anyone collect stems?

[hendrix_420]

nice

 

[Captain.Heroin]

I use stems to cook into oil and make edibles with. The last time I did this, I had over 2 ounces of stem.

lol stems I just chuck em away the THC is in the buds guys. Seriously there is no real use in them. Only the trim off the bud is worth keeping, even then it takes a lot of trim to get a gram of hash. then again placebo is a strong mofo.

You are actually incorrect. There is kief on stems. This can be cooked into oil, and when ingested it will get you high.

 

[Full Effect]

I use stems to cook into oil and make edibles with. The last time I did this, I had over 2 ounces of stem.



You are actually incorrect. There is kief on stems. This can be cooked into oil, and when ingested it will get you high.

Technically maybe but realisically there no use, you can also get something from the big fan leaves but it is very minimal, same goes for the stems.

 

[BiG StroOnZ]

Technically maybe but realisically there no use

lol this is a funny statement, that doesn't make sense.

 

[morphene]

lol this is a funny statement, that doesn't make sense.

It's accurate none the less though. I throw my stems and fan leaves away when I make extract. People doing it commercially do the same. Starting material doesn't just effect yield it effects quality. You'll never get anything close to shatter or melt out of trash like that.

 

[respect authority]

Yeah, stems from high quality pot absolutely would work - I've never made hash with them before but have used them for Green Dragon and tea on a couple occasions and the effects were far beyond anything in the realm of placebo. If you smoke great weed, you should have kief stuck all over your stems.

 

[Full Effect]

lol this is a funny statement, that doesn't make sense.

Of course it does, it's like saying you should eat your rubbish just in case there is some food left over, stem collecting is akin to scavenging on a rubbish dump.

 

[Full Effect]

Yeah, stems from high quality pot absolutely would work - I've never made hash with them before but have used them for Green Dragon and tea on a couple occasions and the effects were far beyond anything in the realm of placebo. If you smoke great weed, you should have kief stuck all over your stems.

Why ? Kief goes on the buds and the surrounding smaller fan leaves I have never seen a plant with kief on the stem, if it is there it can't be seen by the naked eye.

Each to their own but stems to me are just rubbish, I only keep the buds (obviously) and the trim from my grows (then make hash with that) the rest goes in the bin, stems and large fan leaves ? There pretty much useless to my mind.

 

[The Winner!!]

It can most definately be seen with the naked eye, coated in crystals, it depends on the weed you get, stems straight from the plant arn't as good, but stems that were inside of buds should be coated in kief, and saving them up for when you have no weed, you can extract the thc from the stems a variety of ways.

 

[BiG StroOnZ]

It's accurate none the less though. I throw my stems and fan leaves away when I make extract. People doing it commercially do the same. Starting material doesn't just effect yield it effects quality. You'll never get anything close to shatter or melt out of trash like that.

How is it accurate, when you can use the whole Cannabis plant efficiently? The whole plant contains THC. It's by no means even close to a "placebo effect."

This statement is far from accurate. Have stem tea and tell me if that's a placebo effect.

Of course it does, it's like saying you should eat your rubbish just in case there is some food left over, stem collecting is akin to scavenging on a rubbish dump.

The thing is, it's nothing like that. Stems and leaves serve their purpose. You can make tea, coffee, hash, or even smoke it. Chalk it up however you want, but there's no reason to throw it away when it has so many uses.

I have never seen a plant with kief on the stem, if it is there it can't be seen by the naked eye.

Then you're not getting high grade Cannabis, I don't think I've ever had bud that didn't have trichomes on the stems. They are very visible, even by the naked eye.

 

[Full Effect]

How is it accurate, you can use the whole Cannabis plant. The whole plant contains THC. It's by no means even close to a "placebo effect."

This statement is far from accurate.



The thing is, it's nothing like that. Stems and leaves serve their purpose. You can make tea, coffee, hash, or even smoke it. Chalk it up however you want, but there's no reason to throw it away when it has so many uses.



Then you're not getting high grade Cannabis, I don't think I've ever had bud that didn't have trichomes on the stems. They are very visible, even by the naked eye.

I dunno man I grow my own from quality seed banks like DNA genetics, Paradise seeds and Serious seeds most growers i know chuck the stems and the large fan leaves, the fact is most the THC is on the buds and the surrounding leaves aka the trim, go find me a picture of stems with tric's on.. If there was trics on stems like you say how come the vast majority (if not all) growers chuck em ?

I'm not saying there is no THC there, just that it is minimal at best therefore not owrth the hassle of doing anything with them, plus you already have copious amounts of bud, as i said it's like scavenging.

 

[BiG StroOnZ]

^There's other Cannabinoids in the plant than just THC, that's why you can use the whole plant itself. If you made a nice tea using the stems and leaves, the high is completely different than if you smoked the buds. There's a different combination of Cannabinoids in different parts of the plant.

Obviously the buds contain more THC, this is a given, but it doesn't change the fact that you can't use the other parts of the plant effectively.

Here's a picture of visible trichomes on the stems and stalk (both male and female plants):

 

[Full Effect]

^There's other Cannabinoids in the plant than just THC, that's why you can use the whole plant itself. If you made a nice tea using the stems and leaves, the high is completely different than if you smoked the buds. There's a different combination of Cannabinoids in different parts of the plant.

Obviously the buds contain more THC, this is a given, but it doesn't change the fact that you can't use the other parts of the plant effectively.

Here's a picture of visible trichomes on the stems and stalk (both male and female plants):

Yeah I respect what your saying but compared to the buds and surrounding leaves there is nothing there, guess it depends on what you see as waste or not, from what i can gather the best use for stems is the alcohol route, I may give it a go sometime, but when ever I have tried smoking stems they a) Taste like crap and b) you need to smoke a lot of bowls to get anything off of them, still I was perhaps a little harsh saying they did nothing but weight for weight, compared to buds or trim there not to me at least worth bothering with, you can at least see what i'm saying hopefully ! It's like eating leftovers say ! i'd happily donate any stems i get for free, would not do that with trim though, you can make some lovely hash off the trim ! %)

peace out..

 

[BiG StroOnZ]

^That's my point though, I know people who grow plants that put the trim to use. With the trim you can make hash, as you mentioned. There's plenty of resin that comes from the stems, stalks, and leaves.

Smoking bowls of it of course isn't a very effective route of getting "high" compared to smoking the buds. However, like I mentioned it can become very useful if you save a large quantity of the stems like the OP did.

With that amount of stems that the OP has you can make a serious batch of brownies, utilizing only a few grams of buds. You can grind it all up into a fine powder and throw it in your coffee grounds in the morning. Giving you a very heady and speedy coffee. You can make stem tea by just putting the ground up stems in a tea bag and steeping it in boiling water; add a little honey, sugar and lemon. Giving you a real nice head buzz that's similar to smoking a Sativa. That amount the OP has also would be a great base for making some decent hash.

There's many uses for the stems, it's just a matter of how you want to use them (or if you care to).

 

[morphene]

This statement is far from accurate. Have stem tea and tell me if that's a placebo effect.

The post you quoted didn't say anything about a placebo, in fact it said minimal. Which is totally accurate. Yes, you can extract some amount of active product from the stems, though the end result will still be poor quality. Is it worth it? To you apparently, but not to most.

I grow basil on my windowsill too. Do its stems have flavor? Yup. A lot? Nope. If I want to make some more sauce I just use more leaves like 99.999% of the rest of the world. Is there liquor in the corn mash they throw away when making bourbon? Nutritional value in cow's tongue? I stay away from that shit too.

 

[BiG StroOnZ]

^Yes the post I quoted didn't contain the comment about it being a placebo effect, but the overall conclusion of that quoted post was that smoking stems only give you "a placebo effect."

Your negating analogies don't really suit the topic of utilizing stems. Stems have a purpose, they can be extracted well and the end product will not be of poor quality. It may not be worth it to most because most don't know what they can use it for, or as most people do, as proven in this thread; dismiss it as not containing "THC," when there's other Cannabinoids in the Cannabis plant than just THC.

 

[Full Effect]

Lets face it, if you had unlimited buds you would just chuck the stems, it to me smacks of desperation using them, I gotta draw the line somehwere to me stems is a step too far, if i am looking at them thinking lets try and get high I'm doing it wrong, I should just grow more weed, which i do.

Fair play they do work to a degree, it just comes down to how much buds you got really.. you only have to grow a few ounces worth to last you till the next lots ready, especially if you have seperate veg and flower rooms.

I'm saying this as if you have lots of stems your probably growing, so I don't get why you just don't have enough bud anyway ?

 

[BiG StroOnZ]

^I don't see it as being "desperate." I find that idea to be similar to the stigma that scraping your bowl and smoking the resin is also "desperate." Although, every pot head has probably done that at least once (and if you ever did that, ending up with a nice sized resin ball... you know it's worth it). It really has nothing to do with money, or the quantity of buds you have at a given time.

All I'm saying is that you can utilize the stems, and produce good products out of it that give you a different high or effect than smoking the buds alone. As I said before, there's other Cannabinoids in the plant than just THC. The whole plant can be used to your advantage. I wouldn't want to make coffee or tea using the buds, because I want to smoke them. There's more uses to the Cannabis plant than just smoking the female buds.

If I grew a few ounces, out of all the excess trim that came out of it. I could make many different Cannabis products out of it that would be worth my time. Although, not only people who grow themselves have a lot of stems. I used to just save all the stems when I would pick up weight. The end result giving you a bag that looks similar to the OP, sometimes even more depending on how much weight you typically pick up.

If you don't want to use your stems, I'm not trying to convince you that you're wrong. I'm just saying there's other uses than just smoking the female buds.

 

[Full Effect]

^I don't see it as being "desperate." I find that idea to be similar to the stigma that scraping your bowl and smoking the resin is also "desperate." Although, every pot head has probably done that at least once (and if you ever did that, ending up with a nice sized resin ball... you know it's worth it). It really has nothing to do with money, or the quantity of buds you have at a given time.

All I'm saying is that you can utilize the stems, and produce good products out of it that give you a different high or effect than smoking the buds alone. As I said before, there's other Cannabinoids in the plant than just THC. The whole plant can be used to your advantage. I wouldn't want to make coffee or tea using the buds, because I want to smoke them. There's more uses to the Cannabis plant than just smoking the female buds.

If I grew a few ounces, out of all the excess trim that came out of it. I could make many different Cannabis products out of it that would be worth my time. Although, not only people who grow themselves have a lot of stems. I used to just save all the stems when I would pick up weight. The end result giving you a bag that looks similar to the OP, sometimes even more depending on how much weight you typically pick up.

If you don't want to use your stems, I'm not trying to convince you that you're wrong. I'm just saying there's other uses than just smoking the female buds.

Yeah agreed, I think the bottom line is they have a use if NEEDED, but it's easy to just discard them when you have a nice little stash already, t'is all I'm saying..There the least useful part of the cannabis plant and that is a fact.

It goes

1 Buds
2 Trim
3 Larger Fan leaves
4 Stems

 

[HighonLife]

you dont have to be desperate to use all parts of anything. it is called being resourceful and concious that everything has a purpose n should be used n not wasted.

americans n other western nations in general have a terrible concept of what is an what isnt 'worth' anything.