what do I get from it?" The only honest answer is freedom from pain... but then there is an element of 'mental pain' there too, to be really honest? It's complicated stuff in a way...
 
BigG said:
Most chemists only sell the Pholcodine linctus OTC nowadays which isnt the same thing. I've never bought codeine linctus OTC but I imagine if you went and insisted on that rather than the Pholcodine it would raise alarm bells since most people with a genuine cough would simply take whatever was offered and wouldn't have a preference.
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I'm honestly surprised codeine linctus is still sold at all when pholcodine exists. I'd have expected the codeine linctus to have been discontinued since pholcodine is just as effective for coughs. At this point any pharmacy stocking codeine linctus knows very well what you want it for. I've got two chemists near me that stock it and they ask very few or no questions when I go in asking for it. No doubt they're well aware of why I'm asking for it.

What I'm more surprised at is how easily available J Collis Browne's Mixture is. A particularly large pharmacy chain the UK * snip * seems to stock it at all of their stores. They don't tend to ask many questions either, although I suspect that's more because they don't consider it abusable with the tiny dose of morphine it contains, or the pharmacists don't realise it's morphine at all. It's just crazy morphine in any form remains sold OTC. And if you down a bottle of J Collis you will be feeling pretty nice.
 
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^I often wonder about posts like yours. Your not new to the site, you know your post is wrong or you wouldn't have done the 'rhymes with' and your blatantly giving sources for a semi controlled substance.
 
Didn't realise OTC sourcing was taken so seriously honestly. We're not discussing anything illegal.
 
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^ Sourcing of all kinds is taken seriously on BL. We know there is a weird area when it comes to OTC drugs but the rules iz the rules: No source discussion of any kind allowed.

In OTC morphine news, there's a really nice lemon flavoured one I used to get years ago. It's sold for coughs and only available in East Anglia but buggered if I can remember what it's called. Was rather nice though. But nothing beats Gee's Linctus... at least with no tolerance. Opium tincture ftw!
 
I get asked more questions from online pharmacies when buying Gee's Linctus than on the high street! I just ordered a wee bottle there. I saw they had J Collis Brown's Mixture - is it any good? I was going to add it to my basket but then realised they most likely would not ship my order. They don't let you order more than one bottle of Gee's at a time either.

They're not so slow :|
 
Shambles said:
^ Sourcing of all kinds is taken seriously on BL. We know there is a weird area when it comes to OTC drugs but the rules iz the rules: No source discussion of any kind allowed.

In OTC morphine news, there's a really nice lemon flavoured one I used to get years ago. It's sold for coughs and only available in East Anglia but buggered if I can remember what it's called. Was rather nice though. But nothing beats Gee's Linctus... at least with no tolerance. Opium tincture ftw!
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Fair mate, it's your forum I'll be more careful in the future.
 
Don Luigi said:
I get asked more questions from online pharmacies when buying Gee's Linctus than on the high street! I just ordered a wee bottle there. I saw they had J Collis Brown's Mixture - is it any good? I was going to add it to my basket but then realised they most likely would not ship my order. They don't let you order more than one bottle of Gee's at a time either.

They're not so slow :|
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J Collis Browne's is worth it if you have a low opiate tolerance. If codeine still does it for you then a bottle or two of J Collis will as well. But we're talking about 20mg oral morphine per bottle so you will need to down at least one full bottle. I find it extremely easy to source from brick and mortar pharmacies. Three different independent ones, plus the big chain I cannot name, have sold it to me with very few or no questions asked. Even managed to buy two bottles at once before.
 
I know like I said it's fair, I'm not going to argue your rules on the forum you run, sure you got perfectly good reasons for all of it. With the range of colourful substances you allow discussion of I'm sure you don't want to be seen as allowing sourcing for anything that might even look dodgy even if it's available from a pharmacy. That's why I'm conceding and just saying I won't do it again.
 
Over the last two or so years I've built up from taking a few co-coadmols a day to taking around 30 x 30mg Dihydrocodeine tabs a day. I feel like it helps me relax mentally, but it's sad how tolerance has built up and how much I have to take now to have the same effect. I'm thinking I want to go cold turkey soon. I will run out of Dihydrocodeine soon anyway. I'm worried about how bad the withdrawals will be because I have to go to work and have to focus for 11-12 hours. I don't want to taper because I want to get over this fast. I'm thinking of using lopes to help with the tummy problems and help with WDs. If anyone has a similar problem at the moment let me know, I'll post on here and tell you how it's going
 
Don't overuse the loperamide Kitty - as uncomfortable as your tummy may get loperamide is still an opiate, and despite it's apparent inability to cross the BBB large doses are often used by people to ease wd symptoms over and above it's soothing action to ones guts.... it does (in my experience) work in this fashion to some extent but may of course prolong the wd syndrome and if your not interested in a gradual taper and just want to hit this head on - just face the music, stay close to a toilet, wrap up and keep comfy and you should find that 5 - 7 days of discomfort should be the extent of it before your more or less back on ur feet. Although you have stated that you don't want to reduce slowly down to nowt (which will take time) try and use whatever DF118 you have left to at least taper down to the lowest dose you can manage on before taking the plunge. Good luck!
 
What Stee said. You will not be able to CT from nigh on a gramme a day of DHC. Not whilst working daily anyway. Taper. Doesn't have to be a long drawn out one but a taper will definitely be required if you intend to keep your job, I'm afraid.
 
You definitely must taper. Weed also helps a lot with the withdrawals, as do benzos although obviously you risk swapping one addiction for another going that route, but nothing will really make a proper dent in it except for opiates and cold turkey from such a high dose will be very unpleasant.

Thankfully tapering is generally easy for the most part. I've had to taper from codeine before and was able to cut my dose in half in a few days without much trouble. The difficult bit is always the final jump - actually coming off the drug completely. But I stress again, it will be much much harder if you go cold turkey. Doing the taper first not only makes it easier for you but also makes you more likely to stick with it and not relapse.
 
Hi Stee, I just made a new a thread today about this.. . I did jump in cold turkey.. And I've made it to today ..day 5. The worse is over now I know, but I know there's still a long road to go. Thanks for the advice guys x
 
Well done - keep it up! Of course it's a long road but your now in the best position to start making your way... the day will come sooner than you think when you get up one morning and think 'shit - I went a whole day and the notion of taking DHC didn't enter my thoughts once'.

Onwards, forwards and upwards - don't get stuck in the revolving door like sad old twats like me.

xxx
 
Day 6 .. I feel pretty normal actually. I still wake up not wanting to wake up.. I'm not sure what to do with myself or what to aim for. I have a good job which I'll be returning to at the end of the week ..but I've just realised that this habit actually started about 5 years ago.. I mean it wasn't until the last few months that I was taking sooo many tablets.. But it's like.. I don't even know who I am without any substance in me. 18/19years.. To almost 24 years old.. And I don't know the "real me" I'm probably just talking shit like always X
 
Nah. That's a very common feeling people get when coming off of opies - other addictions too but opies in particular ime. The best advice is also the dullest advice - it gets better in time but can certainly drag its feet in getting there. This is why so many addicts keep going back around and around the not-so-very-merry-go-round. Either the underlying issues behind the addictive behaviour are not yet resolved or the addictive behaviour itself has created issues which now need resolving. Or often both.

Can take a very long time before a person begins to feel themselves again - complicated by the fact people often never really got to know themselves before the addiction took over in the first place cos they started so young. You seem to be doing okay on the physical side so I would strongly suggest not taking this for granted - detoxes get harder and harder each time around (in particular the mental and emotional sides with the physical aspect becoming depressingly familiar (and thus perhaps easier) but also more intense (and thus harder).

In short, hang on in cos you will feel ever more "normal" in time... but only if you avoid relapses and get caught up in the two steps forward three steps back cycle. Best of luck <3
 
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