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Anybody ever knew a person who went crazy from using psychedelics???

My mom knew a guy in college who lost his marbles. He was a super bright, straight laced kid at first, but then he started to dabble. His drug use got out of hand extremely quick. There was a back alley you needed to pass through to get through a certain building, and he was fucking a couchcoushion or something like that while calling her Ruby Tuesday. He always believed that the purple dragon left food for him in the garbage cans, which he would collect, pour into a giant pot, boil and consume.

There is also some acid casualty that wanders around town. Insanely dirty dreadlocks, always doing this weird figit thing with his hands, and looks like he stole his clothes from a clothesline. He seems to think I'm the president of Croatia. I'm flattered. He's my towns official unofficial mascot.
 
My father's sister my aunt did ALOT of acid in the 60's, 70's and has never really gotten back to herself. She still works in our carnival but she is just.not.there. It's very sad. She can work but can't relate barely… she is like 50% gone.
 
*not counting psychedelics more often considered dissociatives*

Temporarily crazy - Salvia. I don't mean a bad trip. I mean people being completely out of it for like an hour after the drug's effects have clearly worn off. Literally trying to pull themselves back together is what it seems like.

Permanent damage - LSD, of course. Some people will still say that it's bullshit. People who love it (same goes with LSA, by the way) too much just tend to lose it. Not everyone but I know people who just aren't all there anymore. Another one is Ibogaine. Benzo and alcohol addiction treatment gone wrong, multiple 'sessions'. Fucked her up, not sure how.

I've never seen anyone lose it with DMT. Ever. Seen my friends way more detached than said Ibogaine patient, but DMT has always been kind to them in the long wrong.

I'm curious about Psilocybin and Peyote. Don't know anyone who has lost it from either, but I presume that with enough too frequent use the same logic applies to some degree.

On another note, because someone on the first page brought up derealization with mushrooms: this is kind of in between dissociatives and psychedelics but I'll count it anyways. It doesn't make one 'crazy' either but it does fuck you up permanently in one particular way. Speaking from personal experience here - the Muscimol from the Amanita muscaria left me with full on derealization disorder after daily sustained use. Took those for quite a while, then found out that Zolpidem (Ambien) is essentially in effect Muscimol in pill form, as many reported to me. Zolpidem doesn't have the toxicity the mushrooms have so I started taking it and sure enough, it was mostly the same. It's like a good batch of Maeng Da kratom vs. hydrocodone, where despite structural differences, it feels at least 90% identical provided you can eliminate variables. I went from a point where I had what I thought was derealization disorder, where things felt moderately fake, (just with the mushrooms) to things feeling totally fake after taking Zolpidem every day for three years.

That may not be inherent to those drugs and the way they worked, it might be something more inherent to GABA binding agents period and benzos might do the same thing. I don't know, but I know those aren't remotely psychedelic.
 
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I have a friend with bipolar disorder who used to take a lot of psychedelics (against my advice) and ended up having a few psychotic breaks over the years. He'd get a couple strips of acid or a half oz. of mushrooms and just take either for like a week straight. The first time he became extremely religious and stopped talking to me and our other friends which was especially strange since he had always been a very outspoken atheist/antitheist. It was like he rejected everything he'd previously thought and became very closed-minded almost overnight, but it did actually seem like it was a positive thing for him - he lost a lot of weight and started dating a nice girl.

I don't remember when it happened but at some point he reverted back to his old ways, slowly began using drugs again and stopped with all of his overbearing religious babble. He was fine for a while, just smoked and drank and still seemed to be in a positive, healthy mindset. I'm not exactly sure when he was diagnosed with bipolar disorder, but the diagnosis alone seemed to catalyze a lot of his behavior, and he started heavily using psychedelics again even though I told him it was a bad idea, reminded him what happened last time, etc.

Lo and behold, he had another psychotic break, and this time it was much worse than before. I don't know what drugs he was taking, but he seemed to have lost control and was just doing whatever he could get his hands on. He became extremely paranoid and delusional, got into a lot of conspiracy theories involving illuminati, freemasonry, numerology, etc. He'd show me these notebooks full of gibberish and find bizarre connections between numbers he perceived as significant and all sorts of other hokum. He once told me the movie Independence Day was real and couldn't be convinced otherwise, then acted like I was the one who didn't know what was "really going on". He'd send me screenshots from an Amazon order where he'd circled numbers in the order ID # and then found the same series of numbers on some other random website, which was clearly just a coincidence and had no actual meaning. It didn't help that he began hanging out with other friends who were also into conspiracy theories and other quasi-religious ideologies.

I really wanted to help him but it got to the point where we couldn't have a normal conversation, it'd inevitably devolve into some random correlation between completely unrelated topics. He did come around a bit after a few months and I've never brought up how he was behaving for those months, but he's never really been the same since. I don't know if he's taken any psychedelics since then, I think he just smokes and drinks now, but I haven't seen him for a while. It's sad because he's an intelligent person and I feel like somewhere deep down he must know he was acting crazy, but he's never talked about it so I haven't asked.
 
There was this guy across the street from my house the other day and he was all yelling and shit... it looked like he was talking to someone... like he was about to fight someone... but ther was nobody ther...

i wanted to walk up to him to see what was up but i didnt wanna get stabbed or something lol... he had to have been on something... i dont think he was a skizo or something cuz i hadent seen him around before... and he was ther for a while and then he eventually just stopped and walked away...

im always so curious when i see something like that... like... what was going on in ther minds??? he passed by a couple times after that incident and i feel like walkng up to him and just asking him but he seems like a crazy lol

it reminded me so much about my first shroom experience because when i had that experience i was also across the street from my house around the area that he was at... and i also had a horrible experience... crazy how it ended up like that... that was another reason why i felt like i wanted to ask him what happened
 
Countless. Don't get me wrong, I love psychedelics or more specifically I love DMT. Still, it doesn't matter whether or not someone had an underlying illness or whatever crap the psychedelics advocates try to tell us. What I do know is that my best friend would NOT have had 3 suicide attempts within half a year if it hadn't been for psychedelics. God am I glad that stupid fuck couldn't pull it off. <3

Psychotic breaks can be induced by psychedelics and many who have experienced their first episode like that might otherwise never have been diagnosed. A lot of it may be due to lacking preparation, bad set and setting etc.

Dissociatives can be just as bad in this respect and so can any other experience that is comparably stressful (e.g. prolonged trouble adjusting socially which can again be blamed on latent illness or as reaction to stressful events like loss of a family member, a separation etc). Still, whichever way you look at it, psychotic breaks happen on psychedelic and not rarely so. Most people I know who've had theirs triggered by psychedelics have never had another episode after that. Some are less lucky, but it's highly probable the latter would have had one sooner or later anyway. I have myself become psychotic during psychedelic experiences (only one time out of hundreds though).
 
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myself, actually.

dosed some 2c-b and decided that going to see transformers in 3d was an awesome idea. ate way too much, and was already starting to come up while the previews were showing. I tried desperately to let my SO know that I was beginning to loose control. I remember him taking me out in the hall and asking me why I needed "air". I smiled, and tried explaining that this was WAY too much, as the walls were melting behind him and I was seeing double. him not thinking anything was wrong (as I had taken this substance at this dose before and was totally fine, the difference here is that we were outside the first time, not confined to a dark theater) took me back inside the theater to watch the movie. for those of you who don't know, transformers is a 2 and a half hour long movie. it was a 2 and a half hour hell for me. I remember hallucinating that my SO threw up all over the place and I was too out of it to help him. I can remember thinking to myself that this was the end, the lights were going to click on and I'd be sitting there unresponsive and I'd never come back. one thing I did learn from this is that, being stripped from your senses, sitting in a dark, trippy as FUCK room, you really learn what the hell your made of. also, some substances aren't supposed to be used at high doses as 'fun drugs to fuck around with.' by the time the lights actually did click on, I was in tears and didn't believe that it was real, that I was getting to finally go home.

the day after, I still didn't believe that I was actually home, that I had gotten out of that prison. and for the following weeks I had trouble with figuring out what was real, and what was still lingering from that trip. I still haven't gone back to a movie theater, and just typing this up brings a flood of weird feelings to the surface. I actually haven't even touched my headstash of what was left over 2c-b from that night, and this was all the way back in November of last year. shit got weird right quick, not saying I won't ever touch the stuff again, I actually wanna plan a trip sometime soon, but sometimes its better to treat these substances with respect.
 
If you wanna count Weed/THC as a psychedelic then yeah I have a friend who hit an intense bong and has never been the same. They threw 90 x 2mg Ativans at him and sent him back home. He came here and was diagnosed with Cannabis Induced psychosis. He was hearing voices and such. Was really depressing for me.

I know a fella who ate a shitload of tabs and I believe got HPPD due to the visual disturbances he tells me about. His mannerisms are also quite off as he displays anti-social behaviour. He told me once when I was tripping on a tab that he's not one who should even be smoking weed. He gets too deep and it gives him a mindfuck. He still does drugs like coke, weed and god knows what else. He's definitely lost.
 
I know a fella who ate a shitload of tabs and I believe got HPPD due to the visual disturbances he tells me about. His mannerisms are also quite off as he displays anti-social behaviour. He told me once when I was tripping on a tab that he's not one who should even be smoking weed. He gets too deep and it gives him a mindfuck. He still does drugs like coke, weed and god knows what else. He's definitely lost.
When you say antisocial you don't mean lack of impulse control and whatever else is attributed to the antisocial personality disorder, but plain withdrawing himself from friends and family? The latter would be textbook psychosis and that's all that sounds like to me. HPPD my ass. ;D

Oh and you wouldn't believe how quickly some people with schizophrenia pull themselves back up once they lay off the drugs.
 
I've always believed that "normal" sober society was crazy and people who used psychedelics were the sane ones.

I guess being sane in an insane world seems crazy to the insane. The fact is the lunatics run the asylum and the sane ones are locked in the asylum.

A hard pill to swallow, indeed.
 
I went schizo a while back, i still don't feel 100% right in the head after using 2c-e back to back for a month straight.
 
i understand that when people go overboard with psychedelics they have these amazing realizations or some major epiphanies like they found the meaning to life or they figured out how the universe works or something like that...

to anyone who has had an experience like that, what types of crazy realizations did you come to? and how long did you actually believe in those thoughts before you realized it was just the drug that made you think those things? or do you still believe in those thoughts long after using psychedelics?
 
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I have known a few whose mental issues came to the surface through psychadelic usage. The one I feel somewhat guilty about was when I was a teen and visiting the States. I had bought a Page of "ChillPill" blotter. I had a couple of strips left and at a party in suburban New Jersey gave the rest of the tabs away

This kid, Patrick, decided to ride his bike a couple of kilometers to a petrol station to but cigarettes. When he hadnt returned by daybreak people began getting paranoid. Finally we decided to go out and look for the 3 missing teens. I happened to be the one opening the door and like a milimeter from my face was Patrick, his bike in a pretzel behind him.

He then began saying he was Jesus, blessing me, then others. He never recovered to my knowledge. Years later I ran into him in a county jail. He had been living in a Group Home for mental patients and shoved a pen halfway into the thigh of a housemate. Never saw him again though Im sure things didnt go well for him.
 
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