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Heroin Anyone else get really lovey-dovey after doing dope? Almost MDMA-like...

EveryStar

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Now, I used to have a heroin addiction for quite some time, after a couple of years I eventually went on MTT (100mg daily), and in 2010 ended up doing a detox cold turkey (along with a taper over the course of two weeks from the benzos I had been scripted for nearly a year, clonazepam 2mg and temazepam 30mg daily). Then I went to a rehab for about a year (a "therapeutic community" as they call it, no 12-step crap or nothing as I had already done in the past countless times, that 28-day crap doesn't do a damn thing).

After getting out last summer (around August 2011), I decided to finally get my life back on track, started going to school again and such...but I still like to get high once in a while...like doing a gram of dope over 4-5 and then stop for a month or so...haven't gotten hooked again (but lately I started with the benzos again and it's been giving me a little trouble along with alcohol...but it's getting better now), surprisingly I've managed to chip for the past 8-9 months or so without any problems.

Now, to get to the point: back in the days when I would shoot some dope, I would just nod the fuck out and just basically kinda not want to talk or do anything at all but lay there...these days when I do it, especially since it's only once a month or so, a 10 dollar bag just puts me into hardcore nod-mode for a few hours and I'm high basically the entire day (like a couple days ago I shot up at 9am, and at 9pm I was still itching all over and such...), except I feel really lovey-dovey, almost like MDMA (but without the ridiculously intense MDMA euphoria, obviously), I just want to talk to people and tell them my feelings and have really long, deep heart-to-heart talks with my friends and with love interests of mine... I'll simultaneously feel like I'm full of energy, really social and in a great mood, but completely relaxed at the same time; only if I lay down or get in a really comfortable position do I start nodding the fuck out (unless it's a really high/borderline OD dose, then I just nod the fuck out and/or pass out for an hour or two...kind of scary at times).

Does this happen to anyone else? I have plenty of experience with heroin, and every other drug under the sun, snorted, smoked, IVed, but it's only these days, after over a year's abstinence (and also in a different country...back in the States it was either number 4 beige/tan/white powder or tar, here in Portugal it's brown powdery/chunky number 3 dope, the kind you need citric acid to dissolve), that I feel this way.

Don't get me wrong, it feels great, and people don't notice anything (only other junkies who know the signs...itching, constricted pupils and whatnot), they just think I'm in a great mood, as opposed to when I take benzos or drink, it feels like it's never enough and doesn't hit the spot just right like dope does...yet everybody else notices I'm completely fucked up except me, and end up taking more.

It's like the perfect drug, and feels less addictive to me than before (then again that probably has to do with the brainwashing I went through after a year in treatment, I'm more conscious of my limits and up to which point I can go without falling off the deep end), even though I know it really isn't...

Anyways, sorry about the long post, I actually just shot up (maybe a little less than 0.2, and smoked maybe 50-75mg beforehand as well...the dope here isn't very pure but it's ridiculously cheap...) about an hour ago and feeling real chatty and chill and itchy all over. =D

Take care of yourselves, people. %)
(I really am in a position to say that myself, huh...goddamn hypocrite that I am)
 
Yup... Most of my using career I'd use to just up until the point of getting fucked up, so I was totally functional. It was almost speed, just a totally energetic euphoria. I'm not sure I'd really compare it to MDMA, but in some respects I totally get what you're talking about. The best experiences on heroin I've had were almost exactly like the first time I plugged pure MDMA (wooooooonderful experience, the standard by which all other drugs I take are judged, and it's a pretty high bar).
 
Yes, this is always what I loved about heroin, that feeling of chemical induced empathy. I like the nod and all, but for me, the appeal was that intense sense of love and connection, that I could never seem to obtain through any other means.
 
Yup it's funny... I pop a couple of benzos and drink a few beers and people just tell me I'm completely fucked up and acting a fool all night long. But then when I shoot heroin everybody loves me and think I'm the wittiest, nicest guy on the planet and don't notice a damn thing about how high I am. Funny, huh...for the reputation it has, it puts me in better standing with people (as long as they don't know what's really going on, of course) than when I take legal, government-regulated alcohol and medication...

Right now I'm just running around the house full of energy cooking some pasta with tomato sauce and hamburgers, listening to music loud as fuck and talking to people on the phone just having a great time (oh and scratching myself all over of course too!). Then when I sit down on my couch and smoke a cig and lay back I can just relax and close my eyes and get a mild nod going on...it's like an upper and a downer all in one! :D
 
I don't do heroin generally, I've done it a few times but I mainly shoot strong pharmaceutical opioids. In any event, similar drugs. I get the same sort of reaction. After a nice big shot of hydromorphone for e.g. I find I am very happy and open to other people, affectionate and all that. I think it is from the euphoria and the sense of well being and relaxation that goes with opioids.
 
Yup... Most of my using career I'd use to just up until the point of getting fucked up, so I was totally functional. It was almost speed, just a totally energetic euphoria. I'm not sure I'd really compare it to MDMA, but in some respects I totally get what you're talking about. The best experiences on heroin I've had were almost exactly like the first time I plugged pure MDMA (wooooooonderful experience, the standard by which all other drugs I take are judged, and it's a pretty high bar).

Yes, this is always what I loved about heroin, that feeling of chemical induced empathy. I like the nod and all, but for me, the appeal was that intense sense of love and connection, that I could never seem to obtain through any other means.

I agree with these two. It's also the reason why I don't take doses high enough to nod out right away, and why I prefer the nasal ROA. Sure, I like to nod out later on in the night, but not until after I have a nice energetic high going in which I text/call my friends, and am extremely nice and talkative to them. We call it "the talkies" in my group of opiate using friends.
 
Hahaha tommyboy I do the same thing when I'm opiated. I don't use heroin, but RIGHT after onset, I become hypersocial.

"Hey what are you guys doing, lets hangout!" or
"what do you guys wanna do?!" or
"Let's go to _____ I'll drive/have gas money"
 
For me it depends on ROA. If I shoot, I just nod and feel really good. A lot of times I'll find myself texting/calling people and telling them how much I enjoy our friendship and other lovey dovey stuff like the OP mentioned.

It's less so when I smoke, I get more energetic and talkative and a lot more functional. I prefer it for everyday. It makes me into a better person. Between heroin and xanax I'm a pretty nice guy. lol
 
Humm..I can't really comment on how heroin makes me feel using it like you guys are describing. I don't really remember what it's like not using while strung out, so right after I fixed I would get the feelings you're talking about..but within a half hour when the high really subsided, I would be in a really bad mood, cranky, and not fun to be around. Of course, i was strung to the gills so.. I've often thought about the benefits of getting high occasionally, using it like some people do alcohol..once in a while to relax. I just don't think I'd be able to do it. It'd be like..getting back together with a psychotic ex girlfriend who once thought you were cheating and attacked you with a baseball bat when you were sleeping..and deciding to just have a casual friendly fling..won't happen. To much negative history. Wish I was wrong, because a casual love affair with dope would be wonderful.
 
I shot up like 3 hours ago and after running around full of energy, cooking dinner like a boss (fuck I felt like a goddamn chef and that homemade bolognese pasta I made from scratch tasted so goddamn good), multitasking, smoking, texting and talking on the phone at the same time, I can just chill on the couch zoning out to some music (Primal Scream and Spacemen 3...real dopey stuff :))...but within a second if I someone calls me up to do something I can just jump out of my seat and get going!

Here's a little song for y'all junkies in here:

Feel So Good by Spacemen 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ0DCx_Vx_U

Don't it feel so good, don't it feel just fine, takes me out of my mind... ;)
 
I agree with these two. It's also the reason why I don't take doses high enough to nod out right away, and why I prefer the nasal ROA. Sure, I like to nod out later on in the night, but not until after I have a nice energetic high going in which I text/call my friends, and am extremely nice and talkative to them. We call it "the talkies" in my group of opiate using friends.

The smell of tar alone makes me gag.

I pretty much would only IV heroin anyways but I sure did love the nasal ROA for powder.

*shrugs* can't get powder in LA. Oh well. Thank god for needle exchanges.
 
yes i love it! i love socializing on opiates....for some reason i get the most sympathy and urge to socialize on bup...i might be weird?

i tend to just nod out on heroin
 
lacster you are indeed very weird. but your girlfriend loves it so its all good, she told me about it last night while you were out being social on bupre.

@CH avoiding the east is for the best.
 
Sometimes opioids have put me in lovey-dovey moods. When on opioids I feel I can bear life as it is, and do it well, be productive, no anxieties etc. I think this is part of the reason. The other part simply has to do with the euphoria and mood-lift. Sometimes I can get snappy on opiates, but only if I am either very still just enjoying them or nodding, and someone bothers me. Otherwise, the world is my friend, because everything seems great. My grandfather has always told a story of when he was prescribed hydrocodone or oxycodone for a tooth removal, he felt so complimented by the very simple help of a sales-girl, when he got home he wrote a letter of appreication and gratitude for this seemingly wonderful help he got. In reality, of course, the girl was doing her job. Either way, this is not unusual. Opiates are funny because you just feel good, you don't feel more, rather you just appreciate the good more because you see it without the bad. Opiates in themselves are lovey-dovey drugs, they hug you and snuggle for as long as they last.
 
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